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Mitsubishi Outlander Seats

I am looking at leasing a new vehicle and after much research the Outlander is one of the ones I like. After checking it out there are a couple of areas of concern, one being the comfort of the 2nd row seating (I would not go for the 3rd row).
I have not been able to find any info in the forums. Can anyone comment on their comfort during a long drive of over 4 hours?
Thank you.
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  • toomanyfumestoomanyfumes S.E. Wisconsin Posts: 894
    I haven't sat in mine for too long of a time, but there seems to be a lot of room back there. They adjust fore and aft, and also recline. Leg and head room is pretty good, but this is a fairly narrow vehicle, so if you carry three people back there, it could be pretty tight.
  • Thanks for the info 'toomanyfumes', but I was more concerned about the comfort of the seat itself (is it to hard or to soft?). I find the leg and head room is very good and I know that 3 people in the back would be crowded depending on their size. My kids complain that my 4Runner's seats do not recline so they will like that in the Outlander.
  • dodo2dodo2 Posts: 496
    I haven't sat back there for long drives, but my wife did and she didn't complain. This doesn't mean much to you I guess because this is a personal thing.
    I find them firm, but comfortable. One good thing about the backrest is that it's high enough (for me at least - 5' 7") to support the back. I sat in the 2nd row in a 07 CRV and I found the backrest too low, but just enough to make them uncomfortable for me.
  • All information is good (I never gave any thought to the height difference between myself and my kids). I'll check that out.
    The other thing I was concerned about was noise from the freeway during long trips. The dealer I use is quite a distance from the freeway and I haven't driven it there. Any comments?
  • toomanyfumestoomanyfumes S.E. Wisconsin Posts: 894
    I haven't driven many other new crossovers but I think the Outlander is a good highway vehicle. It's not dead quiet inside, but the engine is quiet enough and makes good power, and the handling is confident. The suspension and seats are on the firm side, but I like that in a vehicle.
  • batman47batman47 Posts: 606
    Can the rear seats in the Outlander temporarily be removed? Is it an easy job? Before I buy this car I would like to have some says of people that own one.
  • 20vcq20vcq Posts: 82
    Pretty good actually. I n=know they feel firm but with the adjustable back and slider they are conducive to long travel periods and for two adults make for easy conversations etc. The third row seat I would like to simply remove as useless weight but the remaining holes in the carpet etc look tacky. We spent a week and 4000 km on the road and found this to be a sweet ride - not up to my Audi's but for what it is and the price - really fine car / truck? :)
  • 20vcq20vcq Posts: 82
    I am never going to use my third row seat so if anyone wants it make me an offer in exchange for your floor filler pieces and carpet..? It is just more weight than I need. I don't know what to do about the seat belts though - I haven't examined the mounting etc yet.
  • dodo2dodo2 Posts: 496
    Should be some clips on each side to keep them out of the way when not in use.
  • 20vcq20vcq Posts: 82
    Yeah there are - what I meant was if someone wanted the seats I was unsure how to remove and fill the spaces left. But thanks.
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,012
    I bought a 7 passenger minivan in '98 and promptly threw the 2nd row bench away - couldn't find anyone who wanted it, plus shipping would have been expensive anyway. The van rear seat slides on tracks so I do use the extra seatbelts now and then, but they usually hang down out of the way and don't rattle. I suspect you could unbolt them and plug the holes with another bolt.

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  • 20vcq - while away for the week how did you find the road noise? I'm pretty much down to the Outlander and the Santa Fe. I tested the SF yesterday and found it to be very quite whereas I thought the Outlander was a bit noisier (but I have not taken either on the freeway and it is hard to tell by driving on city roads). And by road noise I mean compared to other SUV's. It seems my 2003 4Runner is comparible to the Outlander, which is acceptable but not great.
  • 20vcq20vcq Posts: 82
    Yeah - the Santa Fe was quieter than the Mitsu by a good margin. But the dynamics of the Santa fe suspension left us wanting. Heavy lean - dive on hard breaking and the seats' lack of support - neither my wife or I could get comfortable in the non adjustable passenger seat for more than 1/2 hr - after than we were shifting form cheek to cheek. In the driver seat I found myself driving with my elbow on my knee in boredom just like the Higlander and the other little one.
    We hadn't even considered a Mitsu when we started to look as we didn't even know they sold them in BC. (two years ago on Vancouver Island). I was familiar with the Evo and its rep.
    We compared the Subaru and would rate the handling of the Subaru as a little better but two things got in its way - one the lack of space dictated by the old platform and secondly I wont wear a Tilly Hat for anyone even under a giant sun roof!
    The Subaru dynamic all wheel drive like the Audi Quattro system is far superior to the Mitsui on demand sort of system if that is a major factor for you. A difference you wont notice unless you drive at nine tenths in very wet conditions or on very sandy roads.
    No the Mitsu is a great value and way better than anything Toyota can offer in the price range even with a little higher road noise. By the way as to that - I have always run 4 studded snow tires on my Audis and have a set of 16's all set for the Outlander - talk about noise test! But then maybe that is the reason for the Fosgate booming sound system!?:) For a little background - my other cars are Audi Quattros since 1984 and still keep my '90 Audi Coupe in the garage. That is my comparison baseline.
  • batman47batman47 Posts: 606
    Thank you very much mate. I think now I can proceed with my research on finding the best selling price from dealer in my area.
  • batman47batman47 Posts: 606
    How can I find out that my dealer is not offering me a 2007 Outlander instead of a 2008 Outlander? Can I identify something in the car itself that is telling me this is 2008 model? or Shall I trust in the dealer words?
  • batman47batman47 Posts: 606
    After a lot of conversation with a dealer I was given a price of $27,300 (Invoice $27,130) for a 2008 Outlander with P5 and P2 packages included. The dealer said this: “May I ask you where you coming from? So I can punch in the right sales tax % for you, and give you the total sells price” I live in Menlo Park (CA) area so why is the dealer asking me this type of question? I remember asking the dealer to confirm that it will not be any hidden costs when I will travel to the dealership to make the deal. The dealer just kept silent. Is the price reasonable or I could bargain for $500 price drop?
  • dodo2dodo2 Posts: 496
    The door panels will tell you if it's a 2007 or 2008 model. The upper door panels in the 2008 models (all trims), have the same texture/pattern as the upper dashboard where the 2007 models have plain/mate plastic upper door panels.
  • In addition to the door panels, the most obvious thing is the key fob. The 2007 key fob is shaped like a card (just flat and rectangular), while the 2008 key fob is like a candy bar (thicker and skinnier). The photo of the key fob on Mitsubishi website is from the 2007 model.

    Also FYI, I live in Sunnyvale, CA and I went to Capitol Mitsubishi in San Jose to purchase my 2008 XLS with all three packages. I paid $100 UNDER invoice. So I think you can bargain a little more.
  • I live just outside Vancouver, BC. The Subaru dealership is to far away to consider any of their vehicles as it would be to much bother for maintenance. Which year Santa Fe did you test, I ask because of your comment regarding the non adjustable passenger seat? I am looking at the 2008 Limited AWD which has 4 way power passenger seat. In my short test drive I found the drivers seat comfortable. From other forums it appears they improved in many areas with the new design in 2007.
    I am not a hard driver so I haven't noticed a lean while cornering. However, I will try to check that out as it could be a problem while travelling to go skiing.
    Also, which year Outlander do you have?
    I started out looking at the Outlander and the Santa Fe was a late contender for me. Each have their advantages over the other but I think, for my type/style of driving, that I would be happy with either one. The main reason I am leaning towards the SF is I am not that confident in the Mitsubishi dealership. Their knowledge is not the best and their place of business is quite run down so I worry that they may go out of business. If that happened it would be another long drive for maintenance.
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