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Older Camry Maintenance and Repair

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  • Hi Folks!
    I have Camry 2000 4 Cyl. The car has been well maintained - Oil change every 3K Miles. Mileage has been about 75K however the timing belt has not been changed.

    Today while driving on Freeway at 60MPH, the engine rattled, smoked and then more rattle and more smoke. Engine lost complete power. Managed to Pull over on the side and got it towed. The tow truck driver took a quick look and stated the shaft (rod?) has pierced the oil pan and lots of oil was leaking.

    a) What would cause this kind of catastrophic eng. failure? ( the roads were clean, I did not hit anything on the road.) Would timing belt breakage cause this?
    b)Would this kind of failure be covered under engine / power train warranty from Toyota?
    c) What would be needed to replace the engine?
    d) typical cost of engine repair: parts and labor?
    e) Would this be covered by insurance?
    f) If not repair, then ??

    Any inputs are very much appreciated.
  • kiawahkiawah Posts: 3,666
    Uggh, sorry to hear of your situation.

    We should be a little cautious here of knowing exactly what the problem is. I have no idea what 'shaft' he might be talking about. A 'rod', if it is a connecting rod, is indeed a major problem. A connecting rod connects the piston (which goes up and down), to the crankshaft, (which which turns around and around). If a rod breaks then the one piston stops moving, and the engine trys to run on 3 of the 4 pistons. Depending upon where a connecting rod broke, the piece that is still connected to the crankshaft can spin around (since the crankshaft is still turning), and starts poking things. It can scracth a bunch of stuff up, send metal parts flying around, and poke thru the bottom oil pan draining your oil and causing other engine failure. It's a major heart attack!

    This would not be covered under insurance.

    This would be covered under warrranty (or extended warranty), if you were withing the mileage and #years, which you are not. If you have had all of the maintenance done at the dealership you might try asking if Toyota would pick up a portion of the cost, it's a very long shot but worth a try to ask. This is (most likely) a multiple thousands of dollars fix (if it really was a connecting rod, and it really did break thru the exterior of the engine).

    If the engine continued to try and run after this problem, then your timing belt is not the cause. If the belt broke, then the engine would die immediately. Also if the belt broke, you would potentially bend valves not break a crank. I don't think the timing belt had anything to do with causing your problem.

    I think your options will be to junk the vehicle, or pay to have a replacement engine put into it.
  • Ive had problems getting it to snap on too. Should be no leak problems, but more coolant fumes will get into the engine compartment if not tight. But a radiator type cap will cause you bigger problems, overheat, leaking water, if not on correctly.

    Misread the part.
  • Unbelievable.

    Check the tightness on the oil drain bolt, or see if it is still there before you take it back to the oil change place. The oil could have been slowly leaking out or suddenly drained out, and in that case, engine failure is only minutes away. A disassembling of the engine could reveal more light on the way it failed. The oil filter loose, the oil pump failed.
  • kiawahkiawah Posts: 3,666
    rearwheeldrive,

    I think you misread his post. He didn't indicate that he recently had an oil change which caused the engine problem. He indicated that he has always had oil changes done on scheduled time.
  • Hi Kiawah / RWD;

    Thanks for reply. This is was not recent oil change issue. hi Kiawah, I could not believe it either, but during the tow when the car was lifted up what appeared to me was something like end of the piston , however I am no engine expert.

    I am wondering If it is worth fixing - replacing the engine or would I need to junk the car? I am not sure what else could have been damaged with the engine block with this kind of a damage - transmission, electronics?
  • kiawahkiawah Posts: 3,666
    It is most likely just the bottom end of the engine.
  • rassumrassum Posts: 2
    We just had the motor mounts replaced on our 1996 Toyota Camry. The car ran fine for about 30 miles but now it stalls immediately after putting it into drive. We are having it towed to our mechanic. It seems like a big coincidence that the car started having trouble after the motor mount work. Before this, we had no problems with the car. Our mechanic recommended that the motor mounts be replaced as preventive maintenance.

    Do you have any ideas on how replacing the motor mounts could cause the car to stall when putting it in drive? My son says the engine shakes after it stalls.

    Thanks.
    Sandy
  • 210delray210delray Posts: 4,722
    Replacing the engine mounts shouldn't affect the performance of the engine, but I'd surmise your mechanic may have forgotten to reconnect a wire, line, or hose somewhere. I'd take it back and complain -- the fix should be on his dime.
  • sks3266sks3266 Posts: 5
    Purch. 96 Toyota Camry (2.2L) from a friend - water pump had seized & shredded timing belt. Replaced both as well as plugs & wires. Bottom end is fine. Checked upper end of engine, had lots of build up on tops of pistons, etc. - cleaned all. Resurfaced valves & seats, etc. Have it all back together - getting fuel, but only 1 or 2 sparks on first crank (with #1 plug out to test), then no fire at all on subsequent cranking. Can let it set for a day, then get same response. Tried replacing distributor, (was told it could be the problem) - get same results.

    Have been told it could be crank sensor or the "module". Tested crank sensor & module - both test good. Any other suggestions/testing/troubleshooting anyone can suggest would be greatly appreciated!

    Thanks!
    Dave
  • ri2bri2b Posts: 2
    When cold shifting from 2nd to 3rd is delayed. Must rev above 2900 rpm to shift. After 1st shift or 3/4 mile all ok and shifting in all gears perfect. Any advise?
  • mcdawggmcdawgg Posts: 1,666
    Normal. This is done to warm up the car faster to improve emissions.
  • ri2bri2b Posts: 2
    Thanks mcdawqq. It sure is an irritating thing toyota did to improve emmisions. It's a prefect car except for this one "problem". It only has 46 k miles on it.
  • mcdawggmcdawgg Posts: 1,666
    I think other manufactures do this now. It really only lasts a very short time. Or just get a manual tranny, like I did!
  • c5t4rc5t4r Posts: 13
    I just had my windshield replaced. The seal at the cowl was pretty rotten already, but with the windshield replacement even more of it came apart. The shop offered to replace it for free if I could bring them the part. When I did a parts lookup I can't find a seal only, it looks like you have to buy the entire cowl grille piece (a left and right side), which is between 150-200 from what I can tell.

    Is this really all one piece or can you buy the seal separately?

    Thanks!
  • 1996 Camry Motor Mounts

    Is yours a four cylinder? Four's are easy to change, The mount on the front on the block, comes right out. Also there is another mount on the topside, but easy to change. It's like changing your Air Filter. The mechanic would only need to remove the mount itself.
  • I know its not an oil change but it could be the bolt for the oil change is not there. If it is then the failure is inside, oil pump or oil filter clogged, an internal failure of some part in the oil system.

    At any rate the Toyotal engine swap for that car would be the easiest way to get it back on the road. First I would find out if this engine has some bad history the 2002 Camry has a different engine design better design but gonna be harder to find at a salvage yard.

    I swapped another Corolla engine into my 87 Corolla. I never took any parts off the "new" block, I just bolted the engine in and put on new water pump and the old manifolds. I didn't buy one gasket. The new engine had 79K miles compared to my old engine with 250K.

    A good Toyota shop will keep the parts off your old engine to make sure it works with a new engine. This engine could be a re-manufactured block with cylinder head attached, and no valve cover, or simply one pulled out of a wrecked, or older Camry.

    Your four cylinder is a 5S used in 1996-2001. Plenty of these in salvage yards. I paid $150 for my salvage engine. It was stripped of everything and only included the block, heads, valve cover, flywheel, and crankshaft pulley.
  • No spark on 2.2

    Your coil should be on the fender well, it needs to have some volts on the small wires. Leave the key on for a few seconds and check the voltage there. The ignitor is under the coil, and it could be bad.They go bad if key is left on for 20 minutes or so.

    Distributor has some circuits but I would have to check a wire diagram to see how it is wired.
  • heisman98heisman98 Posts: 5
    I have a 1994 Camry and while I am driving the A/C light starts to blink and it stops blowing cold air. I have already had the freon and compressor checked. It blows very cold while it is working.
    I have replaced the clutch relay under the hood on the drivers side but that has not fixed the problem. Is there another realy somewhere that I should be checking or change?
    The only way I can get the A/C to work again is to pull over and turn the car off and on again.
  • kiawahkiawah Posts: 3,666
    Next time this happens and the light blinks, pull over without stopping the engine, and indicate whether the compressor clutch is engaged and the compressor is turning....or whether the compressor clutch is un-engaged and the compressor is not turning.

    You should look at it beforehand, to understand the difference. Run the engine with the a/c turned off to see how it looks, and then have someone turn the a/c on so you see the clutch engage and the compressor turns.

    Can you also indicate whether the a/c compressor cycles on and off by itself, when the engine is running at about 2K rpm.
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