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Saturn Outlook Transmission Problems

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  • Looks like it is the 3-5-Reverse clutch wave plate. I think there is a bulletin on that one. Anyway, I hope they do a good job of cleaning, flushing, and replacing all damaged parts. Time will tell...
  • Test drove truck and all seems to be fine as of right now....i will keep my fingers crossed as well as my toes and everything else....The dealership has been great with everything and I do appreciate all that they have done....hopefully GM will get involved some how some way and help out with all these issues.....wish me luck!!!!
  • So the dealer has had my truck for 4 days and they still havent removed the transmission. Day 1 they told me they thought it was the 3-5-R plate, three days later they explain that they wont actualy know until next week. Looks like this is going to be a while. At least they got me a loaner!
  • Okay, day 7 and they got the tranny open and decided to replace parts instead of installing a new transmission. Parts on order will take 3 days so probably wont be done till late next week.
  • This is day 10 and our service advisor has told us they have went through three rebuild kits for our Outlook. Seems as though when they get it put back together something else in the transmission doesn't work. I don't understand why they just don't put in a new transmission. The long and the short of it, I just hope they get the car working correctly. I have a rental so no rush there.
  • redleg83redleg83 Posts: 5
    I feel your pain. We too bought a new 2007 Outlook. In our 5 years of ownership the vehicle has been in the shop countless times for many of the same reasons you have listed. Latest visit was two weeks ago - now it appears we'll be dropping it off tonight for power steering issues...again. Although the Dealerships have supported us, and while my spouse has enjoyed the roominess, look...we're finally fed up -- we simply are done with this SUV. And for the "GMC" ease droppers....we looked at replacing the Saturn with a 2012 Enclave...but have noted (thx to the internet) that the problems inherent in the Saturn are continued in the Enclave. Our love affair with our Saturn (and GM) is soon to end...just wish you all could have made the car as reliable as my 2002 GMC 2500HD. Next vehicle will be either a Toyota or a BMW. :sick:
  • Day 16 in the shop and supposively they will have it done tomorrow, Ill believe it when im in the drivers seat. We have been given a rental but its tight in a Chevy Malibu with a rear facing and front facing car seat in the back!
  • We got our Outlook back and we were told they put in three rebuild its into this transmission. The car seems to run great. My wife really likes her Outlook. I'm just concerned about the many, many things that have gone wrong with her car. I am thankful that GM has come through each time and honored the warranty,,,,,,,,it just gives one pause when you consider the amount of repairs we've had and only have 63 thousand and change on the car.
  • gmcustsvcsarahgmcustsvcsarah Posts: 1,964
    I'm glad to hear that you've gotten your Outlook back and that it's running well! I hope that this keeps you and your wife going for many more miles; if something should come up, please let us know.
    Sarah
    GM Customer Service
  • Well Sarah maybe you can help me, I have been fighting with GM over my Outlook for a while. The power steering unit went out a few months ago of course when I did not have the money to fix it, the GM dealer near me explained that it was not covered under warranty, but they had recieved numerous bulletins on the issue. My guess was that the issue had not caused enough deaths yet. Now I have a check engine light, the traction control turns on and off constantly, my front end makes noise when turning, basically the car is a piece of crap and from what I am reading I am not the only one with these problems. I have a mechanic schedueled to work on it tomorrow hopefully it don't break the bank but it probably will. Oh yeah one more thing the power train warranty is still valid.

    Thank you
    Joey
  • gmcustsvcsarahgmcustsvcsarah Posts: 1,964
    Thank you for getting in touch, Joey.
    We'd be happy to work with you on this. I see you're going in tomorrow to see a mechanic. Just to clarify, is this with one of our service departments?

    To assist further (including calling your dealership), we would like to get a Service Request set up for you in our database. Please email us with more information, including your name and Edmunds username, phone and address, the last 8 digits of your vehicle's VIN and current mileage, and the name of your involved dealership. My coworker Christina, who answers inbound email from the forum will advise you further.

    Best,
    Sarah
    GM Customer Service
  • Hi Sarah,

    I have a 2007 outlook with 74,000 miles. Just had it in the shop last week 2 times and ended up with a rebuilt tranny and new timing chain. Was running fine until sunday, (i just got it back on friday) the check engine light appeared again and again I had trouble speeding up while driving. What is going on with this vehicle? I dropped it off again at the shop this evening and they said they will keep it longer to figure this out. luckily they were able to give me a loner car to drive. How long does a rebuilt tranny last?? this seems to be a recurring problem, saturn needs recalls and I think new tranny, not rebuilt!! If this isnt easily resolved I will never again buy another GM product. I have always had them, this will be a hard thing to do.

    :sick: :sick: :cry:

    Busiestmom
  • gmcustsvcsarahgmcustsvcsarah Posts: 1,964
    Busiestmom,

    I'm so sorry to read that you've had to go back to the shop so soon after having your transmission rebuilt (just making sure - your Saturn's being serviced at one of our dealerships, right?). If you would like to have a Service Request set up so that we can follow up with your dealership on this, please send us an email to socialmedia@gm.com with more information (include your name/Edmunds username, phone and address, the last 8 digits of your VIN and approximate mileage, and the name of your dealership).

    Best,
    Sarah
    GM Customer Service
  • I noticed GM reps reply on here.So i would like to voice my aggrevations with GM!I purchased late 2007 a tahoe in which we kept and drove aprox 65k miles and after some electrical problems and horrible gas mileage and other problems we decided to trade.We found a 2008 saturn outlook wife loved it.The vehicle had aprox 29k on it when we purchased it, i felt this vehicle had been out a couple of years maybe the bugs were worked out seeing there was plenty in the tahoe. WRONG we have 72000 on it and its still under warranty but come on in 40k miles it been to the shop 5 times 2 times for headlights (THE SECOND TIME GM had issued the recall) air bags 2 times and how wonderful my sick wife and 4 year old coming home from doctor last night transmission goes out.She is only an hour and 15 mins away. Thanks to mother in laws toyota she had a ride home and saturn picked the car up and took to dealer which is close to where she was over an hour from where we live!Myself i just had major back surgery and at this point was pretty upset seeing i couldnt do much about the situation and this is our family car!Called the dealer this morning he said my transmission guy isnt here today but we will look at it as soon as possible.Mean while we are lucky enough to have family that loaned us a car so she could come home.The dealer did say he drove the car at the dealership and it seemed ok i bet the wrecker driver wished it would have drove so he didnt have to winch it on the rollback.Long story short one headache to another and hey my GM family wonder why my daily driver is a tacoma 230k no breakdowns just regular maint. I left GM because of dealers and quality the idea that i have to buy GM.Maybe the dealers and bean counters didnt suffer enough thru the bad years or before gov. bailout to put customerservice quality and the people who made them who they WERE first.
  • gmcustsvcsarahgmcustsvcsarah Posts: 1,964
    Good morning saturnreject,

    After reading your post, I can understand why you are dissatisfied. Not only have you encountered concerns with your Saturn, but they came at a time when there were some medical situations going on (I hope you're recovering well from your recent surgery).

    If you would like to open a Service Request with us, which would allow us to interact with your dealership on the progress of the repair, please send us an email at one of the addresses in the bio section of my Edmunds profile (include your name/Edmunds username, phone and address, the last 8 digits of your VIN and approximate mileage, and the name of your dealership).

    All the best,
    Sarah
    GM Customer Service
  • Sarah thanks for responding it is being handled by cust. service and dealer states we will fix the car this is the issue i spend my hard earned money for my family to have reliable transportation in the amount of more than what alot of people in our area make in a year and we tend to keep our vehicles for many years. Pay them off and enjoy a few years before we are stuck with another rediculous price on another yes this vehicle will be repaired but if i cant trust it to be dependable the first 4 years how can i expect it tobe in tthe next 10 to give to one of my kids to beat around in.My first car was built the year i was born a 74 camaro then when i was old enough to drive it was givin to me and bingo learn to drive and work on and appreciate my car. These cars will never make it that long and as long as the attitude well we will fix it, the goal (IS NOT TO HAVE TO FIX IT),your service bays will stay packed and the customer losses will rise evenmore.It is sad my grandfather who passed away a few years ago was a plant manager for gm thru the late 70s and my father has retired from gm but the ethic of if you are gonna do something do the best you can and your goal shouldnt be comparing yourself to others your goal is to set the bar or maybe to many people that work for GM know dont love the cars they make and strive to be the best its just another job.Real vehicles arent made for profits they are crafted out of love for cars profits just tend to follow!
  • gmcustsvcsarahgmcustsvcsarah Posts: 1,964
    I certainly understand your point and have documented it in our databases. If you would please post an update once your vehicle is repaired, that would be great!
    All the best,
    Sarah
    GM Customer Service
  • kmp420kmp420 Posts: 7
    Hi Busiest Mom! I too am a busy Mom w/ 5 kids. Anyway, we purchased a 2007 Saturn Outlook this past fall. I am having the exact same problem. I had it in the shop two weeks ago to replace the Input Speed Sensor only to have it break down on me once again this week. They are now telling me I will likely have to replace my transmission. During a diagnostic test they found that I need to replace the 3-5 Reverse Clutch Plate. I am not a technician, but what I found alarming is that this is a common problem for several GM Models. (2008-2009 Buick Enclave, 2008-2009 Chevrolet Equinox, Malibu, 2009 Chevrolet traverse, 2007-2009 GMC Acadia, 2007-2009 Pontiac G6, 2008-2009 Pontiac torrent, 2007-2009 Saturn Aura, Outlook, and the 2008-2009 Saturn Vue). Unfortunately for us the 5year 100,000 mi power train warrantee expired LAST month. I am hoping and praying that GM and the dealership I am working with will help us on this because it is very likely that this was already a problem when we purchased the vehicle 6months ago. I had even brought it into them a couple of weeks after we purchased it because we noticed a very strong burning smell. The report I have that is stamped with the GM Authentic Technical Service Information states that "This condition may be caused by a broken 35R clutch wave plate allowing the apply piston to over-stroke, causing the piston to leak and causing loss of apply. This normally will not occur before approximately 20,000mi." This makes me wonder if the burning smell that hasn't gone away is related to the piston leak. We purchased the car through a GM authorized dealer and we had it towed to the same dealership in hopes that they can get this fixed and honor the warrantee. They are telling us that it could cost us close to $5,000 to rebuild or replace the transmission. It is difficult when you put your trust in a brand and have something this major happen. Our repair two weeks ago ran about $600 and now we are facing this. I hope you were able to get your issue resolved!
    KMP420
  • gmcustsvcgmcustsvc Posts: 4,055
    kmp420,
    I apologize for your frustrations and concerns. Have you spoke with GM Customer Assistance? Can you please email me directly with your VIN, current mileage, and involved dealer? I look forward to hearing from you further.
    Christina
    GM Customer Service
  • kmp420kmp420 Posts: 7
    Christina,
    How do I email you directly? I didn't see an email. I have all the information you requested.

    Thank you!
    KMP420
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