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Subaru Reliability

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  • p0926p0926 Posts: 4,423
    Well fortunately I'm perfectly happy with my XT and don't plan to replace it any time soon. Before I got the Forester I actually briefly considered getting a WRX wagon but with 2 large dogs, the cargo area just wasn't big enough. Plus the sloping rear window would have been covered in nose smears in no time :)

    -Frank
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Nose smears will cover whatever windows you have no matter what you get.

    Our dog is down to about 9 lbs, and we still get them on a full-sized van.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,269
    Sounds like a perfect candidate for a travel crate. :P
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    For long trips, that's what we do. The crate fits between the 2 kids in the 2nd row, so the dog can even watch the movie.

    His favorite is All Dogs Go to Heaven. ;)
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,269
    Hahaha... mine too. :blush:
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Juice, how about a cat-carrier! Since your dog wants to be a cat anyway!

    -mike
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    He just hissed. ;)
  • The short version. Had a 2000 and got a 2002 via LEMON LAW (check engine light always on and ran BAD.) I just traded in the replacement 2002 for a Honda.

    Only 50K on the 2002 Forester and a Wheel Bearing went, I had to replace an 02 Sensor also, and now (at 56K) the Clutch went. I was not gonna spend the $1200+ for a new clutch just two months after spending $400+ on a wheel bearing.

    I'm done with Subaru. I know others are happy, I guess I'm just unlucky..
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Sorry to hear that.

    They did change the wheel bearing design on the 2003 and later models. They moved to the sturdier design from the Legacy.

    To me an 02 sensor is a wear part. Bosch says they should be changed every 30k miles, though they sell them so I'm sure they have an interest in recommending short intervals for those.

    Good luck with the Honda, hopefully you'll have better luck.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Frank you will be due for a clutch around 80-100k miles. 100k is the average of when they start going, or at least customers start asking for it around there :)

    -mike
    Motorsports and Modifications Host
  • p0926p0926 Posts: 4,423
    The wheel bearing and clutch weren't covered by the drivetrain warranty?

    I've got 66k on my Forester and hopefully the clutch will last at least double that.

    -Frank
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Wheel bearings should be, but clutch, no. That's usually wear and tear.
  • p0926p0926 Posts: 4,423
    wear and tear Good point.

    Clutches wear out at significantly different rates depending on driving conditions (city vs highway) and driving habits (jack rabbit starts, slipping the clutch, etc). For instance, it's not uncommon to hear about a young "enthusiastic" driver needing a new clutch before 20k while others can go for more than 150k miles without replacing their clutch. In my case, I sold my Jeep with over 125k miles on the original clutch and fully expect to approach if not exceed that mark with the Forester :)

    -Frank
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Yep.

    I sold my Forester with nearly 90k miles and it was on the original clutch.

    A friend of mine had an Impreza 2.5RS, 2 years newer, and was on his 2nd clutch (an ACT model) within a couple of years. He abused it, though.

    AWD burnouts sure are cool but you gotta pay to play! :D
  • aathertonaatherton Posts: 617
    "... I sold my Forester with nearly 90k miles and it was on the original clutch. "

    Sold my Mazda truck with over 150k miles and original clutch, which had pulled 2000 lbs of boat and trailer every summer since 1991.
    Having been a passenger in many manual transmission cars in the past 50 years, I have noticed that very few people use the clutch in a way that will get the most life from it. They are not abusive, but they just don't know.
  • djensondjenson Posts: 2
    Do not get the fabric seats in the 2006-2008 model years. The fabric frays on the seams and even though the car is covered by warranty and they replaced the seat fabric once (with same stuff) the latest current offer is to do my 30000 mile service free. Get the leather and be fore warned the light beige color is a bear to keep clean! I have been dealing with both the dealership and Subaru since August over this problem and I am close to just trading in and going back to a Ford. Ford's I have had in the past always had great warranty coverage for any problem.
    Love the car on ice & snow, so far no other problems but the interior fabric.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Ford refused to replace windshield seals on my 1991 Escort GT. My fuel tank opening developed rust and all they could offer me was free undercoating (they didn't even apply it in that area).

    Both happened under warranty.

    Seats are a wear item, to be honest I'm surprised they even replaced the covers for you the first time.

    Another thing - the X model gets different fabric than the upper trim lines. Just check that out before you decide.

    I wouldn't count on the warranty to fix any of that stuff, from any make to be honest.
  • Regarding my original post about the clutch. The Forester was my wifes, but she had a Toyota Tercel and a Nissan Sentra before that and had over 120K on each and the clutch was fine.

    Like I said, perhaps are Subaru Kharma was bad or something because I know others have great luck with them.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,269
    That is surprising, to me, about the cloth interior. If true and widespread, it would certainly be a step backwards considering 220K miles on my '96 Outback with no problems at all with the cloth. But, if I did have problems with it during the warranty period, you can bet I would hold the manufacturer liable. Failed stitching over that time frame is unacceptable and is certainly a defect. Even ingress and egress every few miles over 30,000 should not cause failure due to wear.

    That said, I had no problems with the cloth on either of my newer Outbacks (07 and 08) with about 7500 miles put on each.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Thing is, they change fabrics used often, some times in just one or two years.

    My 98 had a thick woven fabric that turned out to be very durable, but didn't feel soft, like the fabric on the higher trim line (S models). But that softer velvet-textured fabric was less durable, as a trade-off.

    paisan pointed out in another thread that lark6 used to rest his elbow on the window sill and the fabric there had some wear.
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