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Subaru Reliability



  • gdocgdoc Posts: 22
    No question though...base model CRV has better fit and finish than base Forester. It's just the power problem in both vehicles. Put the Acura TSX 2.4L 200hp engine into the CRV and I might have considered it strongly.
  • gdocgdoc Posts: 22
    My Forester XT was in for service for 2 days. They said they "tightened" everything up with both doors and tried to secure the cargo cover latch. I could tell when I closed the doors, it had a much more uniform solid feel. Interestingly, the loaner base forester had the rattling door thing way worse than mine. Overall, I drove the over many surfaces and it seems to be gone. I must say, I was so happy to get my XT with Nav back. What a difference, from the engine to the features...and stereo, it's like it's a totally different ride. In canada, the base goes for 25k, while the XT is over 37, so there should be a huge difference. Hopefully, the door rattling stays away. Anyone who is thinking about a Forester XT, should drive one! Besides the door thing, it is a blast to drive.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    So they fixed it? Cool.
  • gdocgdoc Posts: 22
    Tight as a drum! They had a list about a paragraph long of all the things the secured in the door. Very impressed with the service. Vehicle feels really solid and just love the ride without the rattles in the door. Even when I close the doors upfront there is a nice uniform 'thud'.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Kudos to that dealer, wish all of them were as good!
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,391
    Yes, and if you have a chance of it, would you mind sharing the notes that the service department put on the work order? It might be helpful for those of us who will soon be addressing that same problem. :D
  • gdocgdoc Posts: 22
    Will do. Sorry for the delay. Will get the report typed up from my invoice. Give me a few days. Have 2 new problems. When I am on the highway and there is a curve in the road and the surface is uneven there is a weird noise coming from the steering column. Also, weird buzzing noise with my right front speaker when stereo is loud. grrrr
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,391
    How loud is the volume when the buzz occurs? I will see if it happens in mine....
  • gdocgdoc Posts: 22
    Around 28 or so if I remember. It was loud, but the sound was clear and sounded good, except for the right buzzing noise. I'm guessing it was the speaker and surrounding casing. Let me know if you find the same.
  • gdocgdoc Posts: 22
    Here are the exact notes from my service invoice

    Incident confirmed on driver's side door noisyfrom inside while driving. By tapping the door trim by hand can be duplicated. Passenger door seems to be normal (this is wrong, as both doors were buzzing when driving over various surfaces)
    Visual check carried out and found no abnoram condition from all the internal door components. Shoptalk bullein No. ST-12-03-09 confirmed that securing bolts of window motor.


    Re-tighten all regulator bolts and other screws that can be seen; add insulation on plastic cover; applied door trim edges. R/Tested and problem is solved

    Lab-op:A900-331 S.T..1.7H, FC; OAX-25
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,391
    I could not duplicate the buzzing. I started at 28, scrolled through several radio stations (to play different music and intensities at that volume setting), then increased the setting to 30 and finally to 36. While there was some distortion at the last setting, I did not hear any buzzing from the speakers.

    Perhaps I should note that the car engine was off and the vehicle was stationary at the time of this testing.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,391
    Thanks; perhaps this will help when I take my car in on the 23rd. I have noticed that I have some loud rattles in the back now; I think I have isolated them to the rear seatback latch on the driver side and something inside both rear quarter panels. I can duplicate the quarter-panel rattles by closing the rear doors, but the rattle is not coming from the doors.
  • gdocgdoc Posts: 22
    I was driving on the highway and I did have a CD on (Queen) and the song had a lot of bottom end. Had to turn it down as the buzzing only happened during a few songs.
  • gdocgdoc Posts: 22
    For me it's the cargo cover. When it is extended to cover up items in the back, it rattles over every bump. When it is unlatched and the contents of the back or open to view, it rattles worse. I was thinking of putting some felt or something to help. I could get the rattling to happen just by using my fist and thumping on the door panel from the inside. Since they did the work, I hear nothing in the doors, however from the from dash I do hear some noises every so often. I must say i was in my friends 2009 toyota rav 4 and it had buzzing and rattling from multiple locations. XT forester drives amazing and it is a fast truck, just wish Subaru would bump up the luxury with more bolstered leather seats and less plastic materials for the trim. It would really be the class leader by a mile if the luxury was ramped up.
  • My 2009 Forester XT engine, I think main bearing, just failed. At 10,000 miles. The car was dropped off at the dealer at least 3 times, but the dealer never did any maintenance because the car was brought in for specific complaints of vibration and misc noises etc. Now the engine failure is outside of warranty. And they expect me to pay for at least engine installation and possibly turbo parts and labor. Does this seem right? Are there many failures of this type on these engines? Where can I obtain documentation of those failures? Thanks
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,391
    Outside of warranty? I don't see any way an '09 Forester with 10,000 miles could be out of warranty. Drivetrain components are covered for five years or 60,000 miles, and even the B2B warranty is three years or 36,000. Also, what do you mean by "never did any maintenance;" I am assuming oil was changed on regular intervals, yes?

    Please explain....
  • prigglypriggly Posts: 642
    How could the XT be outside of warranty at 10,000 miles??!

    XT turbo engine failure is a known issue for this vehicle affecting 2008-2009 models: n-08-09-models-31757/

    I don't know if the 2010 cars are involved but have been reluctant to buy an XT because of this issue.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Did you modify your engine in any way?

    They would have to have a valid reason for voiding the 5/60,000 powertrain warranty.

    If it's chipped or something, I could understand, but bone-stock no way, no how.
  • "... XT turbo engine failure is a known issue for this vehicle affecting 2008-2009 models..."

    He said he thought he had a main bearing failure. Perhaps he just assumed it the main bearing. A particular VIN range of the late 2008 and 2009 XT's (those manufactured between Tuesday 8 January and Saturday 5 April 2008) were failing because of disintegration of copper con rod bearing shells, as described in these links:

    "... FHI have identified the problem as abnormal wear on con rod big end bearings..." - - - n-08-09-models-31757/index5.html#post372840

    "... Turbo Engine Stop Sale checking Procedure.
    Engine Screening Procedure Two... A) If there are copper particles larger that 1 mm in the material residue, the engine is damaged.... It may be necessary to clean the particles to determine if they are copper. Copper is reddish in color..." - - - n-08-09-models-31757/index10.html#post381869
  • xwesx, thanks for your reply. That is part of this situation. My wife dropped off the car while I was comfortably at work thinking the dealer was doing maintenance and instead the dealer only worked on the specific trouble report of vibration or leaking tires etc. I am accustomed to and assumed the Subaru dealership service personnel would review the required maintenance and provide advice. I had purchased a service plan from the dealer in which every other oil change was free, including the first one. The oil was never changed.
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