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Lexus ES Starting Problems

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  • Upon the first visit to Lexus they replaced the starter push button. But it still happened. On the 2nd and 3rd visit they told me they can't duplicate the problem so they can't fix it. It happened again Labor Day weekend and I was going to bring it back a 4th time, but didn't. Since then it's been fine. Everyone I've spoken to says if they can't duplicate it, they can't fix it. My friend in southern NJ outside of Philadelphia has had it happen to her 2008 IS. I can't believe Lexus can't figure this out. I just don't believe them. This is happening all over the country to different years and models. Sorry I can't help you. But if I ever get it figured out/fixed, I'll post.
  • My brother has a friend that works for Sewell Lexus in Dallas, and so I called him and asked him what he thought the problem was. He suggested the starter and told us to hit it with something, and if it started then that's the problem. We did, and it started!
    We had an Expedition that has starter problems, and when it acted up it made a horrible noise! The Lexus doesn't do that, so this was a really confusing problem. But my brother's friend was so nice to help us out and listen when he didn't have to! We live in Germany, so we don't have a Lexus dealership to take it to.
    So if you can find the starter (our's is towards the top around the battery), take something that can reach it and give it a wack and see if that works. I'm sure this won't solve everyone's problem, but I hope it helps a few people!
  • About 50 plus years ago I had the same problem on a Studebaker. I carried a hammer with me and when it wouldn't start I gave the starter motor a whack. I finally took it to a garage and they said it was just the brushes. They sometimes hang up in their holder or get warn down to the point that the little springs can't push them against the armature. Replacing the brushes fixed my bug. That's a lot cheaper than replacing the starter motor.

    An even cheaper way is to carry a hammer.
  • I have a 2007 Lexus LS460. A few months ago I started having problems starting the car after sitting for about 2 hours. It starts fine when cold and fine when hot but when it partially cools down, it cranks through two cycles before it finally starts. It also seems to idle a little rough and sounds a little different. Lexus has replaced the fuel injectors once which helped for about 2 months. They now tell me they suspect the cause is the Costco gas I have been using. They say they have about 30 vehicles with the same problem and all have been burning Costco gas. Has anyone else experienced this problem?
  • C/S THAT THE CLOCK ON THE DASH WILL NOT COME ON SOMETIMES WHEN STARTING THE CAR. C/S THAT THE CLOCK WILL COME BACK ON AFTER SOME DRIVING. PLEASE INSPECT AND ADVISE. <

    INSPECT CONNECTOR E60- PIN 3 FOR ACCESSORY RELAY AND INCREASE PIN TENSION.REPAIR TO STARTER CUT CIRCUIT CORRECT VOLTAGE DROP TO ACCESSORY RELAY.
    52 Warranty Done

    C/S THAT THE STEREO WILL NOT COME ON SOMETIMES WHEN THE CAR IS STARTED. C/S THAT SHE LEAVE THE RADIO ON ALL THE TIME. C/S THAT THE STEREO CAME BACK ON BY ITESLF AFTER SOME DRIVING. PLEASE INSPECT AND ADVISE.

    REPAIR STARTING CIRCUIT TO CORRECT VOLTAGE DROP TO ACCESSORY RELAY.RADIO AND CLOCK AFFECTED BY SAME CIRCUIT
    53 Warranty Done

    C/S THAT THE VEHICLE WILL NOT START SOMETIMES. C/S THAT THE ENGINE WILL NOT TURN OVER. C/S THAT THE PROBLEM IS ITNERMITTENT AND HAS BEEN HERE BEFORE FOR THIS CONCERN. SEE HISTORY TECH 746. PLEASE INSPECT AND ADVISE. ADVISOR WAS ABLE TO START THE VEHICLE. INSPECT WIRE HARNESS AND CONNECTORS IN STARTING SYSTEM,CHECKED CONNECTOR E58-PIN 6 @ MAIN BODY ECU,CONNECTOR B12-PIN 63/62ENGINE ECU,CONECTOR B36-PIN 4@NEUTRAL SAFETY SWITCH,FOUND LOOSE CONNECTION AT TERMINAL #3 IN RELAY BLOCK FOR STARTER CUT RELAY. INCREASE PIN TENSION DURING INSPECTION FOR EACH
    54 Warranty Done

    BATTERY FAILED LOAD TEST DURING SERVICE

    REPLACE BATTERY T1 71 T2 73
  • Hello,

    sorry to bother you. i have been having an intermittent problem as well, where the car won't start ( no noise, pedal hard) then maybe some comes back (almost like a charging problem.) then if i leave it and come back later it starts fine. However, i also had the check engine light come on and to check the VSC. I am wondering if you had these same symptons? this happened once 3 weeks ago then car perfect until last night. I brought car to local mechanic (car started fine after having issues again this morning) but check engine light on. I gave mechanic key, and charging system turns out to be fine and the check engine light is gone. Wondering if this short you mentioned is same thing?
  • This is from my repair order as to what Lexus found. There were basically loose connections. print it out and bring to Lexus. Lexus in Orlando told me this was the first time this happened at their dealership. I originally bought the car in NJ brand new 3 years ago. I know of two friends that have similar problems that live in NJ. Maybe it's cheap wiring.................

    "C/S THAT THE VEHICLE WILL NOT START SOMETIMES. C/S THAT THE
    ENGINE WILL NOT TURN OVER. C/S THAT THE PROBLEM IS ITNERMITTENT AND HAS BEEN HERE BEFORE FOR THIS CONCERN. SEE HISTORY TECH 746. PLEASE INSPECT AND ADVISE. ADVISOR WAS ABLE TO START THE VEHICLE. INSPECT WIRE HARNESS AND CONNECTORS IN STARTING SYSTEM,CHECKED CONNECTOR E58-PIN 6 @ MAIN BODY ECU,CONNECTOR B12-PIN 63/62ENGINE ECU,CONECTOR B36-PIN 4@NEUTRAL SAFETY SWITCH,FOUND LOOSE CONNECTION AT TERMINAL #3 IN RELAY BLOCK FOR STARTER CUT RELAY. INCREASE PIN TENSION DURING INSPECTION FOR EACH
    54 Warranty Done BATTERY FAILED LOAD TEST DURRING SERVICE REPLACE BATTERY T1 71 T2 73"
  • I have read all 30 of the posts...My 2002 ES 300 has 186k miles...no real problems and love my car. However, I have repeatedly had the "Starting problem" over the last year. We did replace the battery and that seemed to help for a while. Funny part is I can drive the car off and on all day no problem....then stop at the bank or gas station-you know less then 10 min and WHAM NO START! But when you go and jump the car it starts very quickly and no problem for several days. I have had both fuel sensors replaced (check engine light) but really this has been a good car considering all the milage I put on it. Put it in the shop twice to check for fuses, shorts and nothing found. So what's the next step to fixing this start problem>?
    (Keep in mind, 2002 is not a "push" to start - it is standard key start.
  • My problems were in the wiring harness. It was an intermittent problem and I had Lexus keep it until it duplicated finally. Have them do a "ring" I think they call it of the wiring harness. They said my car was all over the floor while they were trying to find the problem. They made good on it and once they found the problem and fixed it. Things have been fine. They also had to replace the battery. The car was only 2/12 years old and 28,000 m on it.

    Good luck.
  • 2002 ES 300 only 102k Miles on it. Had it for a year and no issues. Then 3 Weeks that starter went bad. Would hit it with a flashlight to get it to start. After 2 days of this and it just died. Had the starter replaced, ran fine for the past 3 weeks and now its doing it all over again. Only now, when I get it running it will die as soon as I idle at a stop sign or red light. There has got to be another reason for this
  • Unless Lexus or someone can duplicate it................in my personal opinion with what i went through with my car.............the wiring just in plain english...sucks. could be something loose there. and if they put in a new starter maybe the new starter has issues. where do they get these parts from? China?
  • The engine start some times later it may refuse to start again. Leave the car for a while it start. Now, for three weeks it refuse to start
  • rajivsrajivs Posts: 1
    I have a 2000 ES300. Today, when it was cold it started fine. I drove the car from its parking spot and moved it to the garage. I shut the engine and then tried to restart. It does not start. what could be the reason.
  • jlbenzeljlbenzel Posts: 1
    I have a 2007 ES350 & my 'not starting' problems started last April. It is now April again so this has been going on for a full year! I have had 6 episodes with the starter button not starting the car plus numerous times when I have been able to wiggle the button around & after several tries get it to start. This is very stressful, to say the least. I am afraid to go any where at night or very far away! I have an undependable car & and the dealer has not been able to find or fix the problem! It always starts for them! I now have a call into the manufacturer in Torrance, CA.
    & have also contacted an attorney regarding the California Lemon Law.
    I cannot go on like this. I must have a dependable car!
  • bz1_si_nybz1_si_ny Posts: 1
    edited June 2011
    Been having intermittent starting problem for past 6 months. 2005 ES330 50,000 miles. Regularly serviced, no mechanical problems. Standard key type - not newer wifi. On a random basis, car won't start when I turn key to start. I get a that awful "click,click...click" that sounds like the battery has discharged to a point just below that required to start car on a very cold day (except it's been a delightful 70 degrees the whole day).

    First thought - bad battery. Leave car overnight (after road service jump start and 30 minutes driving to charge battery). After road service, jump start, and battery charge, tried Theory1:
    1 - Simple theory: if BAD CELL in battery, car won't start in the morning when engine cold and I just go out and get another battery. Happens all the time. Outcome - car starts just fine lots of times for at least a week. Then, same thing happened. Tried Theory2:

    2 - Battery not really charged up enough after jump start and running car for 30 minutes insuring battery charge. Solution verification of charge: bubble indicator on battery reads ("I'm fully charge"). Buy a battery hotshot system (consisting of cables attached to a portable "jumper system", keep it in the trunk just in case it happened again (Costco for about $70).
    Outcome - Battery seems OK (says I'm OK) and car starts just fine lots of times for a few weeks. Then, going through a puddle after a rain storm, car looses all electrical power. But (fortunately), about 5-10 seconds later, comes back on (as if power grid re-initialized itself like after EMS revives a heart attack victim). You don't hear that this happened often, especially in a Lexus, probably because everyone was killed in the ensuing car accident which fortunately didn't happen to us. So. I the Tried Theory3:

    3 - Battery OK. Electrical system (battery cables; grounding, wiring, connectors; fuse seating in fuse panel, computer malfunction (heaven forbid)? Take car to dealer (who also provides fantastic service including free breakfasts, internet access while waiting for repairs, or loaner cars if needed). Make sure to have the cables cleaned, checked, reseated, or replaced.
    Outcome - dealer couldn't find problem, but cleaned and reconditioned cable, cable posts. Recommends buy new battery. I don't buy new battery (didn't seem correct solution).
    Car starts just fine lots of times after that for at least 2-3 months. Then, out of the blue, same thing happened re starting car. This time after short visit to a Mall. Clicks, clicks,..clicks, but car doesn't start. Battery reads "I'm fully charged", Hotshot indicator on portable reads "battery charge ok" on load test, Hotshot works fine. Car starts ok as if nothing happened.

    Current theory4: Starter motor and/or wiring harnesses at issue (although I would have thought the dealer looked at these items). Have begun carrying a hammer with me (if only I knew exactly where the solenoid to the starter motor was located like in my old 1969 Dodge Dart I had way back when, or even if there still is such a part and it works in my Lexus like the old starter motor worked). or Trade the #$$% thing in and get a new car (but with only 50,000 miles?).

    Anyone have similar experiences? Ideas? Thoughs? Did the problem really go away after starter motor issues repaired?
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    I have run into this identical problem many times in my life, with many different cars. It's the battery. It's shorting out internally, and although it will charge, show charged, and start the car fine most times, sometimes it will just totally discharge and go flat for no reason. Get a new battery, I'll bet your problem goes away.
  • _chuy_chuy Posts: 1
    My wife's ES350 just started making this funny clicking noise and the car wouldn't start on the first punch of the button. Push it again and it starts. Problem occurs randomly; so it can't be the battery, which is 4yrs old but not the problem based on the random occurrence.

    I haven't touched the car, but I'm thinking starter solenoid or starter relay. To narrow it down, I'm hoping to identify the problem by feeling each one when the problem occurs. The one that clicks should be the culprit.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Still think it's the battery, especially if it's 4 years old. Risk $100 and find out if I'm right, why don't ya?
  • _chy,

    Although your battery may not directly be the culprit behind the random starting problems that your ES350 exhibits, the battery terminal (positive or negative) could be loose. (reference this diagram) In my old '91 MR2 I would experience occasional difficulties starting the car even though I had recently replaced the battery. After carefully scrutinizing the battery itself I finally noticed that the positive terminal was hanging minutely off of the battery. So I screwed the terminal back onto the battery and consequently I did not experience this random starting issue any more.
  • After reading some of the posts relating to starting issues, I didn't feel so alone. For about two months now, I've been experiencing issues where when I go to start, the car cranks excessively (about 6-10 seconds) which doesn't sound like a long time, but when you are starting, it's not normal.

    I've taken to a local mechanic, couldn't find a problem, taken it to the dealer, they had it for 2 1/2 days, couldn't find a problem. I've had a full BG fuel system service, new "Lexus" spark plugs, and a new battery installed, didn't fix the problem. Good news is, I've gotten a tune-up, but I worry this problem is a pre-cursor to something bigger, and I would like to fix it early.

    My car is a 2003 ES300 with 138,000 miles. The car runs and drives great, it's just when starting up there seems to be a problem lurking. Also, it happens at random times, never a way to predict, and of course, the dealer "couldn't re-create the problem", as usual.

    Don't get me wrong, Lexus is still one of the nicest most polite dealership establishments I've used, and they actually care, but I just wonder why they can't hear/see/feel what I'm experiencing, or why they can't diagnose.

    Any others out there with this particular type of issue?
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