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2009 Subaru Forester

batman47batman47 Posts: 606
The 2009 Forester will be unveiled in Japan this Christmas and in the USA in January 2009. What will happen with the Forester 2008? Will the Forester 2008 and the Forester 2009 be sold during the year 2008? I think that it has never been a Forester 2008 just the Forester 2007 sold in 2008. Are there any comments on this? The 2009 Forester is another animal completely. It will compete with the RAV4, CR-V, and Outlander. So when the 2009 Forester will be sold in the USA?
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  • When the Land Rovers point out the LR2 did well in euro crash tests, they don't point out that it was __severely__ deformed when a pole, part of euro testing, was bashed into its side.
    An Audi Q7 by comparison showed half the deformation.

    Ironically, it was a Land Rover dealer that pointed me to that site, and those results where what killed whatever interest I had in it.

    Unfortunately Euro testing has only one older Subaru in its listings.
  • Not sure anybody's had one long enough to say for sure yet--what you get during the break-in period typically is well on the low side. I'm at only a little over 400 miles on mine and the gauge is showing 17.1 mpg--that's all local, lot-of-stop-signs driving (haven't even had a chance to take it on the expressway yet), so I don't think that's too bad. It's kind of difficult to resist giving it a good rip now and then either, because this thing cooks--but that doesn't help the mileage. I think if I'm getting 17 or so with only 400 miles of stop and go/aggressive driving, my real world ultimately is likely to bear out the government numbers of 19 city/24 hwy, and for the kind of performance/utility this car has I think that's excellent. Since the fed revised the official fuel economy numbers down last year they seem much more realistic than the old ones.
  • A query about SPC to Subaru got this response today:

    Thank you for your recent e-mail to Subaru of America, Inc. We appreciate you taking the time to contact us. At this time we are not aware of any plans to offer air filter or exhaust SPC enhancements for the 2009 Forester.

    Looks like if you want SPC, you buy the Imprezas.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    The 08 Forester has been out for a while. The 09 will ship in Feb/march time period.

    -mike
  • kate5000kate5000 Posts: 1,264
    I like how it looks. I was worrying Subaru will botch the Forester's body style, and I'll have to buy 5 Foresters'08 to last me next 20 years ;) but it looks like I'm safe waiting for 09 (while driving my Forester'06).
  • jacksan1jacksan1 Posts: 504
    The new one (2009) has now been officially released in Japan:

    http://www.subaru.jp/forester/forester/index.html (click on the lower left button with a car symbol to get details).
  • According to their spec sheet, the base model has about 140HP and 140 TQ. That's a step way down from that of the 07 base model.
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,657
    The Japanese-spec models use a 2.0 engine, not the 2.5 that we get.

    Bob
  • I like that aqua/green jade tone. Probably won't offer it here.
    Wonder if they'll offer that stain-proof material with the orange stitching.

    Back seat looks nice and high up off the floor as opposed to too low to the floor like most Subaru passenger seats as of late.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I like it, too, but my wife has a light green metallic Legacy so she's ready for a change. Not sure what she'll want, though.

    Comments from the photos:

    * love the perforations in the center sections of the leather seats
    * love that rear cup holder/fold out thing, perfect to keep the kids happy
    * headlamp washer are neat, but overkill (?)
    * only 1 sunglass compartment. Old one had one, then two.
    * rear seats recline

    Nothing here to turn me away from it, still looks very promising. Hope it drives well.
  • jacksan1jacksan1 Posts: 504
    Remains to be seen how much of the JDM equipment carries over to North America.

    As far as the headlamp washers are concerned, for those of us who live in the cold north with a lot of salt and grime in winter, they would be a great addition. A lot of higher-end European cars have them, as do many JDM cars. They do work nicely.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    My 1988 XT6 had the headlight washers too.....

    -mike
  • batman47batman47 Posts: 606
    Can somebody give some information about the following:
    (1)- approach angle
    (2)- departure angle
    (3)- turning circle
    (4)- ground clearance
    (5)- skid plates?
    (6)- front/rear vented discs?
    (7)- xenon?
    (8)- repeater/mirror signal lights?
    (9)- main options?
    (10)- 4 or 5 or 6 automatic?
    (11)- steering wheel controls?
    (12)- 4-cyl 2.0 or 4-cyl 2.5 or turbo?
    (13)- EPA mileage estimates
    (14)- etc
  • batman47batman47 Posts: 606
    The competition may be:

    The RAV4 4-cyl 4/auto (Toyota)
    The Santa Fe V6 4/auto (Hyundai)
    The Outlander 4-cyl CVT/auto (Mitsubishi)
    The CR-V 4-cyl 5/auto (Honda), and
    The 2009 Forester 4-cyl 4/auto (Subaru)

    From the above the CR-V or the Outlander could be the winner because of the up-to-date technology. However the Forester provides better off-road items, e.g. center differential (mechanical), limited slip differential front, limited slip differential rear, limited slip differential center. I will feel much safe driving a Forester than the other ones. Another factor is the petrol consume of these vehicles and prices.
    Equally, from the photos the Forester (Japan) does not come with a rail roof and I think this is a disadvantage. I personally like my SUV has a rail roof so when the situation arise I could order a cross rail and therefore be able to load several items on it.
  • jacksan1jacksan1 Posts: 504
    The roof rails are available with the JDM Forester. They just have to be ordered as a manufacturer's option.

    An article from Nikkei:

    http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20071226/144778/ (see pics at the bottom of the article)

    Nikkei also has an article on the U.S.-spec Forester, but it is in Japanese only, and I am too lazy to translate. Once Nikkei translates the article into English, I will post the link.
  • rs_pettyrs_petty Posts: 423
    on the Motortrend site
  • rochcomrochcom Posts: 247
    You can find some specs here in a Subaru press release:
    http://www.fhi.co.jp/english/contents/pdf_en_41793.pdf

    Some of the specs are translated from the metric and commented upon below:

    Interesting information from Forester Press release with comments:

    110mm Taller = 4 1/3 inches higher. Harder to remove snow from roof? How does it affect center of gravity and handling?

    45 mm wider = 1 ¾ inches wider. Seems reasonable.

    0.1 meter = 3.7 inches smaller turning radius “for zippy handling.” Great press release writers.

    120 volt ( and 12 volt) power outlet in hatch area of Japanese version at least.

    Large center console compartment that can hold small notebook computer Approximately 8 ¼ x 11 ½ inches.

    Styling (reprinted without comment): “Streamlined, yet sculpted styling evokes images of powerful, well defined muscles carved out of stone. “

    Power train information given is NOT for North American models.

    Fuel efficiency information as quoted elsewhere is for Japanese domestic models using the 2.0 litre engine.
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