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2009 Subaru Forester

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  • occkingoccking Posts: 346
    Yes, It's easy, just go on line & apply. I assume if you have good credit it will be approved promptly. Even when I got the 4th card a few months ago, I was approved immediately. Just have to keep track of the rewards as it will cut you off without notice once you hit $500. On the anniversary date it will automatically start again. At your Subaru dealer you can probably get a brochure about getting a card, I believe you can get $25 jump start in Subaru bucks when getting a new card as well.
  • kurtamaxxxguykurtamaxxxguy Posts: 1,751
    For those plagued with rough shifts from their 4S AT'S, my service tech recommended the following procedure to reset the transmission so it can try (again) to learn proper shifting:

    Warning:
    This was advice provided to me, and I take no responsibility for any drivability issues that may result from it. You might want to verify this info with your own service adviser before attempting it.

    1. Remove (-) (black) cable from the vehicle 12v battery.
    2. Turn ignition key to ON.
    3. Depress and hold brake for 2 seconds. Repeat this several times.
    4. Reconnect the (-) battery cable to the 12v battery.

    What happens?
    All the computer memories in the vehicle will be erased. IE, all stored radio stations are deleted, altered factory presets are reset to defaults, all engine and transmission "adaptive knowledge" deleted, etc.

    The vehicle basically starts from "zero", and as you drive it, it will relearn your behaviors and adapt the transmission and engine responsiveness parameters appropriately.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    You basically reset the ECU, including the engine and tranny computers.

    The brake trick is just a way to speed it up, so any residual power dies down and it truly resets. We used to tell people to wait 20 minutes.

    A couple of caveats:

    * you'll lose your radio's memory, so preset stations are gone
    * have the remote handy, you may need to lock/unlock if the alarm goes off
    * first tank will have poor mileage, it starts rich and leans the fuel mixture gradually

    I would also capture any error codes if you have them first, else they are lost.
  • imm19imm19 Posts: 12
    Hi everyone,
    Do you think this one will fit on 2009 Limited
    http://www.perrinperformance.com/products/show/463/Strut-Brace-Front?category=8&- - model=31
    It is listed for 2009 XT. Also, do you have any other suggestions from your own experience?
    Thank you all :)
  • kurtamaxxxguykurtamaxxxguy Posts: 1,751
    ...is why Subaru factory engineers appear to be unable to find this "extra efficiency" in their engines.

    If equal length exhaust headers improve performance, would it really cost Subaru _that_ much to outfit its engines with them from the beginning?

    Wrt the strut brace, Perrin's been around for some time, and appears to be a favorite of some of the rally teams in the Portland OR area. That's sort of a left handed way of saying the product will probably do what it claims.
    However, I suspect you would have to be driving the Forester XT really hard (like on a rally circuit or race track) to notice any real difference.
  • volkovvolkov Posts: 1,302
    It should bolt on if it fits the XT. They just probably aren't expecting much of a market for those things in a 2.5 na Forester. It's interesting though that the compatibility tab doesn't list any Forester. I'd be sure to get a correction in writing before buying.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    My '98 Forester had one from an Impreza, so my guess is it will fit. If anything it's the turbo that has far less room in the engine bay. The brace has to make it's way around the intercooler.

    Basically you're bracing up the front suspension. The Forester is very rigid already, as crash tests on the front, side, and even roof have proven, but more rigidity can't hurt.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Actually you'd be surprised at how much a set of equal-length headers can cost. Most OE exhaust are just cheap castings, and probably save the automakers a couple of hundred per vehicle.

    Remember we're talking about an H4, so that means 2 seperate 2-into-1 headers, one for each side.

    Compare this cast one (not from a Forester, this is likely one side of a V8):

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    To this mandrel-bent equal length usually nicely coated header (gorgeous one from an in-line 6, or V12?):

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  • kurtamaxxxguykurtamaxxxguy Posts: 1,751
    Good point on the headers.

    But my Forester is warranted for 6 years and 100,000 miles, so there won't be any mods to its engine anytime soon.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I'm sure your engine is capable of making FAR more power, surely the WRX folks have figured out exactly how to unleash it, as well.

    OE is always a compromise, especially when they're trying to keep the price reasonable.
  • kurtamaxxxguykurtamaxxxguy Posts: 1,751
    Well, part of the trick is keeping the vehicle drive-able.
    A lot of these engine mods go for big boost and the classic "turbo rush".
    For me, that's hell in daily driving. The rush in the Outback XT was one reason I chose the Forester over it - XT's far more predictable.

    The trick is for the car to be responsive, no matter what.
    AWD makes a big difference there. I've seen many FWD / RWD cars smoke their tires and drift just trying to merge with traffic. Not so with the Subie - it just goes where pointed with little drama. :)
  • kurtamaxxxguykurtamaxxxguy Posts: 1,751
    Someone on the EDMUNDS ANSWERS forums claims his '09 XT engine recently died due to a bearing failure, around 11k miles.

    Is anyone here aware of any trend with these engines, and what to watch for?

    I've been very careful wrt following oil changes, and use a proven additive to help protect the turbo.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    First I've seen, besides the early stop-sell of course. But those engines didn't actually fail.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,679
    It might have simply been an owner who failed to heed the warnings.... :(
    2010 Subaru Forester, 2011 Ford Fiesta, 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup, 1974 Ford Pinto Wagon
  • camrytimes2camrytimes2 Posts: 31
    Interior fuse #12 is linked to the ECU and transmission controller, but I found that removing and re-inserting that fuse was ineffective at fully resetting the ECU. I later disconnected and reconnected the battery. The 2009 radio did not lose presets when the battery was disconnected. Upon reconnecting the battery, the engine immobilizer was active and the car would not restart until the key fob was used to lock and unlock the doors. Reason for resetting the ECU was that my engine had developed a knock that appeared only when the car was fully warmed-up.
  • subparusubparu Posts: 2
    I'm the guy with the Forester with a engine bearing failure according to the service department of McBride Subaru of Plattsburgh NY. This just happened. What warnings was I supposed to be aware of?
  • subparusubparu Posts: 2
    Hi, I'm the guy with the 09 Forester with a blown engine. Well, what the Subaru dealer mechanic said was it was a "bearing failure" and he speculated that turbo failure may have led to it. Anyway, they're putting in a new engine.

    I'm a total newbie (to this forum and to forester turbo engines) so I may well have missed something so I'm totally curious about your comment about warnings. I've taken it in to dealer for both services required for it's mileage (11000km) and I tried to follow all the break-in rules and I've only ever filled up with 91 octane or better. Is there something else? I want to know otherwise I'm just going to trash the new engine.

    BTW, do you guys know the VIN range of the early turbo you say were subject to a recall order? I'd like to check against mine.

    Thanks
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,679
    Post #2449 has information on the actual recall. I seem to remember kurtamaxxxguy posting about an early production oil change warning (not sure if it was a recall) regarding the '09 Forester XT, but I cannot find it after a brief search and, not owning a Forester, I do not remember the specifics. That particular memory is what I was referring to in regard to "warning." Essentially, turbo engines have many oil-lubricated/cooled parts that are very sensitive and therefore not very forgiving.

    It does not sound like you did anything wrong with your engine, and the fact that it is being replaced on the manufacturer's dime supports that. However, that does not necessarily give you any peace of mind concerning this same failure happening again, now does it?! I wish I could find that post to give you more specific information, but there are a lot of XT owners out there; Not only are many of them are highly knowledgeable about their cars, but they are happy to share their knowledge.

    Good luck to you, and please let us know how the repair turns out.
    2010 Subaru Forester, 2011 Ford Fiesta, 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup, 1974 Ford Pinto Wagon
  • kurtamaxxxguykurtamaxxxguy Posts: 1,751
    The Forester XT went on "stop sale" alert early in 2008 because some turbo engines were discovered to have bad bearings. Subaru issued a dealer check kit to test oil for excessive bearing wear. It seems some of them got missed as, aside from posts here, '09 Subaru Forester XT Reviews on Edmunds have several customers suffering from blown engines.

    The other known engine problem is Recall ID 08V460000 and reads as follows:

    Recall Date:
    SEP 11, 2008

    Model Affected:
    2009 SUBARU FORESTER

    Summary:
    SUBARU IS RECALLING 16,715 MY 2007-2008 LEGACY SEDANS AND WAGONS, MY 2008 IMPREZA SEDANS AND WAGONS, AND MY 2009 FORESTER VEHICLES. SOME VEHICLES MAY HAVE THE CYLINDER HEAD-SIDE OIL SUPPLY PIPE AND TURBOCHARGER-SIDE PIPE IMPROPERLY ASSEMBLED.

    Consequence:
    VIBRATION WOULD OCCUR WHILE DRIVING AND, OVER TIME, COULD EVENTUALLY RESULT IN CRACKING THE PIPE WHICH WOULD ALLOW OIL TO LEAK. IF LEAKING OIL CONTACTS COMPONENTS OPERATING AT HIGH TEMPERATURES, AN ENGINE COMPARTMENT FIRE COULD OCCUR.

    Remedy:
    DEALERS WILL INSPECT FOR CRACKING OR AN OIL LEAK AT THE OIL SUPPLY PIPE AT THE CYLINDER HEAD-SIDE. AN ADDITIONAL BRACKET WILL BE INSTALLED TO INCREASE RIGIDITY OF THE PIPE AND THE PIPE ASSEMBLY WILL BE REPLACED WITH A MODIFIED PART. THE RECALL BEGAN ON OCTOBER 20, 2008. OWNERS MAY CONTACT SUBARU AT 1-800-782-2783.

    Potential Units Affected:
    16715

    Notes:
    SUBARU OF AMERICA, INC. WVF-16
  • robert142robert142 Posts: 18
    We like our new 2009 Forester. Except we find the two vertical fake brushed aluminum moldings to be distracting on the dash. Especially with the sun roof cover moved back. The brightness is distracting. Anybody else notice this? I don't want to paint it over, since its a lease.

    Any ideas on how to reduce the glare without damaging the paint on the fake aluminum?

    I notice that the high end model with leather seats has the vertical strips in fake wood veneer, less distracting. But we have the middle model with fake brushed aluminum.
  • calessancalessan Posts: 18
    I just upgraded from an '01 Forester to an '09 XT, and I love it!! One thing I'm missing is storage with covers. My '01 had a small compartment on my door, another one to the left of the steering wheel column, and a larger one on the dash. I can't find any in the '09, besides the big console. Are there any small closed compartments within reach of the driver?

    I really love the storage under the floor in the back. I'm able to stow my headrests there, since I need to remove them for car seats (for top tether use). I can also store my extra diaper bag there without taking up room elsewhere. Big thumbs up!
  • birdboybirdboy Posts: 158
    happy to share that I have gotten rid of two rattles so far. I found that the rear seat locks had some play and creaked a bit. I used some foam to make a more snug fit. Creaks are gone. I also unscrewed and lowered the sunglass holder to find a large plastic connector rattling up there. Again used foam. rattle gone. I still have to get rid of the sunroof deflector rattle and the headliner rattle in the rear part of the sunroof.
    I hope that someone from Subaru is reading this so that they can address these nuisance rattles.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    My '98 Forester was amazing with its seemingly endless little cubbies, including one on each of all 4 door handles. Many were too small to be useful, but it was still nice to have places to store a pocket knife, small flashlights, or headphones for my cell phone. I miss those a bit.

    Thanks for the tip on the headrest, I think our kids are too short (will measure) and it may aid visibility to remove them.
  • kurtamaxxxguykurtamaxxxguy Posts: 1,751
    ...is apparently the same as the 2009 Forester.
    My servicing dealer got a 2010 in and could find no changes from 2009.

    Some of the options packages are different, and hopefully some of the TSB's have been addressed.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    The models with GPS now get Bluetooth standard.

    The X Premium model gets a power driver's seats.

    Blink and you'll miss all the changes. At least they didn't cut out content, and in another thread someone mentioned prices did not go up.
  • I moved away from Plattsburgh in 96- sorry about your Forester engine
    I just got the 2009 All weather premium package a month ago and it rides like a dream- had my last one for 8 years
    Hope you'll be back on the road soon-past the old Valcour is my favorite road

    23 Grace
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    There's a new red color - Paprika Red Pearl. It comes in gray cloth on the X, black on the XT, and black leather in both Limiteds.

    Anyone catch any other changes?
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,724
    Driver's power seat on X Premium and Bluetooth on NAVI models.

    http://media.subaru.com/index.php?s=43&item=77

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    The color rendition in that PDF file is simply AWFUL, at least on my monitor. I have no idea what that new red really looks like.
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