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2009 Subaru Forester

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    So I took out the wife's Forester....

    Err, what I mean to say is she needed gas, and let me take it for a while. :D

    Any how, she was getting 23.something mpg, I decided I would try to get the best mileage possible. I drove from a suburb to another suburb and back, all streets with lights, no highways.

    I actually managed to get 29.7mpg in town, with traffic, lights and all. At one point I was at 30mpg but it dropped just as I pulled in the driveway.

    I was using every trick in the book - slow starts, coasting to red lights, very light braking. Good timing at stop lights is crucial.

    Pretty amazing what you can accomplish if you try hard.

    2009 PZEV Limited (auto trans).
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,396
    Yeah, that's what I found as well when I was traversing the Alaska Highway next to Whitehorse. Mine was close to 40 mpg, but traffic was pretty light so I was only timing the lights and mine has the manual tranny (so I could do true coasting).
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,396
    Hahahah; my wife was pretty mad at me when I told her. She was sure that I tore up the sides of the ditch, but there was only one little spot where that front tire spun that was even out of sorts. And, there was no grass there anyway, so all I really did was move some newly fallen leaves. I don't think she would be too thrilled about me asking her to handle the video camera while I staged it, though.

    My daughter (two years old today) had a great time riding in the car with me! She would say, "Whoa! Big bump!" and giggle hysterically.
  • volkovvolkov Posts: 1,302
    So two questions come to mind:

    Do you have a drawbridge to go with that moat that surrounds your house? Sounds pretty small though. You must live in one of those "starter castles" and this one came with a "starter" moat.

    What was your plan if you didn't make it? Can't help but think the DW disapproval goes much higher when trying to navigate that one. I can already see the "What were you thinking?!" look that would be on Dra's face since I would have to ask her to drive the stuck or towing vehicle.
    I can still remember the communal oh $@&% from my friends and I when my friend slid backwards on a similar muddy hill in the middle of nowhere impaling the rear hitch at the bottom. Wonder that one of us wasn't crushed before we got it free.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    That's what a tripod is for. ;)

    You have a manual, eh? That's nice. My 98 was a manual, but my wife was commuting from MD to VA and back and insisted on a slushbox this time around.

    The EPA numbers are better for the auto, but I'm convinced the manual is more efficient. Consumer Reports got 3mpg better with the stick shift!
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,396
    Hahah, good point! However, the terrain is such that "not making it," would simply mean throwing it in reverse.

    I only have a partial moat, and it is fairly small, but it really could pass for a moat (at least across the driveway) in the spring time when meltdown hits in earnest. Until the ice dam breaks at the end of the run, we can get quite a pond (about 8-12" deep) growing! It is an annual event to break out the pick axe for a chop-a-thon at some point each April. Only when we have a long stretch of cloudy-but-warm weather during April is that not necessary (because the snowpack melts evenly under those conditions).

    Tripod. That's a good idea. I should probably pick one of those up one of these years..... :blush:

    Ironically, I arrived at work this morning (driving my '98 Escort, as the Forester is now winterized and set up for my wife and children's use) and parked next to a 2010 paprika red Forester X Premium. Yep, it was the one from the local dealership that I tried to buy six weeks ago only to have my (very reasonable) offer rebuked. A gal that works in the building next to mine bought it over the weekend. I sure hope that extra six weeks on the lot did not lose the dealership the $200 off MSRP I had requested! :P Although, frankly, with the rugged package on it, I much prefer the looks and utility of the one I purchased. That black accent all across the bottom of the body really lends itself well to the "burnt orange" of the paprika.
  • djc1djc1 Posts: 13
    Has anyone had a problem with water leaking through the air box through the A/C filter and into the passenger floor? It appears heavy rain hitting the windshield and draining down is bouncing into the A/C intake opening. The A/C filter is soaked when it rains heavy and drains down the windshield. I checked the drain gutters and they are not clogged. Any thoughts?

    Dennis
  • thanks for this. will pick some up on the weekend.
  • birdboybirdboy Posts: 158
    I have been driving for 40 years and have had many vehicles during that time. Only twice in 40 years have I had a windshield crack. believe it or not, today a small pebble kicked up and put a small crack in my windshield. This is the third time in a one year period. Fortunately, this time they were able to repair the crack, as it was small, and I barely notice the little remaining mark.The past two times, I needed a new windshield.
    Interestingly, The" Glass doctor" , freely informed me that he was seeing quite a few new Foresters in his shop this year, and some like myself, some multiple times as well.. He believes that between the height of the vehicle and the straight up windshield angle, it is more likely to break when compared to other make and models. i do not know if this is true, however I will be calling Subaru USA to make a complaint and investigation. Anyone else have multiple windshield cracks?
  • Yeah, I have had very few windshield cracks in my driving experience (36 yrs), but
    have had 2 rock chip incidents with my 09 Forester X Premium in the 18 months
    I've owned it.

    The first occurred just weeks after purchasing; the second about 2 months ago.

    In both cases, I have promptly had the chip repaired, and both times the repair
    was successful (ie chips have not grown into full blown cracks neccesitating a
    windshield replacement.

    This is especially important if you have the heated windshield, as a replacement
    costs $700 +/-(?).

    I don't know if the root cause of this vulnerability is the height/angle of vehicle; or the windshield glass is extra thin; or if it is just a statistical anomaly that so many of us posting here have experienced this problem...

    I recommend all 09/10 Forester owners check their insurance coverage for glass breakage, and add the $0 deductible for cracked windshield replacement to your policy...
  • I've never had that problem in my '09 XT.

    Perhaps there is a partial clog within the cowl baffling that is preventing water entering the cowl from draining properly?
  • samiam_68samiam_68 Posts: 775
    Glass on the new Foresters is paper thin. That's why everyone is getting many cracked windshields.
  • birdboybirdboy Posts: 158
    thank you, actually the heated windshield was close to $900.00 the first time, and a bit less the second. This third time the crack was able to be repaired. I have $0 deductible, but honestly we all know claims are an issue especially when they are several within a short period. I have called Subusa and the issue is noted.Is there anything else I could do?
  • sgloonsgloon Posts: 303
    Juice,

    I take it this is OK to use on the plastics?
  • bigfrank3bigfrank3 Posts: 426
    I have been driving for 44 years and have had over 55 vehicles. Counting the current 2, my wife and I have had 5 Foresters and I can tell you we have had more windshield chips in these than in all the other cars combined. No cracks though, just chips. Many I have been able to fix myself with the kits you can buy, but we have had to replace 3 windshields.
  • We bought an '09 Forester last January. Last week a small rock was thrown by a car coming toward us and chipped the windshield plus started a crack. Several hours later the crack was somewhere between 12-15" long. It started as a horizontal line and then made a downward turn. I've been driving for more than 30 years and this is the first vehicle I've owned that has had the windshield crack.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I've had no problem, but be sure to read the label and any instructions in case they've reformulated.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I've had the opposite experience.

    My wife cracked the windshield on her Mazda 626 twice, but my 98 Forester lasted 9 years without a crack, and our 09 is also intact.

    Keep in mind how upright the windshield is, and make sure you leave plenty of distance to the car in front.

    In your case I'm not sure anything could have prevented a crack - the car was moving in the opposite direciton and must've thrown that rock like a bullet right at you. :sick:
  • robm2robm2 Posts: 53
    My wife's '09 F-XT has had 4 chips that were repaired, and one rock that caused a crack. The crack was not impairing driver's view, and now that the snow is flying here in Canada, the crack is spreading.

    With the cost to replace the heated windshield WAY UP THERE, we're going to wait until winter rock season is done, and replace it next summer. This assumes the crack doesn't go crazy and wrap back on itself and impede her view.

    Hers is the most crack-prone windshield of any vehicle I've ever owned, (and that's a lot of vehicles).
  • birdboybirdboy Posts: 158
    With reasons that you can understand, the excessive cabin rattles and squeaks, most but not all , have been corrected, and now the 3 cracked windshields within a year , have taken a toll on my liking the Forseter. I now find myself paranoid when driving as to anything hitting my windshield even falling leaves. The sad thing is that all three cracks occurred on state toll roads , not off roads. does anyone know why this model seems to be prone to fast and easy cracking. Is it the angle of the windshield being almost vertical ?is it a thinner glass used? Is there anything that could be done aside from waiting for the next incident? As some of you also stated, we have been driving many years with other cars and have not experienecd this high number of cracked windshield reporting. Subaru USA was sympathetic, however when I honestly told them a small rock or pebble hit the windshield they said that this was clearly the cause and not the glass or design. I honestly do not feel that the last two cracks would have happened if it were another make vehicle. Perhaps the first one, but thats it. Please kepe reproting this issue and perhaps the quality care team will look into this as I know they must be reading these forums .
    Thanks
  • robm2robm2 Posts: 53
    Some glass companies offer a "diamond fusion" polymer coat that is applied to the windshield. At acts like Rain-X on steroids, and it greatly increases the strength of the windshield.

    This coat may cost $400-$600, but they will warrantee the windshield and replace if it gets cracked for 3-4 years, depending on the service interval you choose.

    I got this fusion coat on my STI, and I'm really happy with it. It's like having permanent Rain-X, and it has survived many a rock hit without cracking. We should have got it on my wife's F-XT.

    When we finally replace her windshield, we'll also be getting this coat on her windshield.
  • That's definitely something that I'm going to be checking into! I'd rather pay the extra money now than have to keep paying for replacing windshields, especially since we do a lot of driving on dirt roads. Thanks for the suggestion.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,396
    Unfortunately, I really cannot comment until I experience my first chip or two. I have actually never had a Subaru windshield out-and-out crack on me. I have had probably 25-30 or more combined chips on three previous Outback windshields over about 160,000 miles, none "repaired," but none ever cracked (which was somewhat surprising given my extreme climate in Fairbanks, Alaska). So far, no chips on the Forester, but we shall see.

    I doubt it has too much to do with the angle of the windshield; it certainly is not anywhere close to "near vertical."

    If these are small chips in the middle area of the glass that are cracking, it probably does have something to do with the quality of glass. If the chips are at or near the edges, it is likely more bad luck than anything else; edge chips are always more likely to induce cracks.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,396
    Post topic, plus I installed my winter tires over the weekend.

    I managed to find a set of 16" silver-painted steel wheels from a 2007 Forester on which to install the tires. I like them! They look pretty good on the car, but the smaller rim size, combined with the winter tires, makes for a much smoother ride. They are even somewhat quieter than the stock tires, though there is a subtle hum at highway speeds due to the open block design of the tires (Goodyear Ultra Grip Ice, P215/65R16).

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  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,661
    The steelies look good. I prefer them to the wheel covers now used on base models.

    Bob
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,396
    So do I. They are simple (no covers) and easy to maintain. Apparently, Subaru offers an optional 16" alloy wheel for the X; it is too bad they do not make that wheel optional for the Premium as well. I would prefer that both my sets of wheels were 16" rather than having the 17" wheels for summer use.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I like styled steel rims better as well.

    That thing looks ready for winter.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,396
    Hahahahaha; yeah, dirt and all!

    Oh, man. Speaking of "ready for winter," my neighbors cleared a swath between the subdivision road and their driveway, which includes a couple of steep grades, in preparation for sledding once the snow flies. The terrain is kinda rough, but I am so terribly tempted to take the Forester over it. The only thing holding me back, other than the car's only being two weeks old, is that the angle of approach is pretty dramatic and once I get down there, there is no easy way out if the car cannot make it on its own.... :blush:
  • 26cars26cars Posts: 19
    Wondering if anyone out there has been on the beach with their Forester (or other Sube awd). I have taken my past SUV's (Explorers/Expedeition/Ranger) out on the beach around Cape Cod & Plymouth, MA, but they had low range (seldom needed, however). The trails are mostly firm pack to somewhat loose sand; I had my Forester on a short stretch of beach to launch kayaks a few weeks ago and it seemed ok, but I don't want to get stuck. Any input appreciated!
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I took my 98 Forester on the beaches of the Outer Banks, a couple of years in a row. Several times, too.

    It was a hoot. Back then it only had 7.5" of ground clearance, but it's light and with tires aired down to 18psi is floated well above the sand.

    I actually drove by a HD diesel pickup who has forgotten to air down his tires.

    The new Forester has wider tires, more than an inch extra clearance, and much better approach and departure angles. It should be fine so long as you don't stop in soft sand or go too crazy.

    Drive smoothly and definitely wash the undercarriage when you're done. Salt water causes rust, big time. All the full-time beach rigs I saw were rusty.
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