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2009 Subaru Forester

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  • kurtamaxxxguykurtamaxxxguy Posts: 1,747
    Well, part of the trick is keeping the vehicle drive-able.
    A lot of these engine mods go for big boost and the classic "turbo rush".
    For me, that's hell in daily driving. The rush in the Outback XT was one reason I chose the Forester over it - XT's far more predictable.

    The trick is for the car to be responsive, no matter what.
    AWD makes a big difference there. I've seen many FWD / RWD cars smoke their tires and drift just trying to merge with traffic. Not so with the Subie - it just goes where pointed with little drama. :)
  • kurtamaxxxguykurtamaxxxguy Posts: 1,747
    Someone on the EDMUNDS ANSWERS forums claims his '09 XT engine recently died due to a bearing failure, around 11k miles.

    Is anyone here aware of any trend with these engines, and what to watch for?

    I've been very careful wrt following oil changes, and use a proven additive to help protect the turbo.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    First I've seen, besides the early stop-sell of course. But those engines didn't actually fail.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,269
    It might have simply been an owner who failed to heed the warnings.... :(
  • camrytimes2camrytimes2 Posts: 31
    Interior fuse #12 is linked to the ECU and transmission controller, but I found that removing and re-inserting that fuse was ineffective at fully resetting the ECU. I later disconnected and reconnected the battery. The 2009 radio did not lose presets when the battery was disconnected. Upon reconnecting the battery, the engine immobilizer was active and the car would not restart until the key fob was used to lock and unlock the doors. Reason for resetting the ECU was that my engine had developed a knock that appeared only when the car was fully warmed-up.
  • subparusubparu Posts: 2
    I'm the guy with the Forester with a engine bearing failure according to the service department of McBride Subaru of Plattsburgh NY. This just happened. What warnings was I supposed to be aware of?
  • subparusubparu Posts: 2
    Hi, I'm the guy with the 09 Forester with a blown engine. Well, what the Subaru dealer mechanic said was it was a "bearing failure" and he speculated that turbo failure may have led to it. Anyway, they're putting in a new engine.

    I'm a total newbie (to this forum and to forester turbo engines) so I may well have missed something so I'm totally curious about your comment about warnings. I've taken it in to dealer for both services required for it's mileage (11000km) and I tried to follow all the break-in rules and I've only ever filled up with 91 octane or better. Is there something else? I want to know otherwise I'm just going to trash the new engine.

    BTW, do you guys know the VIN range of the early turbo you say were subject to a recall order? I'd like to check against mine.

    Thanks
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,269
    Post #2449 has information on the actual recall. I seem to remember kurtamaxxxguy posting about an early production oil change warning (not sure if it was a recall) regarding the '09 Forester XT, but I cannot find it after a brief search and, not owning a Forester, I do not remember the specifics. That particular memory is what I was referring to in regard to "warning." Essentially, turbo engines have many oil-lubricated/cooled parts that are very sensitive and therefore not very forgiving.

    It does not sound like you did anything wrong with your engine, and the fact that it is being replaced on the manufacturer's dime supports that. However, that does not necessarily give you any peace of mind concerning this same failure happening again, now does it?! I wish I could find that post to give you more specific information, but there are a lot of XT owners out there; Not only are many of them are highly knowledgeable about their cars, but they are happy to share their knowledge.

    Good luck to you, and please let us know how the repair turns out.
  • kurtamaxxxguykurtamaxxxguy Posts: 1,747
    The Forester XT went on "stop sale" alert early in 2008 because some turbo engines were discovered to have bad bearings. Subaru issued a dealer check kit to test oil for excessive bearing wear. It seems some of them got missed as, aside from posts here, '09 Subaru Forester XT Reviews on Edmunds have several customers suffering from blown engines.

    The other known engine problem is Recall ID 08V460000 and reads as follows:

    Recall Date:
    SEP 11, 2008

    Model Affected:
    2009 SUBARU FORESTER

    Summary:
    SUBARU IS RECALLING 16,715 MY 2007-2008 LEGACY SEDANS AND WAGONS, MY 2008 IMPREZA SEDANS AND WAGONS, AND MY 2009 FORESTER VEHICLES. SOME VEHICLES MAY HAVE THE CYLINDER HEAD-SIDE OIL SUPPLY PIPE AND TURBOCHARGER-SIDE PIPE IMPROPERLY ASSEMBLED.

    Consequence:
    VIBRATION WOULD OCCUR WHILE DRIVING AND, OVER TIME, COULD EVENTUALLY RESULT IN CRACKING THE PIPE WHICH WOULD ALLOW OIL TO LEAK. IF LEAKING OIL CONTACTS COMPONENTS OPERATING AT HIGH TEMPERATURES, AN ENGINE COMPARTMENT FIRE COULD OCCUR.

    Remedy:
    DEALERS WILL INSPECT FOR CRACKING OR AN OIL LEAK AT THE OIL SUPPLY PIPE AT THE CYLINDER HEAD-SIDE. AN ADDITIONAL BRACKET WILL BE INSTALLED TO INCREASE RIGIDITY OF THE PIPE AND THE PIPE ASSEMBLY WILL BE REPLACED WITH A MODIFIED PART. THE RECALL BEGAN ON OCTOBER 20, 2008. OWNERS MAY CONTACT SUBARU AT 1-800-782-2783.

    Potential Units Affected:
    16715

    Notes:
    SUBARU OF AMERICA, INC. WVF-16
  • robert142robert142 Posts: 18
    We like our new 2009 Forester. Except we find the two vertical fake brushed aluminum moldings to be distracting on the dash. Especially with the sun roof cover moved back. The brightness is distracting. Anybody else notice this? I don't want to paint it over, since its a lease.

    Any ideas on how to reduce the glare without damaging the paint on the fake aluminum?

    I notice that the high end model with leather seats has the vertical strips in fake wood veneer, less distracting. But we have the middle model with fake brushed aluminum.
  • calessancalessan Posts: 18
    I just upgraded from an '01 Forester to an '09 XT, and I love it!! One thing I'm missing is storage with covers. My '01 had a small compartment on my door, another one to the left of the steering wheel column, and a larger one on the dash. I can't find any in the '09, besides the big console. Are there any small closed compartments within reach of the driver?

    I really love the storage under the floor in the back. I'm able to stow my headrests there, since I need to remove them for car seats (for top tether use). I can also store my extra diaper bag there without taking up room elsewhere. Big thumbs up!
  • birdboybirdboy Posts: 158
    happy to share that I have gotten rid of two rattles so far. I found that the rear seat locks had some play and creaked a bit. I used some foam to make a more snug fit. Creaks are gone. I also unscrewed and lowered the sunglass holder to find a large plastic connector rattling up there. Again used foam. rattle gone. I still have to get rid of the sunroof deflector rattle and the headliner rattle in the rear part of the sunroof.
    I hope that someone from Subaru is reading this so that they can address these nuisance rattles.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    My '98 Forester was amazing with its seemingly endless little cubbies, including one on each of all 4 door handles. Many were too small to be useful, but it was still nice to have places to store a pocket knife, small flashlights, or headphones for my cell phone. I miss those a bit.

    Thanks for the tip on the headrest, I think our kids are too short (will measure) and it may aid visibility to remove them.
  • kurtamaxxxguykurtamaxxxguy Posts: 1,747
    ...is apparently the same as the 2009 Forester.
    My servicing dealer got a 2010 in and could find no changes from 2009.

    Some of the options packages are different, and hopefully some of the TSB's have been addressed.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    The models with GPS now get Bluetooth standard.

    The X Premium model gets a power driver's seats.

    Blink and you'll miss all the changes. At least they didn't cut out content, and in another thread someone mentioned prices did not go up.
  • I moved away from Plattsburgh in 96- sorry about your Forester engine
    I just got the 2009 All weather premium package a month ago and it rides like a dream- had my last one for 8 years
    Hope you'll be back on the road soon-past the old Valcour is my favorite road

    23 Grace
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    There's a new red color - Paprika Red Pearl. It comes in gray cloth on the X, black on the XT, and black leather in both Limiteds.

    Anyone catch any other changes?
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,652
    Driver's power seat on X Premium and Bluetooth on NAVI models.

    http://media.subaru.com/index.php?s=43&item=77

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    The color rendition in that PDF file is simply AWFUL, at least on my monitor. I have no idea what that new red really looks like.
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