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2009 Subaru Forester

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    That sucks... you do have Subaru Bucks, though?

    I think we have about $1000 worth of those saved up just in case. Last time, with out '02 Legacy, nothing ever broke, so we got $2400 off our Forester. :shades:
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,269
    It seems high to me, but I am not sure how much of the price is parts and how much is labor. I had to buy a new blower fan for my '96 Outback and it was about $150, and took me about an hour to install at ten degrees. I probably could have shaved 20 minutes off that time if my hands weren't so darn cold! :surprise:
  • Try getting a diagnosis at a different dealer. This one sounds like they are trying to rip you off.
  • tkay2tkay2 Posts: 32
    Thanks for the response. The dealer called Subaru and they covered the parts $$$$ what I paid was the dealer install...$168.00 they called it good faith warranty... call it COOL
  • I have a 08 Forester as well and I used Appraisal Group of America. I was very happy with the service. Fee was a little steep at $399. They faxed the report over to Farmers and the adjuster sent me a check for the $7,000. My car still rattles and the paint is crappy but at least I got a check.
  • I have a 2011 Forester premium. I bought it new almost a year ago and it now has 4,000 miles. The middle seam on the back of the driver's seat is fraying! There are loose threads which are getting worse with each use. I think the cloth seat material and workmanship is inferior and totally unacceptable! I have also noticed that the light gray material stains easily and does not clean up well. Does anyone else have a similar experience? How about a reccomendation for good seat covers, after I get Subaru to replace this defective seat back?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    First I've heard so that's highly unusual.

    You are under the 12 month/12k mile adjustment period, so I would take it to your dealer.

    The back seat doesn't even get used as often, so there's no way that is acceptable. Knock on wood but our 09 Limited is perfect, so they should fix that or even replace the whole bottom cushion!
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,269
    40K on my '10 Forester premium, and the seats are still perfect, despite the two hoodlums in the back! Mine is Paprika, though, so that has the black seats.

    My friends have a '10 Forester premium at the same mileage in Dark Grey, with the grey seats, and while I like the light interior (aesthetically), it definitely has a propensity for staining. Again, upholstery fit & finish is perfect.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    We have an '09, my brother got an '11, and my sister has an '03. When we meet up it looks like a dealership parking lot.

    Sis was shopping for a '12 but I think she's keeping the '03. Needs a new timing belt, though, and they had that $500 Costco offer, so she was tempted.
  • I am just about to replace my second clutch in 10,000 miles on my Subaru Forrester. Subaru claim they are not aware of any problems and any consideration is very unlikly. Total milage 22,000. The recovery vehicle claimed he had collected 3 such forrester breakdowns recently
    ( recovery cost £500)
  • volkovvolkov Posts: 1,302
    Never heard of clutch issues with Foresters. What engine is this? Diesel + MT is new enough that problems would just be coming to light, and we don't have the diesel here in the N. American market for comparison.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,269
    Agreed.

    While I am not particularly fond of the clutch, there's nothing "wrong" with mine after 45,000 miles, and I suspect I use it much heavier, if you will, than most owners since I do off road with it in the winter as well as pull heavy loads from time to time. Let's just say that I am familiar with its tolerance before it starts to burn. :blush:
  • my forrester is a Diesal 1998cc I had been in cruise control for half hour pulling a caravan at 50 miles per hour. No braking or accelerating on the inside lane of the M40. First noticed reves increased then smell 1 minute later when we drifted to a stop - no warning at all!.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,269
    Ah, yeah; we don't have that drivetrain on this side of the world, so I cannot help there. How heavy was the caravan? Sounds like the added weight and the engine torque combined to disappointing results....
  • The Subaru was bought specifically for this job. The caravan is a two wheeler and was only used four times per year for journeys of less than 200 miles. Weight 1145kg.
    Just for information here is my letter to Subaru M.D. 15/9/2012. I await a response. Thanks for your interest.

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    Dear Sir,

    I am the owner of a Subaru Forrester MF09 GXJ which I purchased from M Kar SUBARU on the 5th August 2009 for the purpose of towing my caravan. This demo model had a mileage of 3500.

    On the 6th September 2010 without any warning on a four lane roundabout the clutch suddenly overheated and burnt out. It was agreed from the evidence that this was a mechanical failure and not due to misuse by the driver. The clutch plate and casing with photographs was returned to Subaru for examination by the franchise agent. - Mileage 10,600.

    I was repeatedly reassured that this situation would not reoccur A ECU Configuration was done on 14/6/11. This was after a routine service by the agent earlier on 7/2/11. A further service was done on 16/3/12.

    On the 10th September 2012 whilst travelling on cruise control for the preceding 45 minutes on the M40 in Oxfordshire the clutch started to slip and the car came to a standstill. The AA rescue person remarked “oh its another Subaru” When I questioned him about this he said he had three such cases recently but there weren’t many on the road yet. The £500 rescue by the AA retuned us to the nearest possible place to home. Repairs revealed that the clutch and fly wheel had been completely destroyed. Mileage reading 22,800 – 12,000 miles and two years after the first repair.

    I telephoned and spoke to Mr Adrian Hogg at your head office customer care centre, and he said that you had not had any cases of failed clutches at all so it was driver error. – It had to be a mechanical fault or faulty driving and there were no mechanical problems experienced. I mentioned my experience in 2010 which Subaru were aware of and the cars reported by the breakdown man but he simply replied that it would have to be proved it was mechanical failure by the agent and even then any recompense would be very unlikely as the car had just passed it’s three year warranty. Even so the repaired clutch had parts which had failed after two years and were still within the warranted three years!



    In consideration of the nature of the failures I am convinced that there is a fundamental cause for these failures, and that the final collapse is the result of short periods of excessive wear of which the driver would not be aware. It is also apparent that a clutch failure will reoccur after a further 12,000 miles unless some fundamental cause is discovered and corrected. Without this I will inform all members of the caravan club of my experiences, and seek outside expert advice.

    Having spent in excess of two thousand pounds in recoveries, repairs and parts in the duration of 12,000 miles of motoring I would enquire if you have a good will policy? I would also point out with all the available evidence this machine is without any doubt not fit for the purpose for which it was sold, unless it is subjected to a radicle clutch modification.

    In conclusion I would very much appreciate your opinion on this situation.




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    #3729 Re: merlinhorse1 [merlinhorse] by xwesx Sep 17, 2012 (10:07 am)
    Ah, yeah; we don't have that drivetrain on this side of the world, so I cannot help there. How heavy was the caravan? Sounds like the added weight and the engine torque combined to disappointing results....

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  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,269
    Excellent approach. I am interested to know how it plays out. Perhaps we will be fortunate enough to have the diesel boxer added to the lineup here (sans issues like these, perhaps?).

    Best of luck to you.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Weight 1145kg

    That's actually above the tow rating for here in the USA, but I believe they're higher in Europe, 1800kg IIRC?
  • My Maximum Total Pay Load MTPL 1350 KG giving a user pay load of 205 Kg
    Subaru acknowledged my letter - said it had been logged, they very much valued customer feedback and appreciated me bringing the matter to their attention, and would be in cotact shortly!
    Good job my Nissen Primera 2litre diesal car with I used to pull the same caravan and others for five years has never had clutch problems, and was there to complete the journey this time!. This should help to eliminate the cause being "Driver Error" I think.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Yeah, it should be able to manage that load, then. Let's hope they assist. Keep us posted with updates?
  • p0926p0926 Posts: 4,423
    Well after looking on and off at new cars for right about a year, I finally placed an order on a 2013 Forester on the last day possible. Subaru cut off factory orders a week ago in order for them to retool the assembly line for the 2014 redesigned Forester which goes on sale in November in Japan and in early 2014 in the US. Yes you read that correctly, the 2013s which only hit the lots in August, are already on the way out.

    Based upon the early leaked info on the 2014s, I think I'm okay with getting the old model. While it never won any styling awards, I've always liked the utility-oriented body style and dislike the current trend towards swoopy and rounded with its associated loss of interior volume and driver visibility.

    So anyway, this will be my 3rd Forester and will make it one from each generation. And who knows, maybe I'll get the next generation Forester in a few years when Subaru finally brings the STi version to the US ;)

    Frank P.
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