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2009 Subaru Forester



  • batman47batman47 Posts: 606
    The paint chipping in the 2008 Outlander has been solved by Outlander owners using a simply mudflat (front and rear). See,

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  • tkaytkay Posts: 99
    I had the same problem, but I used KMGuy magic foam,available on E-bay(reasonably priced)
  • birdboybirdboy Posts: 158
    Car buying never seems to be game free. Can someone offer me a site besides Edmunds, and KBB to check on the trade in value of my 06 Passat. There is a 3 thousand dollar difference between the two and the dealer wants to use the lower . Also has anyone paid Invoice or less for the 09 Forester llBean edition. Thank you all for your help,
  • p0926p0926 Posts: 4,423
    Hey what a great post! Too bad it's not in the Outlander topic where it belongs :confuse:
  • p0926p0926 Posts: 4,423
    Car buying never seems to be game free

    Nope and probably never will be.

    Can someone offer me a site besides Edmunds, and KBB to check on the trade in value of my 06 Passat.

    There's an online NADA appraisal site that you can use

    Also has anyone paid Invoice or less for the 09 Forester llBean edition

    FitzMall is selling them for $200 over invoice.

    Keep in mind that how high (trade-in value) or how low (new car price) a given dealer will go depends on many variables. The most important one being the law of supply and demand. I.e. if the dealer thinks someone else is willing to pay a higher price, they have no incentive to sell it to you for less.

  • tkaytkay Posts: 99
    On the Fitzmall site they have a trade in link. This might help in pricing your vehicle. You may also want to try Craigslist..sold my car in 2 hours,and $1500.00 more than the trade in.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    He was responding to me, Frank.

    Basically he's had a perfect experience with his previous car, and expects the same thing from his next car. I gave an example of how no vehicle is perfect (unrealistic expectations).

    Those mud flaps look sweet, that vehicle is Rally Cross ready! :shades:

    Not sure I'd want that on road going car, though. They stick out way too much and the color doesn't match. It might also create more wind resistance (noise, lower fuel economy).

    Forester has factory mud flaps that are more custom fitted.
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,652
    I still don't like the fact that your Nuvi is blocking the air vents. No mater where you mount it, it's going to block something.

    While the screen on your Nuvi is large for a portable unit, it's still not as large as that found on a built-in unit.

    Selection? I'm not sure I understand that comment? Are you referring that it's only available on premium trim models? If yes—I agree. I'm hoping some carmaker will make this feature even available on base trim models.

    As to the sport grille on the Forester. I did see one in person, and it does look good. IMO it's the "only" Subaru sport grille that looks good.

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Bob - by selection, I meant the current models in stock right now. They did not have a single LL Bean sans GPS.

    They said the LL Bean was in demand, big time. They've sold every one they've had so far. It's the most popular model.

    Makes you wonder why Subaru is discontinuing their relationship with LL Bean, come to think of it.

    The Nuvi does sit in front of the vent but we had the A/C on and it didn't seem to be a problem.

    Check out the screen brightness and glare - the Nuvi is actually better (though to be fair I did not adjust it).
  • red927red927 Posts: 118
    I also drove a LL Bean this weekend. I was pleased with the way it handled. There was plenty of legroom for the driver. I sit with the seat all the way back and when I sat in the rear, my knees did not hit the front seat ( I am 5'-11'). The view to the rear was clear with no real blindspots as opposed to the CR-V. Power was fine, though I will have to get used to driving a 4 cylinder again after 6 years with GM 6 cylinder engines. My wife drives an Outback LL Bean sedan and it has plenty of power.

    The lease on my present SUV (Buick) is up in June and the dealer is going to locate one in Dark Grey for me. He is going to try to swap a black one he has on order. It should arrive the second week of June. It will be a Limited since that is all that is being shipped right now. No NAV, as I also have a Garmin.

    Not exactly sure of the price, but I have been dealing with the same small dealer since 1992 and they have always been very fair. He is supposed to call me today or tomorrow with the final numbers. He stated that they came out with a very high residual on the car and the interest rate is not too bad. We shall see.

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    So we are competing for the few LL Beans that are out there.

    You get the gray, I call dibs on either of the silvers or the blue. ;)
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,652
    Whether it's sold as an LL Bean or as a Limited, that won't matter, as the only difference will be the badge on the rear hatch. It's the content in that package that people are responding to, not the name.

    Also, with in-dash nav units, don't you have to program it first? By that I mean—even though it may be selected for the east coast (or Maryland), it may not know where the actual car is. I could be wrong, but I believe you have to do something to let the nav unit know where this vehicle is. If that's the case, that would explain as to why it couldn't find your address etc.

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Hope so.

    I happen to like the store so I have no problem with the logo. I have an LL Bean spring jacket, the kids have winter jackets from them. It's all very high quality stuff, IMO.

    Have you checked out their stores? They're pretty cool. They have a really nice outlet store up in Hagerstown Premium Outlets.
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,652
    There's one in the Columbia Mall. It's a staple of mine when I'm X-Mas shopping. :)

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Same here.

    There's one at Tysons Corner, and outlets in Hagerstown and also in Rehoboth Beach, DE.

    No sales tax in DE! wOOt!
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,652
    Did you read my updated comments about the nav not being able to locate your address? Doesn't the nav need to know exactly where the car is before you can use it? Isn't this something that the owner (or dealer) has to do before you use it? If that wasn't done, that could explain as to why it could find those addresses.

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I think you have to select a Region to get the detailed POI database for that region. That could explain it.

    We looked around for it, but that's the type of thing we'd have to read the manual for. Still, it wasn't intuitive to me. I put in the East Coast DVD, it knew what street I was on. That should have been enough.

    Also, the way the menus are laid out seem to take extra steps compared to the Garmin.

    We would also lose our Favorites (100+), and have to re-enter those one at a time. Garmin lets you back then up to PC, so I can copy from device to device (we do this already). Also, I can enter addresses on my PC, which is easier, then upload them to the GPS unit.

    I guess I'll try to explain it this way. Using a Garmin is intuitive the way an Apple computer is intuitive. Things are just where you expect them to be. There's not much to learn. You can just turn it in and start working. The interface is more natural and intuitive.

    The OE GPS felt more like....SAP. You can do everything, sure, but you have to deal with long, deep menus and think like a crazy German engineer. :D
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,652
    I'm thinking even more specific than that. I'm thinking that you may have to plug in the address where the vehicle currently is, then hit some sort of "activate" button. That's the only way the vehicle and NAV unit will know exactly where it is, and then can base any future directions from that point on.

    I'm no expert here, so I could be wrong; but that makes sense to me.

  • p0926p0926 Posts: 4,423
    Bob- You have to remember that Juice is looking for reasons NOT to like the OE Nav unit ;)

    As to the sport grille on the Forester. I did see one in person, and it does look good. IMO it's the "only" Subaru sport grille that looks good.

    Although I haven't seen one in person, I agree. The old sport grille made the Forester look like a baby Lincoln Navigator. In comparison, the new sport grille looks like it's from the STi parts bin and is a definite improvement over the generic Chrysler one that comes standard.

  • bikerguy3bikerguy3 Posts: 43
    Actually I think it belongs as a Mitsubishi topic, as I just remembered
    back in the early 80's when I bought a new Dodge Colt (which was an econo-car built by Mitsu for Dodge, I believe).

    The car did not have mud flaps, and after driving one winter thru the New Hampshire slush, the paint was completely sand-blasted off the lower side areas (just behind the wheel wells).

    Needless to say Mitsubishi had the "priveledge" ;) of repainting my vehicle!
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