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2009 Subaru Forester

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  • volkovvolkov Posts: 1,302
    That's what I meant by base. Reg 2.5L gas Forester scores 6/10.
    I really wish we had the PZEV in an option other than the Leg/OB. I would happily pay a few hundred extra for personal reasons to get the PZEV. It's just that the car it's coming in isn't my choice. In another one of those "whaaaaaa?" moments, literature for the PZEV prior to its arrival here in Canada indicated VDC on both models. Then the Legacy arrived without it and in fact they are the only Legacies not to get TC or VDC. Felt a little 'bait and switch' to me. SOC says they want to guage customer demand before bringing in more PZEV products, but how can they realistically assess demand for an option if it's slapped on a mechanically inferior product?? At least the OB gets it, but costs $7k more than the Legacy which had been Dra's preference.
    As for me, I'm still a slave to the shipping manifests as I wait to see if my dealer can get a Blue Forester Limited. We can't factory order so we wait.
  • Beautiful Aussie's!! I have a black tri female..I LOVE her!! I've just recently put a AKC Rally NA title on her and almost have her advanced title!

    Rally is pretty neat. I may do that with my oldest Aussie, Crash, who is now 11 1/2 (not pictured). He's still doing agility (he loves it and it keeps him active) but I need to retire him soon and Rally might keep him interested. I used to do alot flyball with Crash and Keeper (the black tri on the right in the pic) but now we just do agility -- alittle easier on the older bodies (Keeper is 7 yo). Gunner, the blue merle, is just starting his agility career, he's 2 yo.

    They are great dogs but alot of work -- they are way too smart and very driven (to make this car-related ;) )

    Anyway, sorry for the off-topic dog discourse, but it's nice to know there are fellow Aussie lovers out there!

    aj
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Well, I don't feel too sorry for you because you guys have had many nice things we never got - like standard heated seats on the WRX, and the Forester Dynastar model.

    Ski rack and brand new skis for something like $300. :shades:
  • VW has this thing called the Euro that keeps tripping them up. Given their huge labor costs, only way to keep things affordable (aside from loosing money) is to save on parts. Sometimes that has clobbered their reliability (new Beetle). But perhaps with Tiguan they had to chinz on lower models' interior. Only time will tell if Tiguan's reliable.

    The '09 Forester XT has slightly better interior than X (there's weave pattern imbedded in headliner, and armrests/door inserts are microfiber).
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Our X Limited is a mix of those - we do not get the nice headliner from the XT, but we do get the microfiber arm rests.

    I guess I noticed the stark contrast - our Forester has comfortable arm rests in every position for all 4 passengers. They put the Tiguan's to shame.
  • The '09 Forester XT has slightly better interior than X (there's weave pattern imbedded in headliner, and armrests/door inserts are microfiber).

    Do you actually like that microfiber armrest covering? For some reason it creeps me out. Of course, I didn't actually notice it until my husband-equivalent did, but now it bugs me.

    BTW, thanks BigFrank for the instructions on re-programming the map lights. I got that done last week, so now I can leave the hatch open without killing my battery.

    aj
  • volkovvolkov Posts: 1,302
    Well, I don't feel too sorry for you because you guys have had many nice things we never got - like standard heated seats on the WRX,...

    Do you know what a car seat feels like at 30 below?? I'm not making any apologies.
  • I owned a 2005 Forester for a year. It was a pretty good car, except that the seats were rock-hard, the gold fabric interior was impossible to keep clean under any sort of hard use, and one had to go to the LL Bean edition to get self-leveling rear suspension and a hard surfaced load area.. I went back to a Chrysler minivan.

    I took some interest when the 2009 Forester was announced, even though SOA appears to be ramming that useless (to me) moon roof down my throat if I want any of the useful options, but decided that it wouldn't be worth the almost 40-mile (one way) trip to my nearest dealer to look at one until SOA offered a 5-speed automatic. I recently came back to this forum and read about the European diesel model. That caused me to visit the Subaru UK site and what I saw there REALLY made my blood boil!

    EVERY Forester model there - from the lowest to the highest - has the self-leveling rear suspension and telescoping steering wheel as standard equipment! Unless and until SOA gets its occidental head out of its corporate backside and offers a sensibly optioned Forester here in the USA, I can quite easily live without their wares. :mad:
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,773
    You must have sat in a different Tiguan than I sat in. Actually I sat in two, and liked them both. I didn't, however, "study" them closely like you did; but my overall first impression was quite positive.

    I do agree that it is pricey, and towing is slightly less than the Forester (2200 I think). I liked the larger tires on the Tiguan, however.

    Bob
  • p0926p0926 Posts: 4,423
    Next time tell us how you really feel ;)
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Yes, I do like that microfiber materials, but more importantly it's well padded underneath, so my elbows have a nice place to rest.

    volkov: brrr.

    It's only now getting cold enough for us to really appreciate the seat heaters. Wifey loves 'em. :shades:

    Bob: did you sample a higher level model? Mine was base. It has cloth seats with manual adjustments.

    Our Forester is loaded but it was still about $4 grand lower in sticker price.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    one had to go to the LL Bean edition to get self-leveling rear suspension

    Name one competitor in the compact crossover class that offers this feature.

    (crickets chirping)
  • volkovvolkov Posts: 1,302
    The other big bust on the Tiguan is that the promised Diesel has no fixed release in NA. Before anyone jumps on me, I am quite positive about the new clean diesel they have developped for the Jetta. I believe that they thought it was underpowered for the Tig, but I'd bet most potential diesel customers wouldn't mind given its efficiency. That plus the fact that in Europe it comes with an even smaller less powerful engine.
  • p0926p0926 Posts: 4,423
    It's only now getting cold enough for us to really appreciate the seat heaters.

    Hey Juice, when did you move to Alaska? Last I checked, DC morning lows were only in the 50s! Even us wusses living in the desert don't use our seat heaters until it gets a lot colder than that :P

    -Frank
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,773
    Base FWD model for me too. The universal complaint about the Tiguan is price.

    All road tests that I've read speak highly of the vehicle, until the MSRP comes up.

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I'm from Brazil, 50 degrees is cold to me! LOL :D
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    That's just it.

    You're paying a Tribeca price for a Forester competitor. So it should be a lot nicer, but it just isn't.

    Mostly, though, it's smaller than we would have wanted. Just get a GTI 5 door and save thousands of dollars.
  • leo2633leo2633 Posts: 589
    Speaking of armrests, does the Forester still have those handy little storage compartments in all four door armrests? I have them on my '01 and find them quite useful.

    Len
  • Nothing for storage in the doors save for the near-floor slots below the armrests, which were apparently enlarged a bit for '09.
  • leo2633leo2633 Posts: 589
    Thanks, Kurt. My '01 has the door pockets, too, but there are also rubber-lined storage compartments, with hinged covers, in the armrests of all four doors. I guess Subaru did away with them. They sure are handy for small item storage.

    Len
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    My 98 had those 4 compartments, too, but they were very small, basically 2 cassette tapes would fill it up (if you're too young to know what those are, I'm not explaining it!). ;)

    They are gone on the 09. So is the coin holder that used to be on the lower left dash, under the steering wheel.

    That's the one I miss. There isn't really a really good place to store change for parking meters.

    I still prefer the 09 overall. That 98 had rock-hard elbow rests. I actually cut up and glued foam from a mouse pad to soften up the arm rests, and they blocked that compartment anyway! :sick:
  • Now that is something the 09 forester could really use. I live in NY and go through quarters for the meters very quickly.
  • p0926p0926 Posts: 4,423
    I forgot all about those storage cubbies in the arm rests (good for business cards and the like). They were eliminated in the 03 re-design but the lower door pockets gained expandable netting so they were much more functional (the coin holder was also retained). For 09 the door pockets got wider and have a place now to hold a bottle but the expandable netting is gone and I don't think the pockets are as long as before.

    -Frank
  • robm2robm2 Posts: 53
    I kind of wish the pedals on the 2009 F-XT (premium) were a little more slanted, and a little less vertical. I have long legs, (36" inseam), and I find I have to pull my foot towards my shin a bit too much for comfort, on long drives.

    I've messed with the seat in every conceivable way. Only other option is to try and mess with the pedals, themselves, and see if it's possible to change the angle at which they sit.

    Anyone else notice this?
  • leo2633leo2633 Posts: 589
    Cassettes? Those are those new-fangled things, right? I'm sticking with my eight-tracks, juice! (Yeah, I'm old enough to have had an 8 track player in my car back in the '70s!)

    Len
  • I got my 09 forester towed in Manhattan :( . I wanted to know if its possible to cause any damage to the car if not towed correctly.

    I picked it up an hour after it got towed and seems to be driving just the same.

    Thanks
  • sgloonsgloon Posts: 323
    For reasons I won't explain here :cry: , I had to replace a wheel and tire on my Forester. So, I got an alignment to go with it...just to be on the safe side. I had to go back 2 more times before the dealer got it right. [And by the way, the dealer is the only place you can get an alignment as Subaru hasn't given the specs to the tire stores, etc.] It was vibrating & pulling right when I first got it back (neither of which it did prior, even with the donut on.) They put more air in the new tire and balanced it. That got rid of the vibrating and some of the pull, but not all. So I brought it back again. They hadn't given me the alignment sheet when I got it done the first time, so I made sure to get a copy (of the first alignment on my second visit).

    In the midst, I wondered if they had actually done the alignment. [There were no "before" numbers on the first sheet, just "actual".] So, I got a new alignment, and it feels way better now.

    Here's the crux. The dealer was blaming me for having to do the 2nd alignment, said I must have done something...gone over RR tracks, potholes, going up in elevation, whatever. NOT! [I have no idea how going up in elevation would cause the alignment to go off. Just makes no sense to me. I think he was grabbing at straws.]

    In reviewing the two alignment sheets that I was given by the dealer, I find the that specifications between the two sheets are different. For example:
    Camber: -1.2 to 0.3 on first alignment
    Camber: -0.8 to 0.8 on second alignment

    This can't be right, even if they are using a different machine to align it.

    So, I study the sheet a bit more...and realize that the first sheet says 06 ->07 Forester. The second sheet says Forester:2009

    So, while the dealer is blaming me for causing them to do a second alignment, they actually aligned my car to the wrong specs the first time.

    Think I should go back and make them aware of their error??? Or should I just start using the other dealer in my area??? Is this a common mistake???
  • sgloonsgloon Posts: 323
    pharmd718:

    The owners manual has warnings all over it on how specifically to tow an AWD vehicle. If I recall properly, as long as all 4 wheels are on the ground while it is being towed you are OK. The problem arises when they lift up either the front or rear wheels and leave the other end on the ground. Of course if the tow truck is the kind where they put it up on the bed of the truck, that is gravy!

    I was told by someone here recently that the reputable tow companies are all well aware of how to tow Subarus as they are all AWD. I would think the tow company would be responsible if they don't get it right.
  • sgloonsgloon Posts: 323
    Rob, I don't know if they can do it on the '09... But, when I bought my previous Subaru, many years ago, I had a friend who would be driving the car who was also a 36" inseam, by coincidence. I talked to the dealer, and they remounted the whole seat back further. They did a good job, as he could be comfortable with his long legs and I was able to reach the pedals comfortably with my much shorter legs. I wasn't worried about anyone shorter than me driving the car, but it still had room to move even further forward than I would want it.

    So, you might talk to your dealer. At the time, they did that for me at no charge. I asked for it when I bought the car. And, as the dealer did it, it was covered under warranty.

    Good luck! :)
  • I have been looking for something like this for my forester because in NY they tend to bump into you while parking. Thought others might be interested as well.

    http://www.wooddashexperts.com/customer/home.php?cat=19538
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