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2008 Toyota Camry Problems and Repairs

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  • kiawahkiawah Posts: 3,666
    The engine is lugging, it is in too high a gear, at too low a speed, where the engine doesn't have enough Horsepower and torque to drive the car. You can avoid the situation, by either pressing the accelerator down more (causing it to downshift and accelerate), or to move the gear selector to '4', as opposed to 'D'. Putting it in D, allows it to also go into overdrive lockup....which you are trying to avoid.

    I first noticed this problem on ours, when my daughter was driving, as she is a lot lighter on the gas that I. She just normally uses '4' around the city, and then if she gets on the interstate moves it to 'D'. Works fine for me in D, but I'm winding out the gears further.

    You may also try to change where you get fuel, to see if that makes any difference.
  • barkinsbarkins Posts: 10
    Anyone else have this problem. It seems every time I break hard or accelerate quickly, the seat jolts a bit forward and backward.

    I'm thinking about taking it in, but I've never had any luck with a Toyota dealership actually helping me. It seems they all say same thing, "it's suppose to do that." Go figure.
  • adamw812adamw812 Posts: 32
    the passenger seat back in my Camry ratlles and vibrates when nobody sits in it, I find it annoying, but have done nothing about it yet
  • kiawahkiawah Posts: 3,666
    You have a tire out of balance. Go get your tires re-balanced, and rotated to other positions.
  • adamw812adamw812 Posts: 32
    If you are responding to me, you are incorrect. First of all, I have under 3,000 miles. Secondly, I have had all of the wheels balanced because I switched from the standard wheels to the XLE/Hybrid Alloy Wheels. The problem has nothing to do with wheel balance. What it has to do with is a reclining mechanism that has too much play in it and was poorly designed.
  • topgun65topgun65 Posts: 1
    I recently bought a 2008 Camry Hybrid. The right headlight is dimmer than the left headlight and also appears to be set not at the same level with the left headlight. At night, I can see the light from the left headlight shining a few feet further than the right. When I took the car to a dealership, they said it is normal and is designed as such. Does that sound legit to anyone?
  • 210delray210delray Posts: 4,722
    Not likely; I'd try another dealer. The fact that the car is a hybrid would make no difference from any other Camry.
  • dec426dec426 Posts: 4
    Purchased new 2008 Toyota Camry LE 4 Dr Sedan during October 2007. Encountered serious transmission problems at 40MPH and 60MPH. Contacted Toyota, Torrence California and was assigned a case number with "NO FIX IS AVAILABLE."
    I filed a request for arbitration under the Ct. Lemon Laws. During June 2008 Toyota
    complied with the Arbitrators ruling and refunded my full purchase price.

    Appealing to a higher authority does have merit.

    It is, however, a shame that Toyota forced me to obtain a legal solution and that does NOT help to enhance their reputation for quality, reliability or service.

    Buyers Beware!!
  • dezraldezral Posts: 20
    Hey dec426. I have a 2008 Camry LE like you that I purchased with 29 miles on it in November of 2007. I am having the same problem with the transmission or the computer in the car. I have had it in 2 dealerships and they told me it is a "normal characteristic of the car". What a load of crap! I am also filing for arbitration. They are suppose to call me and set up a time for an oral hearing at the dealership. Do you have any tips for me??? Did you have a lawyer present with you or did you do it your self? Did they give you a choice as to wether you got your money back or a different car? Thanks for your help!
  • dec426dec426 Posts: 4
    dezral: I contacted the Department of Consumer Protection and they sent me a chck list of required items. The application has to be notarized. I opted for a oral hearing without a lawyer. Have you contacted Toyota USA, Torrence Calif.? Outline the problem, Contact the Toyota Field Specialist from the State where you bought the car, and have at least 3 failed attempts from dealers for repair. Itemize all these things in the request for Arbitration required documents. A filing fee is also required. Be able to verify what you say with work orders from dealers etc.
    A reliable witness that can verify your problem might help, one that has driven your vehicle and can express the problem encountered.

    Im my opinion it is worth the effort. Hope this helps. DEC
  • dec426dec426 Posts: 4
    dezral: PS: I requested a full refund vs a replacement vehicle. The arbitrator
    takes all the statements etc and has 10 working days to render a
    verdict. If granted, Toyota has 30 days to reply. Hope tis helps.
    dec
  • dezraldezral Posts: 20
    dec426,
    I also contacted Toyota in Torrance, CA and they called me and told me to send the arbitration form that was in my owners manual to the address in Mount Clemens, MI. I sent all documents to them and one of their reps call me a couple of days ago and asked if I wanted an oral hearing or just send in paperwork, I opted also for the oral hearing. She said that they would call me back within a week or so and give me my appt date and time with the arbitrator. But, I didn't get a checklist like you. How do I get ahold of the "Toyota Field Specialist" in Oklahoma (where I am)? I took it to the dealership(s) a total of 3 times/5 days. The only thing they did was I took them for a test drive, they did feel/hear the vibration. They contacted Toyota, who said they couldn't do anything. I then took it to another dealership locally and they reset the memory, which didn't work. I took the back the next day, they kept it for 2 days and then also told me it was "normal". Do those count as "failed attempts", they told me it was a "normal characteristic" for these cars?? When do I pay the filiing fee and how much is it? I wasn't sure if I could use a lawyer or if I should just bring my husband and his best friend who would be my witnesses. I also didn't get anything notarized. ~~~Dezra
  • dezraldezral Posts: 20
    dec426,
    Why did you want a refund instead of a replacement? See my deal is, I traded in an 2006 Mustang for this Camry so I am upside down on it. Do you know how that would factor in on the refund? I need you to help me get all my ducks in a row so that I can win this case...I would like them to give me a Camry that does not vibrate, which apparently isn't a 4cyl LE, would they do a 6cyl or something or do you have a clue? I am sorry, I don't mean to be a pest but nobody seems to know how this process is and I am so furious that Toyota is saying its "normal" when it isn't! ~~~Dezra
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    Be careful...

    Keep in mind that in many of these "cases" the dealer service manager will often have been instructed in advance to keep the "question/problem" verbal, NO written record. I have even had instances wherein the service writer had obviously been given a "heads-up" and rather than continuing the service write-up handed me off to the service manager.

    I even had one case, Porsche, wherein upon this hand off to the service manager the service manager actually ripped up, destroyed, the write up that had already been completed after telling me "that's the way it was designed".
  • dezraldezral Posts: 20
    wwest: I am not sure I understand what you are saying. I have a written letter from the dealership I purchased the car from, after I took him on a test drive so that he could feel that vibration. I have written proof that he felt it. Is this what you are talking about or no?
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    Lemon laws in many states require that the dealer be given three opportunities to repair the flaw. I was simply pointing out that it might be difficult to obtain written records of these three "attempts" since the dealers will be reluctant to put such things in writing.
  • dezraldezral Posts: 20
    Oh ok, I think I understand now. Thank you wwest for your help. If you can think of anything else that might help my case, please let me know.
  • dricharddrichard Posts: 7
    I spoke with the Owner at my dealer today about the vibration issue.....

    He told me that Toyota has issued a fix for "Shuddering at 56-72km/h (35-45mph)"

    It involves re-programming the ECU, and he says it will take less than 1 hour to fix.

    LET'S ALL HOPE THIS IS THE SOLUTION WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR!!!!!!
  • dezraldezral Posts: 20
    drichard:
    I took my Camry to 2 dealers ships, one reset the ECU which did not take very long but on the way home, it started the vibrations again and has been doing it since. Sorry to tell you, but it will not help. I am taking mine to an arbitration hearing at the dealership July 9th. Maybe you should file for arbitration and see what it can do for you. Toyota knows what is happenening with these cars, they just don't want to deal with it and take the time and money to recall these transmissions! Good luck!
  • dricharddrichard Posts: 7
    dezral:

    Did you have your ECU reprogrammed? or reset? I was told that they have a "new" program for the ECU and that it has only been available for a week or two now. When did you have yours done?

    I'm not trying to discourage you from filing for arbitration, I would have done the same months ago, if that legal route was available in my area.
  • dezraldezral Posts: 20
    drichard:
    The ECU was "reset" back on April 29th. That was the only choice they gave me. I took it back the next day and that is when the dealership called Toyota themselves and they said that it was normal and that there were "no fixes". I then filed for arbitration a month or so ago, so I am definately preceding with that. It is legal in Oklahoma (where I am from). I will let you know what happens after my hearing. All I have been told from day 1 was that there was "no fix" and that it was a "normal characteristic" for my car. Sorry but I don't by that, any vibration is NOT normal, especially on a brand new 2008 Toyota Camry and they are telling me it is. Please let me know if the "reprogramming" of the memory works for you. So your state does not have a Lemon Law?? I have had my car in the shop and even took it to a transmission shop 3 times for a total of 5 or 6 days. The transmission shop said that there was something wrong with the converter and it was not normal. Good luck!
  • mcdawggmcdawgg Posts: 1,668
    You had the reprogram done before the latest TSB, which addresses this problem. Sorry to hear you had to get to this point before they came out with the fix.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    It is not very likely that a dealer's service department would have reason to reset the ECU, ONLY reset the ECU. They would know, undoubtedly, that a reset, alone, would only result in a temporary change in ECU operation.

    It is even possible, quite concievable, that the service technician used the term "reset" when really meaning "reflash".
  • dricharddrichard Posts: 7
    mcdawgg:

    Do you have an '08 4cyl. Camry that successfully had the ECU re-programmed? I've not had mine done yet, so I'm still skeptical.

    dezral:

    I don't blame you one bit for proceeding with arbitration, Toyota OWES you a full refund on your car, in my opinion! Good luck.
  • mcdawggmcdawgg Posts: 1,668
    No, but on Toyotanation website lots of people report that it works. I have an '07 4 cylinder, and had some hesitation. I had a TSB done last fall that took about 1/2 hour and fixed the hesitation. One of the new TSBs is said to replace the one I had done, and is reported to be better than the TSB I had done. The other TSB, if I recall, is for the vibration. I only had the hesitation.

    In summary, check the other website, and get the TSB done - you'll like the results.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    Be careful...out there.

    When a reflash is done, or a simple reset, the engine/transaxle ECU's factory default parameters are loaded instead of the myriad of parameters your car has adjusted, been continuously adjusting via the "learning" process, since it first rolled off the factory floor.

    And forget, PLEASE, the old wives tale about the car learning YOUR specific driving techniques. Yes, it does learn and adapt to a few driver "habits" but it ERASES those each time the engine is restarted.

    But, for the first 500 miles or so after a reflash or ECU reset it will be restoring many control parameters as it learns the tolerances and recalibrates the systems accordingly.

    So, did the reflash work...!!

    You'll only really know after about 500 miles of driving.

    But my answer to that question is no, a resounding NO...!!

    Otherwise why would many '08 & '09 Toyota and Lexus FWD and F/AWD vehicles have a NCF, New Car Feature, that reacts to the lifting of the gas pedal in different ways depending on the RATE at which the gas pedal pressure is removed..??

    All in an effort to avoid, more often avoid, two gear changes in quick sequence.

    Now YOU get to learn how to manage the gas pedal release rate in order to avoid, mostly avoid, the 1-2 second transaxle downshift delay/hesitation.
  • dezraldezral Posts: 20
    drichard or anybody,
    Did you have yourECU reprogrammed with this new update? The Toyota dealership that I have my arbitration hearing through called me today and told me about it. I was wondering if it worked for you or anybody else. I am not sure if I go ahead and have them reprogram this if it will hurt my arbitration process, it is July 9th. They said it was no guarantee. Please let me know!
  • dezraldezral Posts: 20
    wwest,
    Please read my new reply post. You seem knowledgable, this poor lady needs your help!
  • dricharddrichard Posts: 7
    dezral:

    I had mine re-programmed yesterday. I've tried driving in "D" at 40 MPH, just like I described in my first post; I have been unable to get the vibration to happen.

    I'm very pleased that the ECU reprogramming has worked for me, but please keep in mind that I have only driven 60 miles since the reprogramming so far.

    ............. so far it seems to work!! :)
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