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Nissan Xterra Manual Transmission Problems

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  • I spent an hour on the phone to the guys at Jim Wolf I highly recommend to anyone giving them a go. True Nissan put a smaller clutch in a vehicle designed to take a bigger one. Thanks for those numbers, the calculated difference is nearly 35% more surface than the JWTand better materials. For those that don't understand materials, it doesn't mean it will last 35% longer, it means that you have 35% more safety margin before the clutch goes beyond the temperature of no return. It could mean the difference betwen 30k and 300k. I took Nissan to the automotive funded arbitration facility in Canada and for the skeptics that think they are biased, they ruled in my favour!!
    xterraclutch@hotmail.com
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  • 2008 Xterra Off Road. You would think that a product that has off road in it would have a clutch that did not burn out at 44,000 miles. Even if you did a lot of off roading, which I did not.
  • Clutch failed completely on my 2007 Off Road at 20,500 miles. With 56 years of driving manual transmissions almost exclusively I have never had a premature clutch failure like this.
    After reading the comments on this site and others I bypassed talking to the service reps at the dealer and went directly to the service manager and the general manager, who I had dealt with when I bought the truck.
    No problem in getting a warranty repair. Service manager pointed out to me that the powertrain warranty - 60 months or 60,000 miles - included the clutch cover, which is Nissanspeak for the pressure plate. I didn't get to see the actual parts, but the repair paperwork described the clutch as inoperative because of "defective pressure plate, one of the prongs was bad".
    Parts replaced were the clutch disc, cover (pressure plate), and the release bearing.
    Told me that they had also ordered a replacement flywheel, but the original was not damaged and didn't need replacement.
    This experience leads me to suspect that the problem with obtaining warranty repair may lie as much with a particular dealership as with Nissan corporate.
    Certainly I will be on the lookout for any early warning of clutch failure in the future. If it happens again and I have to pay for it I probably will go to a hopefully heavier duty aftermarket clutch.
  • http://www.clubfrontier.org/forums/f8/jwt-clutch-flywheel-group-buy-3-a-65786/

    JWT Clutch and Flywheel combo for only 695 + shipping.... We're trying to get a few more in on this...

    I'm tired of my stock clutch, and the REPLACEMENT stock clutch, going out after only 40k miles. I've driven manual transmissions for 14 years now and "skill" is not the issue...
  • I want to get in on this but I may not be able to wait very long. How close are you to the required ten?
  • Clutch on my 2005 Xterra just failed at about 59K miles-totally unexpected. In this case, very little warning of a problem-one week vehicle was fine, and the next week the clutch was slipping big-time, as opposed to one other clutch failure I've experienced (after more than 100K miles) where ample warning (gradually increasing slippage) in advance of total failure were evident.

    This unexpected clutch problem also happened 1 week before a challenging, difficult 4WD back country trip into Utah that I planned to use the vehicle for. I'm very lucky it failed in the city, and not out there. It would have been really tough to tow the vehicle out with the other SUVs on the trip, or very expensive (like $3000 more or less) to have it hauled out to pavement. But that would by my expense and problem, not Nissan's, eh.

    I've had other sticks and certainly know how to get long life from a clutch-this an inadequate/undersized parts issue, and not a driver issue, as many others on this site have said.

    I found this Edmunds website and see that lots of you'll have this same problem w/ these Xterra clutches. Information sharing is power! Tx to this website, I'm not wasting my $$ on inadequate Nissan replacement clutch parts. This will be a $2K repair, and I dont want to go thru this again in 30-40K miles, and risk a breakdown in some remote, hard to get to place.

    On 4/19/11 I ordered JWT replacement parts, at about $1000 (clutch, flywheel, TO bearing, bushing) total. Can I get in on some kind of group discount w/ others who have this problem, for these JWT replacement parts?
  • mysportmysport Posts: 19
    2006 MT Well after 3 clutches (3rd done at aamco), failed gas gauge (got $ back when recall finally happened), faulty electric window (body shop repair), rear diff/trans repair ($2300 at aamco). What an incredible experience - even with previous american cars it wasn't this bad from product to service to 'customer service' WOW. Nissan, hard lesson learned. - getting another toyota and cannot wait! :lemon:
  • dustidustidustidusti Posts: 2
    I am now on my 3rd cluth for my nissan off road xterra 2008. The last clutch went out under 4,000 miles. In my 25 years of driving a stick, I have only had one clutch go out on my after 187,000 miles. They are says its wear and tear. We are not recieving any satisfaction and may be forced to sue.
  • dustidustidustidusti Posts: 2
    My 2008 off road xterra is siting at the dealership, it needs a clutch replaced. This is the 3rd clutch to be replaced. It has under 23,000 miles on it. This last clutch has under 4k miles.
  • Just had my 2005 Xterra clutch (failed at about 59K) rebuilt w/ Jim Wolf Technology (JWT) repl. parts (see previous message #166 about my clutch problem).

    It took about 4 weeks to get the JWT clutch parts (I elected not to throw good money after bad on more quickly available, but inferior undersized Nissan replacement parts). Ben w/JWT seemed pretty familiar with this Xterra clutch problem issue.

    Total cost parts and labor (new clutch installed by a local independent garage) around $2K.

    So far so good on the new clutch. Hopefully I wont have to go through this again as long as I have the vehicle. I'm also replacing the basic pretty lousy sound system with an after-market upgrade. Starting to wonder how good overall this Nissan product really is. Time will tell.
  • agatkaagatka Posts: 4
    Just filed the complaine with nhtsa.dot.gov about my clutch that failed last year at 20 KM on my 2007 xterra. I hope the govermanet will help us consumers to get NISSAN to take care of this problem.
  • Hi, I'm new to this thread, but wanted to add my experience.

    I purchased an '06 Xterra 6spd Off Road Edition a little over a year and a half ago.
    I bought it with 40K miles on it and in 1.5 years I have put 26K more miles of virtually
    all highway driving. I had read earlier posts about the short lifespan of the clutch and babied
    it around town religiously and have yet to have the chance to tackle anything tougher than a few inches of snow. Well, with no warning it started slipping very badly this morning and I drove
    it straight to a trusted independent transmission shop. Well, the clutch is definitely toast. I guess I should consider myself lucky to have gotten 66K miles out if the factory clutch, but still that's a absolute disgrace that it should last that little time.

    The transmission shop said they have seen a number of these and that the clutch is woefully undersized for an suv and is smaller than some 4 cylinder FWD clutches they see.

    Anyhow, we talked about an OEM clutch, but they strenuously argued against it even though it was more expensive. With their reccomendation, they are going to install a Luke brand clutch that the shop paid $394 and will charge another $700 in labor, including re-surfacing the flywheel. I asked about a Centerforce, but they said they would reccomend switching to a single mass flywheel if I were to go that route and didn't reccomend it unless I was towing or doing alot of off-roading or the flywheel already needed replacing too. He did say that would be probably last "a little bit longer" , but a the expense of the smoother engagement of the dual mass flywheel. I looked into the JWT clutch too, but it would be at least a week to get one. I was told that the Luke brand is only sold direct to transmission shops and you would have a tough time getting one via retail. The mechanic claimed he has put in over a hundred of the Luke clutches in Fronteirs/Xterras and has only seen one come back for replacement. This is just one mechanics opinion, but I and several freinds have had excellent expriences at this shop. He even put his supplier on speaker so I could hear the prices being discussed and watch him write down everything to calculate the total quote.

    On another note I called the local Nissan dealership for a laugh and asked what they would charge. First they insisted that they knew the flywheel would have to replaced as well as the clutch and this would cost at least $2600. I insisted on just repalcing the clutch and they said $1900 plus they would have to mail my flywheel out to be re-surfaced for another "Several hundred in shop fees and shipping". This is the same dealership that charged me $400 for a brake service on my wife's G37 and then informed me at checkout that is was "$400 per axle"
    Needless to say the ensuing screaming match in front of other waiting patrons resulted in a deduct.

    I just bought the wife a brand new Murano and she loves it, I love my Xterra too. Nothing else has gone wrong and it has been a great car. That being said, one more service experience like this and the CEO will be getting a letter about why we sold our Nissans and went back to 4 Runners. My last one, a 99 went 285K miles with zero unscheduled maintenance and zero mechanical or electrical failures.

    Anyhow, just wanted to share my experiences with the other disgruntled owners out there. I will report back in a few months on the Luke clutch and tell you how its working out.
  • Did you happen to purchase the JWT single mass Flywheel along with your clutch? My stock Nissan unit has a solid 3 inches of play in it after only 60K miles! That is just ridiculous. The cheapest dual mass unit I could find was $550 and Nissan wants just under $800 for their OEM unit. The JWT single mass in $450. Anyhow just wondering if you bought that too as I'm guessing you did from the $2K you invested. Anyhow, just curious on what the change to a lighterweight single mass unit does to the drivability.
  • Just confirmed with local Nissan Dealership that the Dual mass Flywheel
    is also a general wear item and is not covered under the "60K Mile Powertrain Warranty". A $780 wear item has got to be some sort of record.
  • I purchased the JWT flywheel LVQ40-NF000, and clutch assembly LVQ40-NC000, per my invoice. Took 3+ weeks to get it (flywheel was the holdup). Cost was just under $1K, and they included a TO bearing and bushing, and included shipping.

    New clutch setup seems good so far. It was installed by a local independent shop that didnt get things totally right the first time and I had to take it back for minor glitches. Clutch pedal pressure seems lighter, a little surprising given that this is a heavier-duty clutch than the OEM stuff. Its a different feel, and a bit more abrupt and jerky than the Nissan clutch, but just a matter of getting use to it.

    Gave the "X" a heck of a workout this weekend doing some really serious off-roading. No abuse, just used the vehicle as it's supposed to be designed for. Clutch held up fine. So, so far, so good.
  • Pedal force is amazingly light with the new JWT flywhell and Luk Clutch (Its actually LUK, but pronounced "Luke"". I would say at most 1/2 of the previous force required or maybe even less. It will be "abrubpt and jerky" until your muscle memory adjsuts. This is pretty common with all new clutches as they bite hard. I was worried that going from a single mass to a dual mass would add additional drivetrain vibration and just not be as smooth. However, paying just a little more attention than normal and you can drive it extremely smoothly and there is no additional vibration that I can notice. It revs about the same from what I can tell and the "lightweight" flywheel doesn't seem to make much of difference in that regard. I took photos of the stock flywheel and clutch and will post them if their is any interest.
  • Took the "X: this past week on a reasonable (but challenging at times) above-timberline 4WD trip into the CO San Juan Mtns. Jim Wolf clutch doing fine so far, and I dont expect any addl. problems. Time will tell.
  • The clutch on my wife's 2008 off-road failed within 36000 miles (probably more like 25,000 miles) but I missed the 36 month deadline. We took the car to the dealer at the suggestion of my normal mechanic because of a leaky pinion seal which they thought should be covered under warranty. After inspecting vehicle the Service Manager said that once the 36 month or 36,000 mile deadline has passed, the Dealer needs approval from Nissan to do warranty work. Fortunately, when I first dropped off the Xterra for service, I spoke to one of the Sales Managers about the future purchase of a Leaf and a car for my daughter. After I was informed of the lack of warranty coverage for these problems, I did a significant amount of complaining to the original Sales Manager and then the General Manager. Following this, they agreed to replace the pinion seal as a warranty repair but they said the Clutch is considered to be a maintenance item. I have purchased a Centerforce II clutch which will be installed since the OEM clutch is obviously of poor quality; I plan to have a new slave cylinder installed as well. Originally we purchased the ’08 Xterra because it was the only SUV-Type vehicle with a manual transmission that has adequate towing capability for our 18.5 foot/ inboard bow rider. Most others similar vehicles are the usual “PUVs” that are on the market today. Unfortunately, the clutch was the weak link, although the pinion seal failing at 36,000 miles is a bad sign. Hopefully this improved clutch will provide the needed improvement in performance.
  • My 2005 Xterra is sitting in the shop awaiting a clutch. First went out after 2800 miles. The dealer told me I was riding the clutch. After a lecture he replaced it. It went out again after 58K and they told me it was out of warranty. Now at 78K it has gone out again and left me abandoned 100 miles from home. I am looking at the JWT. Please go the the NHTA website there are not many entries there
  • My JWT replacement clutch is holding up just fine at this point. Replaced the original Nissan clutch at about 59K miles, and now have about 63.5K miles on the "X", or about 4.5K miles on the JWT clutch assembly. So, so far so good on this new clutch.
  • Well as promised we got rid of our Xterra just did a 4th clutch replacement. Engine light kicked on as well - disconnecting the battery for a spell fixed that. Bye Nissan :lemon: , Hello Toyota :P .
  • Parked, my xterra 2010 standard transmission won't shift into any gear. It appears to shift into reverse (I'm trying to back out of my driveway), but as soon as torque is applied to clutch the gears grind and the transmission kicks back into neutral. It was in high 4wd to plow through snow when it entered driveway. Any ideas?
  • Check for oil leaks under the car... i had similar problems on Isuzu Rodeo when I didn't fill enough oil in the transmission case.
  • i have a 2001 nissan xterra. it slightly overheats. after working for about 20 minutes it makes a knocking sound inside the engine as if the engine will knock. How can i solve the overheating and also stop the knocking sound.
  • We had been dealing with the damaged internal TCM for Nissan Xterras. We did not find a logical explanation for the TCM to go bad. We opened the TCM completely and found the nasty stuff that damaged the TCM. See our findings. link Here
  • Most likely you have a piston knock. Some of this engines had problem with pistons. Engine may have to be disassembled.
  • drakeksedrakekse Posts: 1
    I ordered my Xterra Off-road directly from Nissan, it took about 60 days for it to come in. I picked it up in April 2010, just in time for the summer to pull my wake-board boat around! The X-terra is my 4th Nissan w/ manual transmission. Bore this I have owned: 01 Sentra SE(5-SPD), 04 Sentra SPEC-V(6-SPD), & 07 Altima SE(6-SPD). I have never had any transmission or clutch problem with any of these vehicles. So, I think it is pretty safe to say I Know how to drive a manual transmission! That being said, the clutch went out @ 6,500 mi. Thankfully it went out the day before a 10 1/2 hour road trip to Chicago. I took it to the dealership and the Tech immediately thought it was due to abuse or lack of experience, that is until he realize who's truck it was. The dealership replace the clutch under warranty. Fast forward 2 year from the purchase date, the truck has just under 24,000 miles and the clutch is starting to act up just like it did just before it went out the first time. I can feel the clutch slipping as I change gears and the RPM gauge is darting up and down with out me doing anything. Usually you can smell the clutch the few time you ride it hard, but the last couple days I smell it every time I drive it. I have an apt to get it looked at tomorrow, but I'm glad to find this forum and know it isn't just me.
  • No, it's not you.
    I bought my Nissan Xterra S, 2012 last November.
    A month ago, while driving at I-40 my clutch just broke, out of the blue, down hard stuck on the floor.
    I had it towed to Melloy Nissan here in Albuquerque.
    The total miles my odometer recorded was at 2810 miles, you see; I had it for only 4 months and I already lost the entire clutch assembly and the fly wheel.
    My first car was a Honda Del Sol 1992-1997 it was a manual, followed by Honda CR-V 1997-2008 another manual and Honda CR-Z which I drove for a year; another manual; before I decided to trade it in for an Xterra.
    They were still blaming me for the clutch, but they replaced it under warranty because they still can't understand why it broke at 2810 miles.
    I've been reading a lot about Nissan Xterra's pre 2006 and after 2006 regarding bad clutches and it was a big issue, if you just google it.
    I was trying to have them replace my Xterra with a new one, but they wont.
    I know I will have to keep this car, but I will let everyone in the world know I got a lemon. I am also keeping a record of the repairs they made, starting at 2810 miles. I have 3100 miles in it now, gingerly driving it, so that I don't get blamed the next time.
    Definitely will trade it in next year for a Honda or Toyota.
  • stickman409stickman409 Posts: 16
    91K on '06 Off Road and I'm having trouble shifting into reverse. My 4th clutch will be a JWT clutch and fly wheel. Also the cat converter needs replacing. This is my third and Last Nissan.
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