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2009 Acura TSX

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  • A Jetta? have you ever seen a Jetta?
  • biker4biker4 Posts: 746
    The only engine option to be added will be the diesel. If you've seen past/current trends and know the Honda philosophy you'd know rumors of a V6 in the TSX to be just that, rumors.
  • bobgwtwbobgwtw Posts: 187
    Any word on when the diesel will be available? I'm ready to buy.
  • drtraveldrtravel Posts: 395
    better chance of a turbo engine than diesel IMHO.
  • biker4biker4 Posts: 746
    Honda has already confirmed the addition of the diesel for MY10 - the only question is when. I'd guess late in 09 during the regular MY change over. Details should come out during the car show circuit about to get under way.
  • drtraveldrtravel Posts: 395
    I stand corrected - wonder how much power and how much better gas mileage it will get. All we can do now is speculate.
  • biker4biker4 Posts: 746
    I assume close to the Euro Accord diesel numbers - somewhere around 35MPG combined. The EU diesel is rated at 148HP and 258lbft of torque. The mileage will depend on how they change the tuning of the engine for the US (probably for more power) and if the extra smog controls hurts mileage.
  • rihoopsrihoops Posts: 91
    A friend of mine was told by an Acura GM that he expected the Diesels to be here by Spring.
  • bobgwtwbobgwtw Posts: 187
    Great news for those of us who need the economy, but are scared of VW quality & maintenance costs. I'm driving 55,000 miles a year and a reliable diesel will save me a couple hundred bucks a month.
  • rv65rv65 Posts: 1,074
    Well that plan has been scrapped for now. The Manual passed emissions but the Auto model has failed for some reason. So they felt that by not having an auto version sales would be compromised. They should just offer it with a manual anyways. So far it may be canceled or delayed indefinitely.
  • rv65rv65 Posts: 1,074
    A v6 model is confirmed at an undisclosed model year. Maybe MY2010.
  • nj2pa2ncnj2pa2nc Posts: 813
    I totally agree. As a previous owner of diesel vehicles I would prefer manual transmission.
  • drtraveldrtravel Posts: 395
    Rumor: TSX diesel delayed indefinitely; V6 is coming, though

    Date: October 23, 2008 22:30
    Submitted by: Jeff
    Source: Anonymous
    Credibility Rating: 6

    Earlier this year at the 2008 Detroit Auto Show, Honda CEO Takeo Fukui announced that 2009 would see Honda's first clean diesel engine to be sold in the USA. Though it was stated that the diesel engine would appear in an undisclosed Acura model, it was all but common knowledge that the TSX would be the first model to get the diesel engine.

    Fast forward nearly 10 months, and we've received an anonymous tip asserting that the i-DTEC TSX has been delayed indefinitely (if not cancelled outright). According to the anonymous sources, the 6MT version of the i-DTEC TSX has successfully cleared emissions certification, but the automatic-equipped version has been unable to pass certification. According to these sources, Acura believes that the demand for a TSX diesel would be greatly compromised if it were only offered with a 6-speed manual, so the decision was allegedly made to put the TSX diesel on indefinite hold.

    That's the bad news. The good news is that a V-6 version is said to be coming soon - it's supposedly being "fast-tracked" to make up for the missing diesel. We're still seeking any details we can uncover on that powertrain.


    "I would say that 90%+ of the buyers would want the auto - but the 10% who want the manual tend to hang out on Edmunds. Noticed the same phenomenon when it comes to BMWs. Acura probably agrees so their is no point in producing a deisel engine for such a small demand"
  • A V6 TSX with SH-AWD for 2010 would be golden. Considering that the TL's increased size and controversial styling could reduce TL sales, I could see an upgraded TSX being Acura's top seller.
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    "A V6 TSX with SH-AWD for 2010 would be golden. Considering that the TL's increased size and controversial styling could reduce TL sales, I could see an upgraded TSX being Acura's top seller."

    Just what we need, a TSX that weighs 300 lbs more and is $4000 more expensive. I'd save the $4000 and get a Subaru Legacy instead.
  • biker4biker4 Posts: 746
    I just don't see a V6 diesel in a TSX. The bigger diesels were meant for the bigger cars and SUV - not the TSX.

    This also means that the I4 diesel is also delayed/dead for the USDM Accord.
  • A V6 TSX with SH-AWD would be what the new TL should have been. A comparably equipped Legacy GT would only be a few thousand less than a TSX, which is not unreasonable given that Acuras have a nicer interior and slightly better image than Subarus.
  • rv65rv65 Posts: 1,074
    I don't think it will have SH-AWD. It might have it. I think they will use a 3.5L v6. The J35 has so variations that they can easily set the power level and be good to go. It's already engineered so it's already in their parts bin. The SH-AWD TSX with a v6 would be quite competitive. Maybe the v6 will have 260 to 270 HP.
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    "a v6 would be quite competitive. Maybe the v6 will have 260 to 270 HP. "

    Competitive with the TL maybe. :confuse:
  • Before everyone gets their undies in a bunch about Acura dropping the diesel... the source of the rumor is an anonymous poster in the MotorTrend Forums. Also, technically, it is easier to get an automatic tranny to pass emissions than a manual because of the computer control vs. human factor. And finally, if you do a search on Acura's site, you will see that they still have it on there as coming out in 2009.

    Honda has invested far too much to fail bringing it to market - and the Euro emission standards for 2011(?) are tougher than California's and Diesels make up 50% of Honda's European sales.

    So please remember the source or the rumor - an anonymous poster... that would be like me coming onto the boards and saying that Honda will no longer have gasoline engines in cars produced after 2009 and will have an all electric/hydrogen fleet.... Neither rumor has much credibility.
  • biker4biker4 Posts: 746
    But after the emmission reason rumor came out there was a bit more believable reason - they haven't been able to get the costs of the engine down enough.

    The intro of the diesel is no small thing - once used, the support must be there for decades to come. If the diesel doesn't work out after a couple of years Honda will be stuck with support costs for years to come - even if they never sell it again.
  • Which interior color looks the best with the glacier blue metallic? The taupe or the ebony? Actually how does the taupe interior look? On some pics the taupe interior looks like a light colored gray, but I always thought that taupe was in the beige family. I figure that the ebony would be easier to maintain.
  • Can anyone give me some opinions regarding the best interior/exterior for the 2009 acura tsx? Which color seems to be the most popular and why?
  • bvdj84bvdj84 Posts: 1,721
    I think the black looks great, and so far the only colors I have seen on the car in person. I have seen the navy blue color, looks okay, a bit too casual for me, but I have never been a big fan of navy blue on a car. I would think the pearl white, red, gray, and the overly popular silver color probably look really nice. The black had tan leather interior, looked very sharp, the leather was a rich creamy tan. Higher upkeep, but the black/black looks very sleek. I could totally see the car in red with black interior! That would be hot! So, lol, not sure on what you would pick, but if you pick a color, go all out in this car, because it deserves a bold color to keep up with its outgoing exterior. Picking silver is okay, but safe, and typical.
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    I'm partial to the Polish Metal/Taupe combo myself. Black always looks good when it's clean. But I've had a black car once, but never again. I'm too old to be a slave to it to keep it clean!
  • Thanks I like that polished metal too. Didn't think about the taupe interior though. I keep thinking about light gray on the Accord and I not a fan of that. Could you describe the taupe for me? I was considering the black interior. All I know is, I don't want the new Accord. It's a nice car, but I am from a small town everyone and their uncle has one. Besides coming from an Accord I want and deserve a change I love the Honda brand and I just want an upgrade.
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    I think the taupe is sort of like a sandy, beige color, but my description may not be 100% accurate. I also don't like the black interior. Just too gloomy looking, and I think a lighter color interior makes the car look more upscale.
  • I like the light interior too, but I am just scared about keeping it clean. I can see myself marking my interior with an ink pen while writing something or my teenager's blue jeans staining the seats. Any suggestions on protecting those light seats?
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    "Any suggestions on protecting those light seats?"

    Require that all passengers ride naked!

    Just kidding! Actually, leather is fairly easy to clean with a good leather cleaner and conditioner. But I agree than a light color leather will show dirt, but to me, that's a small price to pay for the added aesthetics. Of course, it's easy for me to say since I almost never have teenagers riding in the car except my 18-year-old son, but he's so house broken...... :P
  • If you live in an area with hot summers, I would be hesitant to buy a car with a dark interior. Unfortunately, I used to own a black car with a black interior in South Florida. The inside of the car used to be so hot after sitting outside all day that I would burn my hands on the leather shifter and steering wheel.
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