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2009 Ford Escape

desmo1desmo1 Posts: 26
edited March 25 in Ford
Today I was stumbling around the Ford website and found out that the 2009 Escape will have an available 230hp 3.0 V6 and a 6-speed transmission.
YIPEEEE!!!
Go to Ford.com and on the home page you will find a window called "In the News" scroll until you find the "2009 Escape Debut in DC" dated 1-22-08.
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  • bdymentbdyment Posts: 551
    This is great news. Also a 2.5 four cylinder with decent power for regular Escapes and Hybrids. Better mileage from both engines. More sound insulation and smoother ride. Looks like a winner. On sale this summer.
  • Directly from the site;
    The 2009 Ford Escape was unveiled at the 2008 Washington Auto Show. Sporting a 2.5-liter engine and 6-speed automatic transmission that replaces the four speed automatic transmission, the new powertrain is expected to improve the EPA estimated fuel economy by 1 mile per gallon and increase horsepower by 11% to 170 horsepower.

    The new engine is also the new basis for Ford’s hybrid models, including the Ford Escape Hybrid and Mercury Mariner Hybrid. “For every eight Escape and Mariner vehicles we sell, one of them is a hybrid, and the appeal is growing,” says Sue Ciscke, Ford senior vice president, Sustainability, Environment and Safety Engineering.
  • desmo1desmo1 Posts: 26
    A few days ago, I was researching this and found that SYNC will be available in the 2009 Escape.
  • jkinzeljkinzel Posts: 735
    Is the Escape built on a car or truck frame? I’m wondering about the ride and comfort. We are getting rid of an Explorer and want to get a good comfortable riding car, but really like the convenience of an SUV.
    It is hard to get a good feel for a car just on a short test drive.
  • bdymentbdyment Posts: 551
    It is built on a car frame--unit body--ride and comfort is very good for its size.
  • jkinzeljkinzel Posts: 735
    Thank you for the information. Im going to hold out for the 2009 if I decide to go with another SUV.
  • beachdudebeachdude Posts: 3
    I have a 08' Escape XLT FWD with approx 730 miles. I am hearing a "squeek" front the back end of the car when braking. It seems to occur when the car has been driven for a while (warmed up). I have had it to the Dealer twice and they cannot locate the problem nor offer a repair. They have contacted "Oasis" to check for Bulletins with no resolution. I've explained to the Service Rep/Technician that it seems like when the weight of the car shifts from the front to the back as you complete the stop. The car makes the "squeek." The Technician states that he hears a noise that he feels is coming front the back Brakes. He has tightened suspension pieces. But, still the squeek. Has anyone experienced this same issue? And, have you found the fix?
  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    THis car will. be worth the wait.

    THere will be a new 4 cylinder engine and more HP from the 3.0L v6.

    THere will be more NVH insulation.

    There will be upgrades to the rear brake system. The biggest drums in its class.

    Sync will be available along with Ford's next gen nav with sirius travel link.

    Mark
  • bj02176bj02176 Posts: 115
    Lots of brake dust on my 2001 Tribute with rear drums, no brake dust on my 2005 Escape with rear discs.

    Why the biggest rear drums rather than normal discs like every other manufacturer is offering. Who has rear drums anyway, so they can easily win that award. Still I could be mistaken.

    Wouldn't buy a vehicle with rear drums, discs all around or just say no.
  • bdymentbdyment Posts: 551
    Mark: What is the anticipated date that the 2009 Escape will be at most dealers?
  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    Rear Drums.
    Drums have a lower cost of maintenance then discs.

    Rear brakes handle much less of the braking than the Fronts.

    If a car with rear drums has good stopping performance than the disc gives no advantage.

    Mark.
  • zoom_utezoom_ute Posts: 13
    Seems dumb to me they offer drums still...they already have the disc setup from the V6...why not use one common braking system and simplify the assembly line/parts inventory? Plus they are easier to self-service (ie pad/rotor change). As a 2006 Tribute owner with the rear drums I am pleased to read that they have improved brake initial bite for the 2009...but still think 4-wheel disc is the way to go..less fade with repeated use, better for repeated high-speed stops (on the highway), better when towing.

    Otherwise the powertrain revisions are nice complements to last-years cosmetic/safety revisions. 4-cylinder power output sounds just right!
  • zoom_utezoom_ute Posts: 13
    Does the new 6-speed offer manual up/down control, or at least several forward gear choices? I've seen the 6-speed in the Taurus and it's got a laughable D and L position only. I really prefer 5 or 6 manual, but since they've eliminated the manual gearbox with AWD I hope they at least made the autobox somewhat controllable.
  • bdymentbdyment Posts: 551
    Recently I saw a review of the 2009 Escape, can't remember the site, and the writer stated that there was only the D and L position, just like the Edge. Why does Ford continue to do this?
  • jkinzeljkinzel Posts: 735
    I was talking to a local Ford salesman the other day and he seems to think that the 2009 Escape is going to be on the lots by the end of July or first week of August, but they will be early.

    I don’t know about the rest of the country, but in Tacoma, WA most of the dealers seem to have a fair amount of 2008’s still on inventory.
  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    IMHO the only people who take advantage of or want manumatics are people who read forums on Edmunds.

    As both a new Ford and new Nissan dealer I can tell you that no one is impressed by the manumatic feature on the Nissan sedans. In fact most of the time it just causes confusion. On a test drive the customer puts the trans in to manual mode by accident then wonders why the car drives "weird".

    IMHO none of the manumatics actually provide a shift after its requested quickly enough to be anything more than a gimmick.

    NOW Ford does have plans to bring the Volvo developed dual clutch trans offered in Europe to our shores. This trans will be able to shift gears in milliseconds.

    VW and Audi currently offer this style trans and it is the exclusive trans in the Nissan GT-R.

    Mark.
  • jkinzeljkinzel Posts: 735
    NOW Ford does have plans to bring the Volvo developed dual clutch trans offered in Europe to our shores.

    Is this the same transmission VW calls the DSG? I have test driven the Jetta TDI with this transmission and it is very nice.

    Any idea what they plan to put it in?
  • Had similar problem with Ford vehicle. Just soak down ALL rear suspension bushing with a spray lubricant like WD 40 or something similar. You might have to do this three or four times but it should work.
    Good luck,
    Kerm
  • Thanks Kerm,

    After taking the car back to Ford the 3rd time. The squeek still occurred periodically. Then, it stopped and I haven't heard it again since? Hopefully, it will continue that way. And, thanks again for the suggestion of the WD 40.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,755
    took the wife's '04 with rear drums in for the 60k service. the report was that the rear brakes were good for over 100k.
  • Could be the Ford dealer did just that!! I also had a slight squeek from the bushings on the rear stabilizer bar. I loosened the bolts attaching the bushings to the frame and lubed them REALLY good. No problem since. Amazing what a bit of lubricant can do.
    Kerm
  • :shades: Kayser Ford in Madison WI and the Gordie Boucher Mercury in Madison both have a few of the 2009 I4's. I drove the Mariner yesterday, and the Escape today.

    They just have the single D(rive) position on the shifter for general driving. So it revs a bit pealing out into traffic, but the new 4WD 170HP I4 Escape digs in and goes much better than the 09 Subaru Forester I drove yesterday, and gets similar mileage. The Forester had the "manumatic" shift, and it WAS confusing figuring out where to put the darn thing to be in drive. (Was also too uncomfortable for me with my combination of height, bad back/neck. But other drivers of different height and necks would probably be comfortable in the Forester). I also felt that the new I4 has plenty adequate power in general, which could not be said for the 08 I4.

    The 09 I4 Escape does have the L gear for snow/mud, which is all I need anyway here in Wisconsin. And it felt nice to drive in - softer ride than my 2003 Explorer, which I otherwise love. (probably needs new shocks after hauling a 5400# trailer, but a great SUV, totally reliable!)

    Also, Microsoft Sync is available without having to get the GPS computer, etc, for hands-free Bluetooth cell phone and MP3 player use. (Has a USB port for the MP3 players, still.)

    The power seats are very capable, adjust nicely, feel good. Good trim, and very comfortable 2nd row seats.

    I bought the Escape version because Mariner doesn't come in Sport Blue. I'll pick it up in a few days. (The one I wanted was at a different dealer).

    BTW - even though it's brand new, there's a $500 rebate going on!

    :shades:
  • jkinzeljkinzel Posts: 735
    Was it equiped with the 6 speed auto transmission?
  • Yep - has the 6 speed. Seemed to shift very reasonably, without "hunting" like the 08's.

    Unfortunately, the Escape I had made the deal for was on another lot, and we did this at 6 yesterday. When the dealer called them this AM, they had already sold it last night at the same time I thought I was buying it.... so back to ordering now, as I want some features that weren't found in dealer stock. Oh well.... :(
  • jkinzeljkinzel Posts: 735
    This way you get what you want. Keep us up to date on how it goes.

    We were looking at the Escape to replace a 1993 Explorer, but purchased an 08 Taurus Limited instead and kept the explorer for now. We have less than 200 miles on the Taurus, but really like it.
  • 93 Explorer - WOW

    That's what I call durability. We have a 2003 Explorer, too. Best truck I've ever owned. (Used to get Dodges back when I worked on the family ranch summers).

    Hopefully, Escapes will be similarly tough and loved......
  • during my test drives, they were very good. Way better than the '97 Subaru I'm driving now. I think both braking and acceleration were better than the 09 Subaru Forester that I also test drove the same day, with a similar roughly 171 HP 4cyl motor.

    Can't wait till the Escape we ordered comes in. (The one I thought I had bought at another dealer's lot sold the same night to someone on-site).
  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    Dealers are trying to figure out how to order these cars.

    Ford is also having problems meeting I4 demand. The only Escapes I've been able to order for the last three weeks have been 3.0L FWD!

    I have an 09 I4 on the lot and an 09 V6. I actually found that both drive very similar for every day driving situations. All the new ponies in the 3.0 appear to live north of 4,000 RPMs I assume this is where the VVT kicks in.

    3.0 I'm sure will be better with more peeps and gear in the car. Most people will probably find the I4 adequate for everyday driving. It looks like the V6 will be purchased only by premium buyers.

    Mark
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,755
    considering the incentives on the 08 v6 models, it should be a pretty simple decision. :surprise:
  • lkrklkrk Posts: 5
    Those of you whom have bought an 09 keep the posts coming, espically any mod updates. I have my 09 V6, 4x4 limited on the boat heading over here to germany as we speak. I am hoping for it to arrive here any day.... :D
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