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2009 Audi A4

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  • carnaughtcarnaught Posts: 1,579
    What's on the prestige package? What was your mrsp based on the '09?
  • art234art234 Posts: 103
    To answer the questions,

    We ordered the car from the 2010 ordering guide. We don't have prices yet. We are estimating price, and we did negotiate a fixed cost over invoice, with all incentives to me.

    The prestige package now has navigation (3G MMI), but driver assist and the rear camera and park assist are removed and part of an optional package.

    I am estimating the cost of the car to be between $43 and $44K or so, and when it comes in I will review lease rates but actually plan to buy the car.

    I was in the car business for about 5 years previously, so knew basically how to negotiate, and the dealer and I understand each other...

    Now the wait begins...I am really looking forward to this car.
  • backroadbackroad Posts: 12
    What is an accurate source for Audi Financial Services' Buy Rate Lease Money Factor?

    I have found sources only for 15K mi/year.

    Thanks!
  • salexandsalexand Posts: 3
    Mark,
    My wife and I are looking at an '09 A4 Premium+ with the sport package only because we need the lumbar support it provides.
    We didn't like the jarring drive of the sport package and would really like something a tad softer (we already have a 2000 Jetta VR6 with a stiff ride).
    Does the adaptive drive really offer a softer ride if the sport package is taken and the drive is set to comfort ? Obviously I don't expect the drive to be as cushiony as say an ES 350 (the other car we were looking at)..

    Also, do you have any input on when we'll be able to build out a 2010 A4 ? I hear there are some option changes (eg: no driver memory in the Premium+)

    Thanks so much,
  • fglamserfglamser Posts: 22
    I have the 2009 A4 Premium+ without the sport package. It has power lumbar support and the ride is very compliant.
  • salexandsalexand Posts: 3
    Right ? We were looking for dual lumbar support because wifey (who is going to be the passenger most of the time on this!) needs that.

    Forced to go for the Sports even though we don't want it just for the fantastic lumbar support..
  • barryendbarryend Posts: 121
    I took delivery of the A4 2.0, sports, Nav. on Tuesday. It has the adjustable thigh bolsters that pull out from the front of the seat. I drove close to 200 miles. The ride seems less stiff than when I took delivery. If the roads are not bad the ride is great. Trade off is the handling is extraordinary. The body and chassis are very well dampened.

    I suggest looking into an orthopedic or Temperpedic cushion for a bad back

    I have had much more jarring rides on prior cars, including my 2006 Infiniti M35X.

    My concern is flats and wheel damage from the great looking low profile 18" wheels with costly summer tires. It also is dropped 19 centimeters (3/4") lower and could bottom out. I need snow tires or all-seasons to get through the NY winters. Maybe a spare set of wheels too. Because of those concerns I am not sure I would have ordered the sports package again. I may have looked at the Prestige with 18" wheels and bought an after market Nav for $300.00 to cut back costs there. The 2009 Audi Nav. is primitive. Backup camera is great though.

    Dealer tried to sell me wheel & tire coverage. I am still mulling that over. I have to study the exclusions.

    I had two Lexus/Camry based ES sedans in 2000 and 1997. My mother-in-law liked to ride in them and hated my brother-in-law's BMW 750. Sadly she has passed. Now passenger ride comfort is no issue for me. If back problems are an overriding concern an ES would be a good choice.

    The standard A4 with a seat cushion or custom seat may also be considered.

    My 28 year old step daughter drove the A4 this morning and was thrilled. Her last car was a 2006 Jetta GLI.
  • barryendbarryend Posts: 121
    Art:

    You are correct.

    Several bill are pending in the NY Assembly to require inspection for unlawful widow tint, increased penalties, and raising light transmission to 90% from 70%. They also seek an appropriation for buying $50,000 for window tint meters. This is a reaction to an officer being killed when approaching a tinted vehicle.
    http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?by=k&qs=window+tint

    Now that the economy is bad, window tint fines are a perfect source for a new revenue stream.

    Thanks for the advice.

    Barry
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Posts: 5,071
    Comfort setting is soft -- and if you get the 18" sport package, rather than the 19" that I have, the ride is even softer.
  • luvlee824luvlee824 Posts: 4
    I was wondering if anyone had the same issue. I have a 2009 A4 w/ almost 9000 miles and had a squealing coming from the car for a couple months and brought to Audi and finally was told it was the water pump and would be replaced. I thought this was kind of soon especially with a brand new car! Any one else hear of this problem with the new 09 or have the similar problem? Thanks!

    Also my oil light keeps coming on that oil is low! Just had the oil and maintenance done at around 5500 miles. Any remarks?
  • fglamserfglamser Posts: 22
    Yes, driver side only. The seats are awfully supportive without it. You might see if you can get a long test drive to see if the wife likes the regular seats.
  • dmargo2dmargo2 Posts: 17
    I have experienced the same problem and it is a true design flaw of the 2009 A4. I wish I had never purchased this car, as I live in Wisconsin and an open sunroof is awesome but it gets chilly when I lower. The dealer only recommends using the windows..has anyone placed an aftermarket wind deflector or anything else? I'm seriously considering biting the bullet and switching back to BMW which does NOT cause this horrid noise/pressure feeling.
  • jayriderjayrider Posts: 3,261
    Try lowering the back windows a crack when the roof is open.
  • dmargo2dmargo2 Posts: 17
    thanks jayrider....a crack does not do the trick with mine.....but partially open does..which is fine when its 70 out...but really gets chilly when 50-65......and always a fun task to remember to open the windows while coming off the freeway. Clearly is a physics issue, as when its going over 50-60 mph..not an issue. I would not recommend purchasing this car due to this design flaw IF you love sunroofs.
  • jayriderjayrider Posts: 3,261
    Every sunroof I've had in every vehicle I've owned [lots] has the same issue and the same semi-solution. Enjoy your audi and wear a sweater,cap and gloves on cool days. If you really hate the car i'll buy it for 10k cash and suffer the defect with a smile. :)
  • carnaughtcarnaught Posts: 1,579
    When it is cool enough out not to need the A/C but yet you want/need some air, try this. Tilt open the sunroof and open the opposite side rear window a couple of inches. You'll get great circulation with minimal noise and draft.

    (Caveat: this is only good for the driver and not necessarily front or other passenger(s).)
  • art234art234 Posts: 103
    MOST cars have that sunroof rumble. It is created by a turbulent flow of air from the sunroof into the car, and sometimes only opening a back window can disrupt the flow in such a way that it quiets down. My Infiniti does it, among OTHER noises but we won't go there, and my Lexus does it too under the proper circumstances.
  • sje3333sje3333 Posts: 13
    I have recently leased (3 year) a 2009 a4 premium plus. I turned in my 2006 a4 which had the sport suspension option. I find my current a4 has more body roll than I am used to and am willing to give up some ride comfort to increase the cars road handling capability. At the same time I hope to address the cavernous space between the tires and the wheel wells. Since I am leasing the vehicle I would like to try and keep the cost to a reasonable amount. Any suggestions / recommendations would be very much appreciated.

    Regards,

    Steve
  • jayriderjayrider Posts: 3,261
    Since you don't own the car you will likely have to return it to it's delivered specs. Unless, you buy it at lease end.
  • kennynmdkennynmd Posts: 424
    Justv wondering if anyone has any info. on the 2010's? Not so much for pricing, but options, new colors, etc.? I am deciding between an 09 2.0T or an 09 BMW 335i. I am in no rush to buy and will probably wait til the 2010's hit the lots to get the bigger savings in the fall for the 09's.
  • There are a handful of new things and changes for the A4. Most notable are the upgrade of their MMI to 3G and the addition of LED tail lights. This link should take you to a chat room page where one of the entries near the bottom of the page has a link to the 2010 order guide which was released a few weeks ago.

    http://forums.audiworld.com/showthread.php?t=2748301&highlight=2010+order+guide
  • kennynmdkennynmd Posts: 424
    Thanks for the info. I noticed they are removing the Deep Sea Blue and replacing it with Sphere Blue. I wonder how that will look? As you can tell, I am leaning towards Deep Sea Blue if I were to buy.
  • hdtvdslhdtvdsl Posts: 2
    I see from your configuration that you have the sport package AND Audi Drive select. What does the "sport suspension" portion of the sport package do/include? Larger sway bars/different springs?
    Since I saw the '09 A4 at the LA Auto Show the ability to have a car that can be pretty good thru the twisties and refined enough for the wife (with her back pains) on long trips has intrigued me. In our case we want a manual (yes the wife drives a stick) with prestige and will wait for '10 for the Nav with traffic and hard drive. I had a '06 Subaru STI so this would be my sacrifice/compromise. Thanks Keith
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Posts: 5,071
    Sport package:

    19" wheels and Max Perf tires 255 x 35 x 19"
    3 spoke sport steering wheel with paddle shifters
    sport seats
    stiffer AND lower suspension
    larger diam roll bars

    Since I do not have the SLine package there are, other than the wheels, steering wheel and sport seats NO visual cues to the sport package (which I like).

    You get all of the performance bits of SLINE but none of the optics -- no SLINE embossed seats, no sline badges etc -- no rear valence and no chrome trim around the fog lights, etc.

    I love the look and the ride and the drive of the sport package.
  • fglamserfglamser Posts: 22
    I have a minor irritation with my 2009 A4 2.0T with the CVT transmission. I have the front wheel drive model. Often when pulling away after being stopped at a light or stop sign, there is a lag from when I push the accelerator to when the engine increases its RPM. It's a one to two second non response. Is this a "they all do that" sort of thing with the drive by wire control or the CVT tranny? It's a little disconcerting and can be interesting if you mistakenly give it more gas which rockets you into the intersection.
  • jayriderjayrider Posts: 3,261
    Test drive another 09 cvt and the answer may be found.
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Posts: 5,071
    Trying out another one will be helpful.

    However, the tip can do this, but NOT 1+ seconds worth, as it seems the current gen of Audis are hell bent on doing everything possible to reduce fuel consumption.

    I have ADS on mine and I have set it, essentially, for a throttle tip in that is almost instant. Set in COMFORT mode, throttle tip on on my quattro model is a split second less quick.

    Perhaps this is simply that your CVT equipped version wants ever so much to be a miser and therefore is not as "touchy" as you might like.

    Just a thought.
  • bobrob1bobrob1 Posts: 11
    I know that APR has come out with the stage 1 ecu upgrade on the 09 a4 .Has anyone done it .Thoughts?
  • montrotamontrota Posts: 7
    How is the navigation system on the 09 model? I've heard mixed reviews. I know it also comes with a camera which I don't feel is necessary.
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Posts: 5,071
    The camera is one of those things that were once wants and are now necessities.

    Couple the camera with the rear parktronic and once you get used to the wide angle view afforded by the camera/nav screen, you will, I'd wager, be impressed with the safety and bump avoidance these technologies facilitate.

    The new A4's nav is a 3G affair (I have the 2G one, and the integration, voice activation, etc, make even it a joy to use). With 3G you get many improvements that are detailed elsewhere -- but, I have driven a Q5 with the new set up and it is an improvment over the 2G.

    Aftermarket units from the perspective of the touch screen or map updates, etc actually are superior -- but they cannot work seamlessly with the BlueTooth, the sound system, etc -- and of course no backup camera.

    I think the combo is $500 too high -- but I wouldn't have it any other way than the fully integrated factory way.

    Do what you like, do what you can afford or do what you think is "pragmatic and prudent" -- the goodness of the A4 (B8) is still there, but the backup camera and full integration that make the factory unit miles ahead of aftermarket offerings will be missing.
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