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2009 Audi A4

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  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Per the brochure I have for the new A4, the 2.0T 6-Speed manual will be released in 2009.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • "I just went to Audi USA and saw they have the pricing up for the new A4; however, they didn't have any pricing available for the manual transmission. Anyone else notice this? I looked all throughout the specs of the new A4, and didn't see anything eluding to the manual (particularly for the 2.0T under the Detailed Specs under Transmission, all-wheel drive... "

    The manual A4 will not be available until 2009 (according to Audi literature). Now that might mean January or it might be December (but then that would be a 2010 model). So my guess is that the manual will not be out until perhaps spring '09.

    But what's got my shorts in knots is that there will not be a manual Avant. Those dogs! Nothing like paying extra for something that (slightly) slows the car down, hits the mpg, and decreases driver involvement.
  • Thanks Shipo / Byron. Unfortunately, that doesn't do much for me since my lease is up in February. Makes it difficult to plan for the next car especially when there are good deals going on with 2008 models (and not just for Audi). Oh what's a guy to do . . .

    Now the fact the manual isn't coming in the Avant does chap my . . . . well, you know. Not that I'm old enough for a station wagon (although I'm getting close to that age).

    I know we discussed the manual situation ad nauseum, but it does irk me that that manuals aren't released right away. Grrrrr!!
  • numero1numero1 Posts: 4
    Hello all,

    Just ordered a 09 Audi A4 2.0 sedan white exterior with black interior, prestige with navigation. Paid 43k including destination charge for the car, another 4k in state taxes, new plates, dealer prep, etc... Dealer had a base 09 A4 with no led daytime running lights. When I sat in rear seats, there was more room than the Mercedes c350 I sat in a week before.

    I live in long Island, the dealer said he should have the car between September 8-15. I can't wait until then!!!"
  • Congratulations on the new car. I assume you could only purchase it in the tiptronic transmission, correct?

    Anyone else think the price for 2.0T with the prestige package is a little high ($40K listed on Audi's website)? I know it's loaded to the hilt, but you can get a base 335i for $39 / $40K (assuming you just want the base model and want the performance, which most people don't do).

    Anyway, just my 2 1/2 cents.
  • numero1numero1 Posts: 4
    Thank you! Yep, got it in tiptronic transmission.
  • I was gung ho on buying a 2009 Avant. After discovering no manual, tough pricing ($45k?!?), and less than stellar MPG, I scrambled to find a left over 2008 manual full s-line avant. Scored one of two left on the East Coast. Paid about $32k for it. I really hope Audi reconsiders the manual choice.
  • The pricing kills me, especially on the A4 sedan with the S-Line package ($43K). That seems like a lot of money for a four banger.

    I've been calling dealerships in DC, Atlanta, Charlotte, etc to try to find some dealer who knows something about the release of the manual in the sedan outside of 1Q09. Based on my conversations, it sounds like those on this board know more than the dealers. I hate waiting . . . . :)
  • kyh1kyh1 Posts: 3
    Hi bigpapaluke, may I know does your A4 09 comes with S line package at the price of $43k? Or it only comes with prestige package with navigation? I don't know if it is worth paying $43k for prestige package with navigation or should I stick with premium plus package with navigation for a slightly lower price?

    This is my first time purchasing a car so I want to make sure nothing goes wrong. Anything else I should look out for when purchasing cars? I read through several websites on things to take note of but I am not sure if I missed out any important points to take note when buying a new car. It seems to me that dealers are taking this chance to mark up the price for this new model since its rather popular. Guess its difficult to negotiate below MSRP! :(

    And I have problems deciding between either a black or white exterior, any opinions? Thank you guys! :)
  • rjlaerorjlaero Posts: 659
    It's a bummer you have to spring for the pricier prestige package in order to get S line, and it does take it into that lower 40's price point.

    S line is differnet for 09. Last years S line was just more of a cosmetic treatment and larger wheels/sport suspension. The new 09 A4 has true recaro style sport seats, and 19 inch wheels as well. All the seats were the same in the 08 model regardless if it was S line or not.

    The new 09 A4 is not even on sale yet, so there could be some changes to the order guide as Audi finds out what people do and don't like.

    75% of sales will probably be premium and premium plus models. There's a lot fo equiptment in the premium plus model, and it's priced right @ under 37k.

    You can't get an AWD MB or BMW with xenons, dual memory & power seats, bluetooth, sat radio, ipod for 36k. Audi's new 2.0 Turbo is a better motor than either BMW's or MB base V6's.

    Audi has to make up money somewhere, and it's on the higher end options.
  • Bang for the buck with AWD, you're right, Audi is where it's at. And Audi's improved turbo engine is going to be a much more fun drive than BMW's base 3.0L or MB's too.

    For me, the S line is about the aggressive exterior styling, the wheels are hot, and I love Audi's sport suspension. But again, my beef is that in order to get the S Line, you have to get the prestige. And that's what sky rockets the cost to $43K, which doesn't even include navigation (not that I want that).

    So to your point, they may make some order guide changes as sales pick up on the 09s. I just wish they could be more definitive on when the manual transmission become available, and offer more flexibility with their option pairing. Am I asking for too much? :)
  • The A4 that I'm interested in was equipped with the Prestige and the S-Line package. My primary focus is the S-Line, but per Audi, I can't get the S-Line without the prestige. If I added Navigation, I think that's an extra $2500, which would put it around $45K.

    In terms of your question, I would do a comparison on what comes on the Premium Plus vs the Prestige and make your decision that way. The prestige comes with Advance Key, upgraded audio package, park assist, side assist, whereas the Premium Plus does not. So if those things aren't important to you, and you want Navigation, save yourself some money and go with the premium plus. It really comes down to personal choice.

    As far as other things to look for in a car, I would check road noise, braking, acceleration, handling, feel of the materials, location of cup holders . . . but again, I'm uber picky and meticulous with my car purchase. Others on this board look for other things when they drive it. So it really boils down to how the car feels for you.

    Finally, car color . . . honestly, I'm going to go white with mine because based on the pictures online, the white really pronounces the car's lines and gives it a meaty look (especially with the S Line wheels). Black is also hot too, but in pollen season, a bare to clean. Again, comes down to personal choice. :)
  • kyh1kyh1 Posts: 3
    ''Just ordered a 09 Audi A4 2.0 sedan white exterior with black interior, prestige with navigation. Paid 43k including destination charge for the car, another 4k in state taxes, new plates, dealer prep, etc.'' - bigpapaluke

    You previously mentioned you ordered one with navigation and prestige package all at 43k. Does that mean it includes the S-Line package? If you ordered with a prestige with navigation and S-Line package for 43k I think its a very very good deal.
  • That wasn't me - that was numero1. My guess is by the configuration, it was prestige with nav without the S-line. But I would ask him / her.
  • kyh1kyh1 Posts: 3
    Oops, I saw the name wrongly!
  • numero1numero1 Posts: 4
    Yeah I didn't get the S-line package. I would have to wait 3 months to take delivery of the car :(

    I read Audi was having supply problems with S-line components.
  • Does anyone know why the S-Line Package is on hold and when it will be here? I can’t get a straight answer. I have even called Germany. I see that kyh1 said 3 months, but i am being told they have no clue when the S-Line will be available. I hate responses like that from Audi....Your selling a 40K + car and don’t know when or exactly why an option is not available? Very frustrating!
  • Does anyone know why the S-Line Package is on hold and when it will be here? I can’t get a straight answer. I have even called Germany. I see that kyh1 said 3 months, but i am being told they have no clue when the S-Line will be available. I hate responses like that from Audi....Your selling a 40K + car and don’t know when or exactly why an option is not available? Very frustrating!
  • jmd23jmd23 Posts: 13
    3 months is what I'm being told. A dealer emailed me the entire model year 2009 order guide. And in red text it says S-line packages not currently available.

    It's worth the wait -- if you can wait :-(
  • rjlaerorjlaero Posts: 659
    Audi has supplier problems and can't make enough of the 19 inch rims - so no S line are available at this time.

    Probably a 10-12 week delay in ordering cars with S line 19 inch rims.
  • kurtamaxxxguykurtamaxxxguy Posts: 1,721
    But what's got my shorts in knots is that there will not be a manual Avant. Those dogs! Nothing like paying extra for something that (slightly) slows the car down, hits the mpg, and decreases driver involvement.

    Perhaps AUDI USA cannot sell enough manual A4 Avants to warrant the expense of importing them? Subaru killed off their manual trans Forester Turbo for that same reason.
  • rjlaerorjlaero Posts: 659
    You are correct....so few people buy a 6 speed Avant that it's not worth the cost of production to bring it over. The US market is not very eager to buy manual wagons.
  • I just completed a 50 mile test drive in an '09 A4 3.2. It had no options and was stickered at $40K. For context, I have a 2002 A6 2.7T (automatic) I have owned since new. The new A4 has total Audi "identity." It looks, feels, and drives like an Audi. In fact, except for the fact it's just a little bit smaller, it feels almost exactly like my A6. It feels much more substantial than the prior A4. Acceleration is very satisfying, with just a little off the line sluggishness. Handling and ride are great, and the car is quiet. The back seat and trunk are spacious and take the A4 into the "we all can go out to dinner comfortably" mode. It doesn't have the kind of "direct connect" feel I have found in every BMW I have ever driven, that is, it's an Audi. Other than some of the new technology features, e.g., Bluetooth, which is very easy to use, it seems an awful lot like my 6 year old A6, though, of course, tighter and newer feeling. It gets better gas mileage (around 25 according to the computer vs. 21 that the A6 would have delivered on the same route). My A6 listed at $44.5 K in 2002, so the new A4 is a relative bargain. I liked it a lot, but didn't find anything radically new in the car. I will definitely have it on the list when it's time to retire the A6, which has been one of the best cars I have ever owned -- and totally reliable and dependable.
  • I've been driving a 2006 A4 3.2 with lease due in 2 months. Stopped in at the dealer in Charlotte, NC, and drove the 2.0 and 3.2 models. Both cars were black with beige interior and had the lowest trim, hence no sport package. The 2.0 surprised me with its torque. Felt more like my 3.2 and stronger. Quieter too. The 3.2 felt much like my current 3.2 though not as quick off the mark -- probably due to lack of break in on the demo car that had only 120 miles on it. But the 2.0 felt quicker than the 3.2, though I'm not sure it actually was. Also worthy of note is that the wretched lurch/lunge from 1st to 2nd to 3rd gear when in the normal "Drive" gear, seems to have gone away. Seems Audi has adjusted the revs at which these gears change. Curious to see if others have noticed that, too. Can tell much more leg room in rear. Front seats more comfortable as well. New dash layout is big improvement, though did not have many buttons around gear shifter on the low trim level I drove. The speedo dial has terrible scaling on it. The needle hardly moves up and you're at 60 mph, which on my current A4 the same needle position reads about 40 mph -- this is a bad change. Handling was down on expectations, but probably because of the narrower wheels/tires than the higher trims. Don't know if I'm going to get the '09 A4 because the configuration I want is not even available for order with no idea on when it will be. Leaning to the '09 BMW 335. If somehow I did go with the A4, I don't see why I'd go past the 2.0 engine.
  • Really appreciate all of this info as I narrow down my A4 purchasing decision; having a difficult time deciding to go with the 2.0T or the 3.2 V6. Assuming the approx $3k difference isn't a major factor, I want to get the engine I'm going to be happiest with...any thoughts on this?

    Also debating whether to hold out for the S-Line or just going with Prestige and a Sport package and getting my order in.

    Thanks for any thoughts...Audi doesn't make this easy.
  • You and the dealer didn't happen to pull into the Boston Market on Independence Blvd. did you? I was sitting there with the GF and a new black A4 rolled into the parking lot. Someone was test driving it. It is really a beautiful car. My silver '07 A4 was sitting right there. I think this was Saturday. Cheers.
  • Was the Charlotte dealership a popular place to test drive a car? I just got back form there this afternoon. I drove the 2.0T. I thought is was a solid engine, but I can't get a sense of how it truly operates because I am looking at it with a manual transmission.

    Speaking of manual, the dealership just informed me the A4 won't be releasing the car in a manual transmission until the 2010 model. Anyone else hear that? If so, this is pretty much a deal breaker and am going in a different direction since my lease is up in February 2009. Has anyone else heard this discouraging news?
  • Wasn't me. I was there Friday.
  • Here's your problem, which is my problem as well -- you cannot order a prestige trim with sport package just yet because it requires the 19" wheels that are not available. Others on this thread have mentioned supplier-related issues with no known date to resolve. The dealer has no knowledge about availability on this option.

    Question for all -- with the sports package and Audi drive select options, can you only have one or the other, but not both? Seems to me you can't have both. On Audi's site you can't configure a car with sports package (I think a web page error). Any insights? Problem is you can't get paddle shifters with the Audi drive select option, which is what I would lilke.
  • I am located in charlotte NC as well. I went down and looked at the 2009 A4 as well and was pretty impressed. Quick question for any of the Charlotte people? Have any of you had any experience negotiation with Audi of Charlotte? How are they? Right now i am looking at the 09 A4 2.0 or the 2008 Infiniti G35.

    I am gettting the vibe from the sales team at Audi that there wont be much negotiating on the 09.
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