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Toyota RAV4 Burns Oil

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  • arcoxpaarcoxpa Posts: 2
    I have a 2007 Rav4 with 87K. The last two times I've gone in for oil changes my oil light has come right before bringing it in. I am very diligent about oil changes. The first time the dealer thought maybe there wasn't enough oil put in the first time. I took it to a different facility for the next oil change. They told me my oil was nearly empty, and that I should take it back to my dealer. There were no signs of leaks at the dealer, so they had me bring it in for a consumption test. I was told the car was not consuming any oil. However, I checked the dipstick before and after the appointment for my consumption test. I videotaped checking the dipstick before and after with time stamps. I showed the video to the mechanic who did my consumption test. His response was that someone must have put oil in the car since my video demonstrated much less oil before the appointment than after. He told me to come back for my next oil change in 3000 miles (manufacturer recommended 5000K). That certainly didn't address my problem. My warranty is almost up at 100K. I feel like I am being limped along until I reach 100K when they will tell me I need a new half block. Any suggestions? :-)

    Disappointed and Angry Former Toyota Customer
  • valerie27valerie27 Posts: 1
    At 96000 miles, my 2007 Rav4 started buning oil. We had purchased the car new and paid roughly $1600 for the extended warranty. I brought it to the dealer who did a pressure test on it, topped the oil off, and told me to drive the car 1200 miles, then return it to see how much oil the car had consumed. I did so. According to them, my car burned "just under a quart" in the 1200 miles. Toyota considers it "normal" to burn "just over a quart" in 1200 miles. They are refusing to make good on the extended warranty. I decided to have it checked again in 1200 miles. This will bring my mileage up to 99,500. Instead of driving the 1200 miles in as short a time as possible, I am dragging it out this time, hoping that the oil dripping for 6 weeks instead of 3 will make a difference in the amount of oil lost. I am so disappointed in Toyota. I have owned a Toyota for most of my life, and thought they were a stand-up company. Has anyone had any success in getting them to cover the repairs for this problem? Am I fighting a losing battle?
  • brincbrinc Posts: 3
    I have the same problem with my 2008 rav4. Toyota is trying to cover up the oil consumption and the dealership will tell you that the consumption is normal after 1200 miles. The only way to prove their wrongdoing is to take the car to a non Toyota dealer and measure the oil consumption.
    They know about the problem but would cost the company way too much to admit the issue. We should collect all the evidence and start a class action.
  • keyser2keyser2 Posts: 25
    Doesn't look like this is a common problem judging by the number of posts. I have an '07 with 78k miles and use about 1/2 quart between oil changes. I am sorry for the people who have had problems, but not buying a coverup by Toyota. This company has been the victim of lots of accusations, few, if any are substantiated.
  • arcoxpaarcoxpa Posts: 2
    I had a real problem. Took it to a different dealership. They informed me thee was a bulletin out for my engine. It was coverd under my warranty. Valves not seated correctly. I was burning a quart ever 1K. O'Brian Toyota in Indianapolis took care of my problem, and were great. Butler Toyota in Indianapolis told me nothing was wrong. I will not be returning to Butler Toyota.
  • keyser2keyser2 Posts: 25
    The 2013 will be a brand-new design. Look for them at dealerships by September
  • mrs_b1mrs_b1 Posts: 1
    My mechanic found that I was completely out of oil after two oil changes after 3000 miles each. He went online and found the following information from regarding Toyota vehicles from ALLDATA online: “Some 2006-2011 model year vehicles equipped with the 2AZ-FE engine may exhibit engine oil consumption.” It goes on to list some other information. My 2007 Rav4 has this engine. The problem was noticed just after the 60,000-mile warranty. I brought it to Toyota’s attention and they tested it twice after going 1000 miles each time. It was confirmed that the vehicle is consuming one quart per 1000 miles, which the mechanic himself from Toyota said was bad. I was working with Headquarters at Toyota and told them what their dealership said, which was basically that I need a new engine, and they said they would try to work with me to see if there was any out-of-warranty coverage the could offer, but they were unable to offer me such assistance. So now I am stuck with a fairly young Toyota vehicle with a serious engine problem. I am interested to find out if any of these other complaints relate to a Toyota vehicle with this specific engine. Then I would be interested in finding out about starting a class action suit if enough people with this engine and problem could be found out.
  • lizzie07lizzie07 Posts: 6
    Over the last year or so, my husband had been concerned that my 2008 Rav 4 had been burning too much oil. Well about 3 months ago I noticed that my oil light came on.

    We checked and I hardly had any oil at all in my car. I went to my dealer and he informed me that there was a TSP (not a recall on this problem), but they are aware of the issue. Back when the engines were put together for this engine, they discovered that there was a problem with the pistons and the rings.

    I had an extended warranty which covered the $4000.00 that it cost to correct this problem. I can now say that I am happy again with Toyota. Even though I believe that there should have been a recall, (they said it does not warrant a recall because it is not a safety issue). You might as well say that now I have a brand new engine.

    I think that they should be a little more up front with their customers about this problem, but I advise everyone to please be diligent and take the car back to the dealer where you bought the car.
  • snimrensnimren Posts: 1
    Same problem here, 2006 RAV4 I4, 75K miles. Checked the oil level 2000 miles after oil change and it burned 1 quart. Planning now to check every 1000 miles to see how much it consumes.

    How many complaints are required to start a class action?
  • lanie8lanie8 Posts: 4
    I, too, have an oil burning issue with my well maintained 2008 Toyota Rav 4 - This started at approximately 55,000 miles, burning 1 qt every approximately 1,200 miles, which my dealer termed "Acceptable" at that time. Now I am up to 73,000 miles and it is burning about 1 qt every 800-1,000 mi. This is a known issue within certain serial #s of Toyotas and Scions (technical bulletin was issued in August? October? :mad: of last year, which I found). Now that the burning oil issue has been confirmed to be "outside normal limits" by my dealer, they want to replace some pistons to see if this will fix the problem. I was hoping for a better resolution to this - Anyone else get a good deal? I can't in good conscience sell this car, yet my dealer doesn't seem to want to do more, even though this is entirely Toyotas fault.
  • sparkleysparkley Posts: 1
    I have a 2008 Toyota Rav4 that I purchased used with 36,000 miles on it. The first few oil changes were fine. My mechanic noticed that it burned through a quart in about 5,000 miles which according to any mechanic or guys I know that know anything about cars say this is a ridiculous amount of oil to be burning through n that amount of mileage. The next time it burned through 2 qts in the same amount of time. I also got my hands on a TSB (Toyota Service Bulletin) that has narrowed this problem down to two factories in Japan and specifies vin numbers that are potentially at risk for this oil consumption problem. However I feel like Toyota is giving me the run around making me jump through hoops to determine if the car is actually burning oil. My VIN number is one that could be affected by this and it seems obvious to me that it does have the oil cosumption problem Toyota needs to stand behind their mistake of building a faulty engine and fix these engines. I am now undergoing my 4th test.
  • thumper96thumper96 Posts: 1
    The owner's manual indicates 1 qt per 600 miles is normal. I have taken my Rav4 to a dealer and argued the fact that the engine holds about 4.4 qts. This gives me about 2640 miles before the engine is completely out of oil. If my oil change is scheduled every 3000 miles, the engine would be out of oil before then. I have heard unofficially that dealers do not want to repair engines under warranty since they only get a flat rate for the repair. Out of warranty stuff is more profitable for them. This may be true, because the dealer doesn't want to touch my car even though I have an extended factory warranty for it. Maybe a class action lawsuit is the solution.
  • faudoofaudoo Posts: 1
    I am also disappointed in Toyota. We bought our 2007 RAV4 brand new because we believed Toyota to be a reliable, high-quality vehicle. We drive a lot of miles for a work commute (just turned 200,000) and about a year ago noticed that the engine was using a lot of oil. Didn't think much of it the first couple of times we needed to add oil between oil changes, which occurs about every 6 weeks, but when it continued I started looking up potential issues and found this. I haven't gone to my dealer yet to inquire if they are aware of the issue(I'm sure they are, it's whether they admit it or not) and if there is anything they plan to do about it.
  • justus6justus6 Posts: 10
    I, too, have an oil burning issue with my 2006 Toyota Rav 4. The dealership did the oil consumption test and of course found nothing. I contact Toyota Headquarters and they stated that no one else has complained...so I guess no recall on this issue. Clearly with this many complaints being posted daily the oil consumption is an issue with many complaints...if everyone is saying the same thing there must be some truth in it. Everyone cannot be delusional. I say that we make our voices heard at Toyota. Let's start a class action suit
  • lanie8lanie8 Posts: 4
    My 2008 Rav 4 is going in Monday for repairs. Please, everyone with this problem, find online the Toyota Service Bulletin dealing with this. It lists specific VIN #s or Rav's, Camry's and Scions affected by a manufacturing defect and if you are using more than 1 qt of oil in less than 1200 miles, it qualifies to be looked at. If you show them this bulletin, have a compatible VIN # and have been documented to be burning oil - They should do something. I was hoping for a buy out, but they are going to try to fix the defect. Stay tuned.....
  • justus6justus6 Posts: 10
    Thanks for your response. My car has been looked at twice; however, the dealer wants me to pay $3000-4000 for an engine overhaul...why should I when it's Toyota's problem. I just called Toyota headquarters (1-800-331-4331) and the service tech stated once again that consumers are not calling in to complain about the oil consumption issue, which I believe is a LIE. He also stated that Toyota Service Bulletins are basically informational documents not a recall document. So before our engines burn out from no OIL or we go broke trying to keep it filled with OIL, we need to start a class action suit.
  • justus6justus6 Posts: 10
    How do we get the suit started? I dont have to see my VIN# on a list to know that I have an oil problem. The lack of about 3 quarts of oil within a two to three week time frame is proof enough. It is not normal and Toyota is not going to convince me that it is. I am now undergoing my 2nd and final test.
  • justus6justus6 Posts: 10
    Answer:

    There are 4 requirements to proceed with a class action.
    1. Numerosity - enough plaintiffs to make class action an efficeint way to handle the claim.

    2. Commonality - common issues of fact and law for each claimant

    3. Adequacy of Class Rep - the person who is the class representatitve needs to have claims that are the same as the class members and that they are capable of serving as the representative.

    4. Adequqcy of Counsel - that the law firm representing the class has sufficient skill and resources to represent the class.

    A certified class action suit is one brought on behalf of a large group of people as plaintiffs who have suffered some similar harm from the same actions of the defendant or defendantsA certified class action suit is one brought on behalf of a large group of people as plaintiffs who have suffered some similar harm from the same actions of the defendant or defendants.
  • I am also looking for people with the same problem in order to file a class action suit. I know there has already been one filed in 2007 in Louisianna for the same problem, but it only mentioned a few makes of vehicles, the RAV 4 not being one of them. Toyota lost and had to pay for this problem, and it is binding until 8 years later.

    link title

    I am from New Brunswick, Canada, and so I am looking to join a international class action. My truck is 4 years old, and the problem started around 133,000 km. Same thing, oil sludge problem. Need a new engine, cost $6000 with installation. Called Toyota, of course they said the warranty was expired. Can you tell me what Service Bulletin it is, there are a lot of different ones and I could not find this specific one.
  • I am also looking for people with the same problem in order to file a class action suit. I know there has already been one filed in 2007 in Louisianna for the same problem, but it only mentioned a few makes of vehicles, the RAV 4 not being one of them. Toyota lost and had to pay for this problem, and it is binding until 8 years later.

    http://articles.latimes.com/2007/feb/09/business/fi-toyota9

    I am from New Brunswick, Canada, and so I am looking to join a international class action. My truck is 4 years old, and the problem started around 133,000 km. Same thing, oil sludge problem. Need a new engine, cost $6000 with installation. Called Toyota, of course they said the warranty was expired. Can you tell me what Service Bulletin it is, there are a lot of different ones and I could not find this specific one.
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