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2009 Honda Accord



  • bvdj84bvdj84 Posts: 1,721
    But, the Taurus is no Honda For me, I would later realize, that the honda, though more of a premium, but at some point you get what you pay for. The Honda is truly amazing. But, that is coming from someone who loves Honda.

    I have my eye on the new Accord, TSX, or the new TL for my next lease...that will be tough. The TSX, with paddleshifters would be alot of fun! Looks futuristic as well.

    But, I could get a Black EX-L Accord V6, with tinted windows... very sharp!
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    There comes a point when "Being a Honda" isn't enough. I never thought I'd see it, but the new Accord isn't going to do it for me. After driving both an Accord and a Taurus, I'd pick the Taurus if it were my money.

    Should we create a Taurus v. Accord forum?
  • bvdj84bvdj84 Posts: 1,721
    lol, true, there are many cars that offer so many more features than the Accord, more bang for the buck. But, you are certainly going to have more true value with the Accord though. I lease, so I guess really value doesn't matter, as I can turn it right back in.

    Your right, the Accord hype of its new debut as huge, but sort of a let down, when they took a more casual approach to its design. Now, if they used the design concept they used on the Accord Coupe, which, I think would have not hurt anything, or lose anyone, but simply keeping in line with new styling. But, I feel they have always taken the more casual, conservative approach. Now, the coupe is a true winner!
  • kingpcgeekkingpcgeek Posts: 989
    Have to agree on the coupe. The coupe, TL and G35 are on my short list. There is no way I would get a sedan, and I have leased three of them in the past. Three quarters of the sedan look great, but that rear end IMHO is atrocious.

    I was all set to get the coupe this week when I decided to check the TL prices for August. I found a dealer in SoCal that will sell a TL for 28,200 or 3,500 under invoice. Its worth a $120 plane ticket and a tank of gas to go to LA from Phoenix to get a new car. I will save $60 a month on a lease payment over buying the TL locally. My lease payment will be the $8 more then a Accord Sedan V6 EXL or $40 less then a V6 Coupe.
  • tankbeanstankbeans Posts: 585
    ...after driving an Accord and a Taurus, I'd pick the Taurus if it were my money...

    I have to agree if we're talking exclusively about the sedan. I think the new Accord sedan looks somehow disproportionate and alien. Bulging headlights, huge grill, small taillights and the list goes on. To me it almost seems like they went back to gen vi and tried to beef it up, rather than going with a whole new design. I know it's sort of a stretch to see it that way, but I do.

    Now the coupe on the other hand looks like a car that I would drive. However, I will have to say that I prefer the taillights of the sedan over the coupe. Give me a coupe with the taillights of the sedan and I would be happy. The taillights on the coupe remind me too much of the Kia Spectra, blech.

    Anyway. I would only buy a new Taurus. My mom got burned twice with Taurus/Sables. Both were 94 models and both blew their head-gaskets. The first one blew the head-gasket two months before they were recalled, but my mom couldn't afford to fix it and couldn't wait that long. Bad luck I guess.
  • rv65rv65 Posts: 1,074
    The 09 Accord's are already on sale. It went on sale on Saturday but 09 inventory will trickle in to dealers eventually.
  • tankbeanstankbeans Posts: 585
    Any changes that you've heard?
  • kingpcgeekkingpcgeek Posts: 989
    $495 price increase for V6 EXL Coupe and Sedans!
  • tankbeanstankbeans Posts: 585
    Sad. Luckily I am neither in the market for a new car, nor am I concerned with ever having leather in a car. EVER. Had it once and it cracked. MN weather is hard on leather.

    I also don't need a V6. I have a 4 cylinder Accord, gen vii and it is more than adequate for me.
  • rv65rv65 Posts: 1,074
    Yes Honda released a press release with 09 changes.
  • madpistolmadpistol Posts: 126
    Just a word to the wise, the Taurus may be a better value for the money, but Ford did skimp on several things. The Interior quality on the Accord is much much better, the drive is sportier, and if you like your cars having a little "growl" to their exhaust note, you're going to hate the new Taurus... it almost sounds like a 3.0L 4-cyl. It's sad that Ford didn't do more with their exhaust. The Fusion 3.0L V6 IMO sounds far better than the Taurus's 3.5L V6.

    That's subjective though. If you don't care how your car sounds, I guess it doesn't make much of a difference.
  • kingpcgeekkingpcgeek Posts: 989
    I have the first lease rates. 09 V6 coupe residual is 61% for 36/12 but the MF is a whopping .0028 or 6.72%. Considering there is zero changes between 08 and 09 if leasing its time to jump on an Accord before all of the 08's are gone.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    That's subjective though. If you don't care how your car sounds, I guess it doesn't make much of a difference.

    Some would rather have it sewing machine smooth than have any real personality. With a large highway-style car, it makes sense in the Taurus (to me, anyway). I'm guessing the majority of buyers in the $25k sedan market don't have "exhaust note" on their checklist for new car shopping. ;)
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Horsepower and torque ratings for V-6-equipped automatic transmission models modified to the correct, higher values:

    2008→2009 hp @ RPM: 268@6200→271@6000~6200
    2008→2009 lb-ft. @ RPM: 248@5000→254@5000

    Horsepower and torque ratings for V-6-equipped manual transmission models modified to the correct, higher values:

    2008→2009 hp @ RPM: 268@6200→271@6200
    2008→2009 lb-ft. @ RPM: 248@5000→251@5000
  • tankbeanstankbeans Posts: 585
    If you don't care how your car sounds, I guess it doesn't make much of a difference.

    Personally as long as the car doesn't sound like a freight train going down the street I'm good. I also usually have my radio on, fairly loud, and I can't hear the engine much anyway. As long as the exhaust line is intact I'm good. I had a 93 Escort whose catalytic converter fell off, so there was no connection between the engine and the muffler, and the car sounded like death. That is the only thing I could go without.
  • iwantoneiwantone Posts: 52
    I am considering the 2009 honda accord sedan v6 but I have been reading up on the new 2009 nissan maxima. The 2009 maxima SV is a little pricey even without all the options. I was thinking about the 2009 maxima S base but it comes with cloth. I have been a honda driver for years and I am a little caution about nissan. Could anyone help me the pros and cons. I really want leather and price is a concern. Besides maxima is a redesign this year might be risky correct?
    Also reality,safety,and value mean a lot to me. I want a smooth ride. I currently have a 2001 accord ex and I differently don't want another 4 cyclinder ride.
  • bvdj84bvdj84 Posts: 1,721
    I think that both cars are good contenders this time around, but if you have been a Honda driver, then moving to another brand might cause you to regret doing so. Getting the Max would not be a bad choice on the first redesign, but might have a few bugs needing worked out, but I wouldn't be worried. Drive them both on a decent test drive, seriously consider how it feels in the drivers seat, which appeal more to you, how is the quality, fit and finish. See how both drives out on the open road. The new 08 4cyl, compared to the 2001 is going to seem quite fast. I really think you''ll be impressed with both cars, but its all on what you want. You perhaps could get a better price on an 08 Accord now, than the 09 Max, You could get an EX-L 4cyl for a pretty good lease, or price. Look at the lease forums. Do not rule out the 4cyl, because your 2001 accord, because like I said it is going to feel much different than the 2001. If you want the Accord V6, with leather, you could get one for about $26k, not too bad. The Accord is going to hold its value so well!!! It really sounds like your a Honda fan! I can tell, but drive both cars, keep an open mind, other cars are catching up. Its really tough, but drive both, then think it over, then make a decision, don't impulse buy, cause that could suck later on. I know this, because I did It really pays to take your time on this kind of stuff.
  • tankbeanstankbeans Posts: 585
    It's been suggested, here I think, but if you can afford maybe rent both cars that you are looking at for a couple of days and take them through the paces. Or more correctly your everyday driving and see which one works best for your needs. Try to 4 cylinder of each, again if you can afford it and then determine if you really need the power.

    Personally I couldn't give a fig about 4 cyl vs 6 cyl as long as I'm not left lagging behind everybody else. In my car I'm able to keep pace with "sane" drivers. I have on 03 Accord LX.

    It's too bad that Honda doesn't do the 24 hour test drive that I believe Chrysler advertised for a while. Not sure if they still do that. They may have had too many stolen cars.
  • iwantoneiwantone Posts: 52
    Yes, I am a honda fan. I am not to keen on the premium gas on the mac. Also I just think the accord will retain value better than the max. In our region, I think the insurance is a little more on the max too, might be the cost of the vehicle causing that. I have test driven the accord, but not the max. I love the body style of the new 2009 max. If I choose the honda it will be 2009 . I know no difference from 2008. It's just that my finances wont be in semi order for about 6 months.
  • bvdj84bvdj84 Posts: 1,721
    I think that should be a standard option for a dealer. They should offer a true demo, so that if you could perhaps get on a list to be able to take the car out longer than you average test drive with a salesguy next to you. It would be great to do this, as you can better determine if that is the exact car for you. But, usually if you keep coming back to the same car, or keep talking about it, typically that is the one you want, I have always found that.
  • blufz1blufz1 Posts: 2,045
    Resale! Resale! Resale! Get the Honda,but wait for a diesel. You can have high torque,high mpg,and high resale with a Honda diesel.
  • Purchased a 2008 Accord V6 sedan for wife back in March. She loves the car,
    but the VCM technology has been giving her only 22 MPG average. Mediocre, considering 3 or 4 cylinders are off alot of the time. She is NOT an aggressive driver.

    I was driving a 2002 Camry V6 and been getting 28 MPG average!(mostly freeway) Just traded it in for the 2009 Camry Hybrid. Very impressed with Toyota's Hybrid technology! Very quiet, a lot of torque and acceleration power when needed and almost 'seemless' transition between the electric/ICE switching on and off.

    A lot of our friends have purchased the Prius and love it, but those of you considering a roomy 'family' sedan with 35-40 MPG performance should test drive the Camry Hybrid. Go to Camry Hybrid thread and read comments.

    Coincidently, the current issue of Consumer Reports has a nice article comparing
    Hybrid vs. Gas models for projected 5 year cost savings of ownership. The Camry Hybrid vs. Camry 4-cyl. had the highest savings at $4,250 over 5 years!

    Availability may be the only downside. Well worth any wait, I think!
  • Correction: "2 or 3 cylinders . . "
  • I was hoping the 09 Accord would at least have one or few of the following: HID xenons/push button start/keyless entry... but sadly nothing! It would be great to have these features... anyone think the 2010 model will come with these loaded? I think I would regret it if I purchased the 2009 only to find these changes on the 2010 model.
  • keitha3keitha3 Posts: 124
    I don't miss those things on my '09, but I can see how many would. I really could use memory seats and built in bluetooth on non-navigation models if I had my way.

    Still, all these things would up the cost I suppose.
  • Few if any changes will come before the 2011 mid cycle update.
  • bvdj84bvdj84 Posts: 1,721
    Yes, I too wished they had offered the HID lights, or atleast a the type of lights the accord coupe has. The push start would be really cool, but would simply be a copy cat of everyone else. Not a big deal in my book. I would rather have a manual shift mode for the automatic as a standard feature, that to me would be very nice to have. I am not sure it would be more of an expense since the acura line has had it for quite awhile. Now isnt a big deal, and wouldn't keep me from not buying the car, but it would certainly add more appeal.

    I have noticed people are buying more of the loaded 08 Accords more so than the lower trimmed models. Or atleast getting the EX/EX-L 4cyl. I too, would probably get the loaded 4cyl EX-L. Although, I have my eye on a new TSX for in about a year to lease.
  • I can afford a 2009 Honda Accord up to trim EX, but am sure if the EX is worthier than LX-P.

    The EX has moon roof, 6-CD changer, 17" wheels in stead of 16" in LX-P, and a bit more horsepower than LX-P. The price is about $1,700 different.

    In terms of the worth of those additional features and the value both hold in next 4-5 years, which one would be better? This will be my first car in the US, So, I was hoping to make a right decision on it.

    I'd appreciate any suggestions. Thanks,
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    I nor anyone else can tell you which car is right for you. IMO the EX is worth the extra cost. When I bought my first Accord, in 91, I was reluctant to buy the EX, because I was afraid the moonroof would leak later on, but I bought the EX mainly because of the extra power, and added features. I grew to love the moonroof, and never had a problem with it leaking for 12 years (it's not made like the old sunroofs of the past, and will not leak). I know in the past even things like cloth, for the seats and door trim, were upgraded from the LX to EX trims, including better floor mats. Go over the equipment list for each model. Only you can decide if the extra features and improved materials are worth the extra cost to you. The EX will cost more now, but will also be worth more at resale time. Good luck with your decision, and happy Hondaing. :D
  • Could you or anyone please tell me if the EX (not EX-L) has separated temp. control for driver and front passenger?

    Is this picture in LX-P or EX? interior.htm

    Yesterday I test drove the LX-P coz the dealer did not have an EX for me. I did not quite like the console and dash of the LX-P. But if the EX has the same dash LX-P rather than the EX-L, I would have to make up my mind again. :confuse:

    I could not find the real pictures of EX and LX-P interior, therefore still have no idea what the EX looks like.

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