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Ford Fiesta

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  • autonomousautonomous Posts: 1,769
    edited July 2010
    No way you can buy a decently equipped Fusion for under $16K new.

    I think you are both right.

    As you mentioned, the 2010 Fusion would have to be stripped down to compare in price to a more or less top of the line 2011 Fiesta. Jeffyscott is correct in that Ford is aggressively pricing their 2010 Fusions these days; in Canada the discount on Fusions is over $5K. He is also right that Ford will likely not offer a discount on a brand new 2011 Fiesta in the near term. So, if you like the Fusions, this is a great time to buy. If you prefer the Fiestas, you may want to time your purchase to see if the initial demand softens and substantial discounts start appearing.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    My Ford store just got in two Fiesta's, and we have a SES model that is $22,000. Yikes....

    Yes, it's a lot of technology, but, $22,000 for a sub compact is a lot of money!! You can get a Mazda3 s GT with a little more features for a couple bucks more plus 0% financing.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,728
    Those will be a hard sell. Lots of great cars available for $22k.
  • iamziamz Posts: 542
    Please let us know how long it sits on the lot? Thanks.
  • Truecar.com says that $18275 is the "best price" for an automatic SES and that anything over $18800 (MSRP basically) is overpriced. I can believe that, and have had a couple dealers offer me MSRP and another offering $18300 for that very car.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    How about this Fiesta SE Hatchback 5-speed which basically comes with Sync, airbags and power windows + locks, MSRP $16,460. The basic Mazda2 5-speed with more equipment is $14,730.

    The Fiesta is rated 28/37 vs the Mazda2 at 29/35 and the Mazda gives up about 20hp, but, still, almost $2,000 is a lot. The difference goes to $1,200 when you take out the Sync.

    Also, none of the automatic Fiesta's are rated at 40mpg highway. They are all 38mpg highway. What's up with that?
  • phill1phill1 Posts: 315
    The missing 2 MPG is due to the fact that NO ONE is ordering the new Ford Fiesta`s with the (SFE) Super Fuel Efficiency package which only includes a tire upgrade to low rolling resistance T rated tires for a huge price bump. Originally that (SFE) was supposed to have included a lot of different items besides the tires but Ford decided to include all as standard equipment except for the energy saving tires and dropped the price down considerably but not enough to justify the tire upgrade. They still advertise the 40 MPG hwy due to the fact that you can order the vehicle with those tires.
  • keyser2keyser2 Posts: 25
    I've been hearing about the Fiesta for more than a year, and looking forward to the Spring 2010 launch. I have yet to see one on the street or in a Ford dealership. I believe Ford really did a lousy job marketing this car. What is the holdup? Production problems? The thing is 'heche en Mexico'.

    Once again, Ford is "all blow and no go"
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,699
    They had some shipping problems due to the hurricane. Some dealerships have them already, some don't.

    Why was it a "lousy job"?
  • puffin1puffin1 Posts: 276
    edited July 2010
    Rowe ford in Westbrook Maine has 2 and they are basic. I'd wait for Focus Hatch.
    Have of you seen the hot American cars in the UK and Europe we won;t or don't get. Someone on here put a link on here and I get the scoop and pictures of all the hot cars.Ford makes a Hatch w/TDI selling like hot cakes.The cars over there are faster and geared better.
    We are treated like lepers here. :sick:
  • alltorquealltorque Posts: 535
    Have of you seen the hot American cars in the UK and Europe we won;t or don't get.

    Which "American" cars are you referring to ? We certainly do get more small diesel hatches than you can shake an oily stick at and the current Ford diesels are pretty good..............as are those from Volvo, Saab, Peugeot, Renault, Citroen, VW Group, Vauxhall (GM), Fiat Group, Honda and just about everyone else. ;)

    My current favourite non-diesel is the VW 1.4 TFSI. 180bhp from a supercharged and turbocharged 1.4 litre gasser. Goes into the VW Polo and Skoda Fabia pocket rockets, (and the SEAT version also, IIRC). We are truly blessed.
  • puffin1puffin1 Posts: 276
    edited July 2010
    Well, you may be right and I may be crazy.
    Well, google Auto Expess it's a magazine in the UK. They send me e mails with pictures and comments on all the cars they have over there and in Europe.
    Boy, they jumped all over the new Jetta as another VW flop. They really like the Fords especially the Focus HB SVT . I mean these Euro models have so many types of engines. The Review of the Mazda 2 was so so if you just need a car to go to work a short distant ance in. The VW Polo has a TDI ,but it's not coming here. They road tested the Fiat that's coming here and what a lousy review.
    By the way what country do you live in? Edmunds doesn't put flags up anymore and I'm sick of asking them to.
    I was trying to find a comfort package, a guy on here told me to get. I tried for a long time.Well, come to find out he was from Canada.I bought a New Acura Type S and I thought it would come with heated seats. Well, it didn't only in Canada.That was in 2002 though.
    I'm telling you there are more fun rides and choices across the pond. :)
  • puffin1puffin1 Posts: 276
    edited July 2010
    $22k for a Fiesta no way would anyone pay that. ( I hope) I'd try a VW Golf TDI and the heated seats are multi level and after you shut the engine off you can still listen to radio and close your sunroof. When u take your key out everything shuts down. The Fiesta's seat cusion only warms up
    Also, I think the VW is over priced but, they always ,well, all most all ways build a better cabin, or give the car an extra twist like soundproofing the wheel wells and hood with insulation and a lumbar support. :)
  • If you email dealers in your area you can get them below MSRP easily. I am ordering an SES with automatic transmission which MSRP is $18,865 and got a price at $18,100 which beats Truecar.com's best price by over $100
  • alltorquealltorque Posts: 535
    Well, you may be right and I may be crazy.
    Well, google Auto Expess it's a magazine in the UK. They send me e mails with pictures and comments on all the cars they have over there and in Europe.
    Boy, they jumped all over the new Jetta as another VW flop. They really like the Fords especially the Focus HB SVT . I mean these Euro models have so many types of engines. The Review of the Mazda 2 was so so if you just need a car to go to work a short distant ance in. The VW Polo has a TDI ,but it's not coming here. They road tested the Fiat that's coming here and what a lousy review.
    By the way what country do you live in? Edmunds doesn't put flags up anymore and I'm sick of asking them to.
    I was trying to find a comfort package, a guy on here told me to get. I tried for a long time.Well, come to find out he was from Canada.I bought a New Acura Type S and I thought it would come with heated seats. Well, it didn't only in Canada.That was in 2002 though.
    I'm telling you there are more fun rides and choices across the pond.

    Puffin1 :

    I'm from the U.K. and totally agree that here in Europe the choices of vehicle/engine combinations are staggering...............and we are very happy about it.

    Still not sure which great "American" cars you were referring to that we get in Europe. If you mean Ford and GM subsidiaries then yes, I guess the parent is US but the cars don't originate from there, (either in design or build). Some of the best cars on the market currently are built in the Czech Replublic; including the best of the Hyundais, the i10 and i20.

    Yes, I do see Auto Express from time to time but it's a pretty poor attempt at a motor mag compared to Autocar which is also available on-line and has many years of history as a solid source of information and objective testing - whilst still being a good read.

    You crazy ? Well, you may be but at least you're in good company - if you count me as good company. Keep smilin' they haven't taxed that..........yet. :)
  • There are a lot of engine choices for the fiesta like 1.2 L(62 HP),1.2L (81 HP),1.4 L (95 HP),1.6 L(120 HP), 1.4 L TDCI(67 HP) and 1.6 L TDCI(89 HP).

    Do u want cars with 62 HP or 81 HP which are underpowered and useless.

    Consider this: The most powerful Fiesta in Europe is the only one available in America and it goes from 0-60 mph in 9.3 seconds which is slow for American standards. A fiesta with 1.2L engine will go from 0-60 in 14 or 15 seconds. We don't need such crappy or underpowered cars in USA. I am actually happy that we don't get these crappy engines here.
  • puffin1puffin1 Posts: 276
    I don't want a car that's advertised as a HB and truly isn't and thats a Fiesta and a Focus.
    The Focus Mondeo svt 0 to 60 is 7.8
    :lemon:
  • cannon3cannon3 Posts: 296
    The B class is purely for MPG reasons we all must remember. I have spotted a few of these lately and they are eye catching. Design is very nicely done in my opinion for a a small car. Beats the Yaris and the Fit by miles in design.
    Price.. remember the first 3-6 months dealers won't deal on these. Wait for inventory to come up in about 6--9months and then go shopping. Once more dealers have them they will deal. I would no-way pay over $20,000 for a small car like this. Fully loaded about $18K Max! Competition along with dealer stock will drive prices down. Be patient.
  • plektoplekto Posts: 3,738
    According to the difference in prices elsewhere(Canada being probably the easiest to do a comparison on), the B-Class will start at about $5K less than a C class.

    But, for a lot of people(my mother as an example), who want a smaller car that is also as luxurious as a Mercedes or similar - ie - a S class but at 1/2 the overall size, or as close as possible), this is a segment that has been ignored. 30mpg+, small, and the floor mats are more luxurious than the entire interior of something like that new Honda.

    It will sell quite well I bet.
  • puffin1puffin1 Posts: 276
    I agree with you. There will be a firesale come September and October on some Ford models especially.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,699
    I wouldn't count on firesale prices. Ford will simply cut production before they put a lot of cash on the hood.
  • puffin1puffin1 Posts: 276
    Read post #470 Would you spend 22k SEL or 19k SE Fiesta. Go look at a basic VW golf and just sit in the cabin , Lumbar support @ 2 MFD's lighted Vanity mirrosr , 5spd 2.5 liter 170 hp and cargo space as the seats fold flat. The Focus and Fiesta do not haves seats that fold for car cargo space.!7K add $600.00 for a moonroof and a stiff sports suspension and keyleess hatch .
    A Fiesta loaded w/ sync for 18k maybe.Also, wait when the 2002 Focus phony HB come out. The prices of the Fusion, Focus sedan and Fiesta will drop and November is the time to shop. The Euro is $2.20 and pound is #
    $1.60 the dollar is in the tank.
    Well Kiby , not to be wise but what would you do?
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,699
    I spec'd out a fairly loaded SEL for less than $18500 (no moonroof). I'd buy a Fiesta because I hate VWs.

    If Fiesta is too expensive FOR YOU then don't buy it.
  • puffin1puffin1 Posts: 276
    edited August 2010
    If you'd have read my profile(ours) we are searcing for a Home depot car. We live in Vail (Avon) and Maine summers.I thought the Fiesta was to be a HB. The same as a Focus was to be.(Stop by Paddy O'days in Avon and I'll buy you a Beer just ask for Me) After 5:00PM
    A naturally aspirated car struggles at 10.000 feet so,. I be better off with a TDI, or a Subie WRX ,or the Forester XI. It doesn't start snowing until the end of September the earliest. So add a grand for a moonroof on the SEL plus taxes and paper work. $20,000.00 I wouln't own a car in the Rockies with out a moonroof. Hey, no use for caps just a friendly brainpickin' on here. :shades:
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,699
    What do you mean - "I thought the Fiesta was to be a HB"?

    I thought you meant HatchBack. If so then you can get a 5 door Fiesta HB which would be even better for Home Depot runs than a 3 door HB.
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Posts: 3,855
    Pretty sure the Focus will be available in a hatch too, since that is what they showed in the picture of it that they sent me some time ago in a promotional mailing.

    ...and of course, the seats do fold down, just not completely flat.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,699
    Yes, Fiesta and Focus will be offered as 4 door sedans and hatchbacks initially. I expect a "hot hatch" version of each to be offered as a 3 door hatchback like the Euro Fiesta and Focus.
  • creakid1creakid1 Posts: 2,032
    edited August 2010
    I don't want a car that's advertised as a HB and truly isn't and thats a Fiesta and a Focus.
    The Focus Mondeo svt 0 to 60 is 7.8


    "...likely to deliver the 0-62mph sprint in less than seven seconds and a top speed of more than 140mph."

    But really, 0-to-60 isn't everything. How often do you rev all the way? I'll take the fat-torque instant-throttle naturally-aspirated 2.3 4-cyl (Fiesta-size) Focus -- only in N America! & please, no nose-heavy 5-cyl from Volvo. Why would you envy Euro's engine choices? :P

    & if you can't get a new one w/ 2.3 today, an used '04-07 sample w/ resale value like that will only cost a few tokens. I don't know how much you guys gonna pay for a new Fiesta, but my aunt just got a new roomy 2.5 Subaru Legacy AWD auto w/ pwr seat w/ pwr lumbar for under $20k including tax & lic.
  • daryll44daryll44 Posts: 306
    What's the deal with the rear DRUM BRAKES? I thought they went out with the V8-6-4 engines and crushed Corinthian leather.

    Are they safe?
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