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Ford Fiesta

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  • iamziamz Posts: 542
    Looks like $16,200 is an estimated price by Edmunds. They say this also;

    "Though body styles and trim levels that will be offered here have yet to be set, a 2011 Volkswagen Polo four-door hatchback will likely debut first, followed by a two-door version. "

    That would tell me that the list of standard features are "available features", and not actually standard. You can't really have "trim levels" if everything is standard. ;) I guess you'll find out later this fall. I would expect it to be very competitive though and VW has a history of including lots of features in even their base models.
  • iamziamz Posts: 542
    I suspect you're right. Ford knows a lot of "can't wait" enthusiasts will buy the 2011 model and trade it in the very next year for the high performance model. It's just good marketing and every car maker does it.
  • lilengineerboylilengineerboy Posts: 4,116
    Ford has all but confirmed future sport versions of both the Fiesta and Focus so they're on the way but as you said the focus right now (no pun intended) is fuel economy.

    I expect the performance versions will be 3 door hatches also.


    Yeah but with "PowerShift" (read: Automatic) transmissions. I think for the age group they are aimed at (who grew up on PS2 and can't drive a stick anyway), they will be very successful.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,622
    No reason to believe they won't offer a true 6 spd manual on the performance vehicles. The powershift trans is built for fuel economy (dry clutch) and not high performance. Right now the powershift trans wouldn't handle the torque of a high performance engine anyway. So I'd expect a true manual for the hi-po versions.
  • puffin1puffin1 Posts: 276
    yup, but the 1.4 liter is a killer for Vw ,but they have a 1.4L in TDI for Polo we will never get the good stuff. Canada gets better imports than us.
  • audreyalityaudreyality Posts: 8
    edited December 2009
    "Yeah but with "PowerShift" (read: Automatic) transmissions. I think for the age group they are aimed at (who grew up on PS2 and can't drive a stick anyway), they will be very successful."

    I'm 25 and very interested in the 2011 Fiesta. I never had a PS2, but I did have an original Nintendo and currently own a PS3. Also, I drive a 5-speed manual and learned to drive on a manual clutch. Many of my friends that are around my age also know how to drive a stick and enjoy video games, so please don't make assumptions.

    I am excited to give this thing a test drive this summer. I am interested in it for it's body styling, American company origins (despite the fact they'll come from Mexico), technology features, pricing, and estimated MPG. Overall this car has a lot of nice qualities. Bundled with federal safety upgrades I think it has a lot of potential. :)
  • lilengineerboylilengineerboy Posts: 4,116
    I'm 25 and very interested in the 2011 Fiesta. I never had a PS2, but I did have an original Nintendo and currently own a PS3. Also, I drive a 5-speed manual and learned to drive on a manual clutch. Many of my friends that are around my age also know how to drive a stick and enjoy video games, so please don't make assumptions.

    I didn't mean to slight you in the least. I also don't think you are in the majority; looking in aggregate, I don't think there is a lot of demand for the manual and a younger, technology driven demographic seems to like the DSG.

    Also, why is the auto a6-speed but the manual is only a 5-speed? and why isn't the top gear deep enough to support the type of fuel economy people are looking for? If i need to pass a Ferrari going up a hill, I am okay downshifting; I like to shift, that's why I want a manual.

    I am excited to give this thing a test drive this summer. I am interested in it for it's body styling, American company origins (despite the fact they'll come from Mexico), technology features, pricing, and estimated MPG. Overall this car has a lot of nice qualities. Bundled with federal safety upgrades I think it has a lot of potential.

    I think its great Ford has a competitive package.
  • phill1phill1 Posts: 315
    So far, the only serious gripes that the auto pundits have complained about is the obvious (missing) front seat armrest! Stop the assembly lines and add this important comfort accessory. At the very least, make it available as an aftermarket bolt on that can be ordered through the dealers Parts Dept. Also, Ford should replace the HVAC knobs from the hard plastic to rubber covered knobs. Why go to the time and expense of making all the other surfaces (soft-touch) and have cheap hard plastic on the control knobs? That switch can be done as soon as the new knobs arrive.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,622
    I saw something that referenced an armrest but I don't remember where. I do remember thinking that this would resolve those complaints.
  • alltorquealltorque Posts: 535
    So far, the only serious gripes that the auto pundits have complained about is the obvious (missing) front seat armrest!

    Sorry, but the word "serious" in this context is, in my opinion, rather over the top. It's a potential comfort accessory, i.e. could be a "nice to have" not a becessity on a car of this size/class. Not covering the HVAC controls in soft-touch material is a silly oversight but hardly a deal breaker (?). They have to keep some things back for 2012, along with the 6-spd manual. :) Be thankful they've kept it fairly true to it's European design origins and not "Americanised" it to within an inch of its life.

    On the other hand, if you're being ironic - that's fine.
  • iamziamz Posts: 542
    edited May 2010
    Actually, the whole "soft touch" dashboard has me laughing. I can't figure out why a dashboard being soft is desirable. It's not safety related because that's why we have seatbelts and air bags. The only time I ever touch my dash is when I'm cleaning it. My P5 has a "hard touch" dash and it looks great. No need to touch it. :P

    I'm going to make a center armrest for my Fiesta. Just enough to rest my elbow on. That's where "soft touch" is nice - on the armrests.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,623
    It's probably for: 1) appearance (soft touch plastic usually looks better than hard, although carmakers are getting better on that), and 2) soft touch tends to scratch less easily (some hard-touch plastics in cars are notorious for showing scratches).
  • "I didn't mean to slight you in the least. I also don't think you are in the majority; looking in aggregate, I don't think there is a lot of demand for the manual and a younger, technology driven demographic seems to like the DSG."

    A majority of people I know in the 23-30 age group know how to drive a manual transmission. This group of people represents many lifestyles of friends, family, co-workers, and acquaintances. Knowing how to drive a manual is still regarded as an important driving skill. However, only a small percentage prefer a manual. Not everyone cares about that flexibility it offers. This regard or disregard to a manual transmission is true across many age groups, looking in aggregate. Enjoying convenience is not the same as being lazy or inept (which you implied by the "PS2 generation" reference previously). I do not feel slighted at all since you don't personally know me, but I do feel that you're making untrue assumptions. I hope my testimony and clarifications here help rectify the issue.

    As for arm rests and soft touch dashboards: I've never had a car with front seat arm rests, but I've only had cars in the below $20,000 range. For me it's not really a selling point. I think that lower priced cars don't bother with that sort of thing and it could be a space saver. The soft touch dash is a little pointless, but backy makes a good point about the scratch tolerance.
  • phill1phill1 Posts: 315
    I agree, I did`nt claim either of those issue I commented on were "deal breakers". I have ordered my Fiesta 5 door hatchback SE back in Mar and await its arrival. Needless to say, both of those items could be addressed quickly and rather painlessly without making it a 2012 model year upgrade.
  • audreyalityaudreyality Posts: 8
    edited May 2010
    OEM QUALITY ARMREST ACCESSORY FOR 2011 FORD FIESTA

    "Specialty automotive accessory manufacturer Boomerang Enterprises, Inc, has developed and launched a premium armrest accessory for the North American version of the Ford Fiesta that seamlessly integrates to the vehicle’s interior."

    I am not interested in this, but I've seen the demand for it here.
  • rebel71rebel71 Posts: 87
    I'm wondering when the Fiesta is coming out? Does anyone have concerns about production issues regarding first year model car? The other thing I'm not sure of is the rear drum brakes. I had them on a previous vehicle and wasn't impressed w/ braking performance. Would this be a deal breaker for anyone? I'm a bit spoiled since having four wheel disc. I like all the other things about it though and seems Ford spent a lot of time on design and performance. Hmm... a lot to think about.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,622
    They should start showing up any day now. Don't worry about the drum brakes - they won't affect stopping power on such a small econobox. Most of the stopping is done with the fronts anyway. And they've been building the Fiesta overseas for at least a year. Ford has had a few engineering issues with new models but they've been diligent about fixing them and none are long term issues, just a minor inconvenience. I wouldn't hesitate to buy a new Fiesta.
  • phill1phill1 Posts: 315
    I agree, with a light weight vehicle like the Fiesta, rear drum brakes will be more then adequate. I just replaced front disk pads on my 06` Kia Rio5 SX 5 door hatchback, a similar size vehicle with 54K mileage and there was still pad life left. Rear brakes shoes had 50% material still remaining. When will they start production of the ordered Fiesta`s with the Power Moon Roof? July or August?
  • iamziamz Posts: 542
    I saw some people with moonroofs had their cars scheduled for build late in June. Expect a July delivery based on that. On a personal note, I just found out my Fiesta is coming down the assembly line at this very moment. :)
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,897
    I do not feel slighted at all since you don't personally know me, but I do feel that you're making untrue assumptions. I hope my testimony and clarifications here help rectify the issue.

    You really just need to get over it. You probably run with a lot of "gearheads" and I don't mean that derogatorily. I look at all the younger generation(s) in my family and the vast majority of boys and girls don't know how to drive a stick. The few that do would say the same thing you're saying, "all my friends know how to drive a stick". But that is based on a very small sample. Since only about 10%(WAG) of cars sold in the US are stick just where do you think all these youngin's even find one to learn on?
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