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2008 Honda Civic Problems and Repairs

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  • cj7375cj7375 Posts: 15
    I just want to add something. Normal O2 level in the air should be 20.9% or rounded to 21%.

    However, some cities in the world have recorded O2 levels of 12%. That is very low.

    At 7% level of O2, life stops to exist.
  • Got a question for you:

    Have you had anyone else drive your car and got the same symptoms? As I did a bit of internet research, if nobody else gets the same symptoms as you while driving your car, this means that you may have developed a sensivity to motion/car sickness which may explain why the dealer suggest you drive an automatic transmission with smoother shifting. Were all your previous Hondas standard or auto? How long do you have to drive the car before you start feeling sick? My apoligies if you already verified this and I'm not trying to defend the dealer or Honda, but simply trying to help you find a solution.

    Cheers...
  • Now, jones, you must be a man to make such a statement! You have been helpful and nice, I do appreciate.

    try and understand that we women, myself included, are intelligent enough to know whether we are getting car sick, or to know if the car is a problem.
    my car has been tested to find low oxygen-which spikes high and low when driving-alarms have sounded. Low oxygen causes headaches, dizziness, and nausea.

    and yes, I always drive a standard. and, yes, my male neighbour took the car out. he got an earache. Also symptom of low oxygen.

    I do understand you are trying to help, but pleae don't assume because we are women, it is all in our head, or, we are sensitive.

    I've had to live my life this way, and you can see how difficult it is-it has been 11 months, no car, no solution. If Ii was a man, I would not be in this situation.

    the dealer also told me to see the doctor. this is demeaning,and something I resent.

    as I say, I do appreciate your help !
  • thanks! it has been sugegsted a few times to me that the cabin air filter may be dirty/blocked, causing this problem. It would be hilarious if this was it-the dealer would really be a dummy then. I plan to take the car to can tire tomorrow to change.check filter. It has been 11 months.

    i am interested to know the o reading in your civic. I am borrowing my neighbours fit, which does not have the same problem as mine. I have also had an automatic from the dealer way back, which was also ok
  • jet10000jet10000 Posts: 656
    edited March 2010
    the point of my post is to say as loudly as I can that my new honda is a problem, and that my dealer and manufacturer have done NOTHING to honor the warranty on my vehicle.

    At 11 months and counting, I own a car that can not be driven.

    please don't respond to me again.


    Well just as I respect your right to make such allegations in an open forum, I also will exercise my right to defend Honda against allegations if they don't align with known scientific information.

    There simply is no known way for an automobile to produce higher levels of oxygen than would normally be found in the air around the vehicle.

    In theory it's possible for the oxygen to be lower if carbon monoxide produced by the engine was somehow entered into the cabin. I suppose it's also possible that the cabin's oxygen could decline if the cabin was not properly ventilated so that the normal breathing of the cabin's occupants decreased the oxygen and increased the carbon dioxide.

    But earlier posts talked of oxygen spikes which are not possible as there would be no source for the extra oxygen. The Honda limited warranty does not cover "too much oxygen" in the cabin.

    Just because an illness occurred soon after you drove the vehicle is no guarantee that the vehicle was responsible. There could be a number of physical and/or psychological factors involved which could require the consultation of the appropriate medical personnel to be resolved.

    Regardless, if modifications to the car by the dealer have not made the vehicle so that you feel comfortable driving it, then my previous advice remains---you should sell the vehicle. As there is no law that I know of restricting the amount of oxygen in the vehicle, then Honda could not be held liable for high oxygen test results that you might have seen.

    So instead of letting the car continue to depreciate, just sell it and get a vehicle that maintains oxygen levels to your satisfaction.
  • forgot to include....the dealer / owner, on the second call I made to him personally-the call in which he hung up in my ear mid sentence, for the second time......

    after telling me how he was losing sleep over my car problem.....wish he knew what to do.....

    stated that he was unable to lose money by trading in my standard for an automatic-the dealer is a millionaire in the community, who has just donated 1 million to the local Y.

    great member of society. when I stated that this my 3rd honda purchase from him, and he would lose my business, he laughed.

    The dealer has been rude to me from the start-mechanics, head mechanic, owner.

    Way back when, at the start of this, they gave me a loaner car,. When they failed to diagnose my car, they asked for the loaner back. The service manager told me that if the car was not back by noon Sat, that he would file the car as stolen with the police.

    how's that for respect? Feels like 1910, not 2010.

    they've basically, dismissed my car issue, from the start.

    I did mention the brakes failed 2x-literally, there was no brake-like hitting a brick wall. This they blamed on my 'aggressive driving".

    In Feb I received a letter from them stating that any further work-this is diagnosis -on my car, would be at their standard hourly rate-car is under warranty, they did not do their job, did not call honda tech line,etc, but now I am supposed to pay for them to not find what is wrong with my car.

    All the boys at honda DROVE my car, and when they didn't get a headache, stated there is nothing wrong. Also, when the brakes worked for them, they stated there was no problem.

    On the first visit to honda, the service manager told me I would have to get the lease canceled, as they could not find the problem. This translates to

    I can not problem solve. I can work on a car if you tell me what to do, but I can't figure out what is wrong with it. welcome to my city.

    Enjoy
  • cj7375cj7375 Posts: 15
    the cabine's air filter is replaced in 30 sec.

    here is how ....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axqD4kSORG4

    That could be your problem.
  • thanks! can tire took out the old filter today, which is blocked with dirt, and black...but did not have replacement in stock. Tomorrow, I plan to get one.

    I hope this works!
  • sandman_6472sandman_6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 2,679
    Even though you seem to have problems with your car, folks are trying to give you help here. When you don't agree or don't like the answer, your "attitude" rears it's ugly head. Honestly, loose the attitude and just tell the poster "thanks" for responding. Sell the car already & move on. The stress will kill you and it's making the many forums you've posted in a bit "hostile". We don't do "hostile" here in Edmunds.com...this is a fun website for folks to chat and not face your attitude when you disagree.

    I was brought up with the phrase..."you get more with honey than vinegar" which is indeed true. You will never be happy with Honda whatever they end up doing so it's time to move on.

    The Sandman :sick: :shades:

    2014 Hyundai Tuscon SE/2005 Mazda 3s/2008 Hyundai Accent GLS/2009 Nissan Versa SL hatch

  • nmarcel1nmarcel1 Posts: 21
    I have a 2009 Honda Civic LXS with 7K... in the past few weeks (weather was colder) the car was hard to start.... it sounded like a weak battery when cranking.... but the car started eventually. This happen a few times in the past month or two.... I checked the battery and alternator with a volt meter and the battery is charging at 12.5 volts with car off... when I start it the battery is charging at 13.75 volts.... I put a load on the car and see the volts drop slightly and then go back up which is normal.... I've checked the battery terminals (tight and not dirty).... has this happened to anyone else?? The car is not even a year old and has low miles. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
  • my 08 civic is hard to start on cold winter mornings-I have no idea why-someone has told me this is a problem
  • fair enough-point taken-apologies to you and those who are offering help. attitude gone.

    the particular post you've read, however, did insult me, and this I responded to.

    wish I could sell it-have been trying to pass on the lease. unfortunately, it is not that simple. am stuck with it for the moment
  • Yes you are correct, I'm a man. Also, I have never been car sick, sea sick, motion or whatever, but my wife does get this on occasion. In the car, this would only apply when she's a passenger trying to read a book or something. BTW, I'm not questionning the intelligence of women as I don't even know what being car sick feels like, therefore do not understand it. I know one thing for sure is that you will never buy another car/honda from that dealer you're dealing with and would do the same.

    Have you gotten any Lemon stickers yet? :shades:
  • thanks, Jones! hope I have not offended you-not at all my intention. My claws, however, are out, thanks to the local Honda dealer.

    I have not done the lemon stickers yet, as I wanted to try changing the air cabin filter first. I have had a few people suggest this.

    I just did this today-not sure if it yet worked.

    Having driven the car to change the filter, was enough to make me nauseous and give me a headache-still lasting, from early today. To the point I can not concentrate after driving-as a cause of driving.

    Whatever is wrong, it is acute, and, not good.

    Will drive again tomorrow, to see if it is any better.

    if not, will proceed with the lemon stickers. My neighbour is enthused to help me in this!

    will let you know, and, thanks again.
  • lisa311lisa311 Posts: 2
    I'm just wondering if any of you have filed a complaint with NHTSA. Getting my new tires and alignment tomorrow......we'll see how this goes. BTW, I did file a complaint. I was amazed at how many had been filed already. If any of you have changed the tires, has it helped? I switched from Bridgestone to a different brand.
  • sorry, wish I could help! I don't actually have tire problems(yet)...just other problems

    I did read about tire problems in new civics, while researching my own problem-there are mega complaints, in both US and Canada, and as mentioned, a lawsuit in progress.
    (auto beefs, etc)
    good luck!
  • sparklandsparkland Posts: 108
    My solution would be to sell the car immediately before the value depreciates any more. If as you say it has been sitting for nearly eleven months, then the mileage should be low, which will give you bargaining power.
  • nmarcel1nmarcel1 Posts: 21
    I understand that cars will struggle a bit in very cold weather conditions to start but the few times this happened to me the engine was cranking and as it continued to crank it got slower and slower... kind of the symptoms when your battery is going to die... but then the engine eventually started.... I let it run for a few minutes and then shut it off and re started and the engine kicked over with no problem... so, as I mentioned, I checked the battery, alternator and cables and all was ok.... that is why I can't understand the struggle to start on those days.... warm weather is coming so I suspect this will not happen again until next winter... I'll have to keep checking it.
  • thanks, I appreciate. however, I have been trying to pass on the lease for months-lease rates are now lower than mine is , and no one has been interetsed, to date.

    not that simple.

    Additionally, after driving the car myself Tues to change the air filter-I am still sick today, 3 days later. seems the low oxygen count can not stand alone-I am convinced that the low o is because of carbon monoxide in the car.Symptoms for both are the same. So. how do I pass on a sick car?

    Unlike the dealer and honda canada I have a conscience.
  • kmakerkmaker Posts: 20
    Hi Lisa,
    Sorry I haven't been replying, had some tech issues. Anyway, your symptoms were exactly the same as what I was experiencing but I couldn't get Honda Canada to do anything about it, not even replace the control arms that I'm told are the issue. The tires should be replaced by Honda, no question that it was an engineering fault of some kind that (since you have now had the control arms replaced for) they have assumed liability in my opinion. As for the alignment, interesting that they wouldn't have addressed this at the time of the suspension parts being replaced. It's "alignment 101" (as I recall from my many year of working in the automotive field as a mechanic) that the tires are in good shape. So, either they did the alignment after the parts were replaced and ignored the shape of the tires at that time, or chose to turn a blind eye as the tire replacement could have been more easily blamed on the suspension parts (control arms) being the issue. Trust me, the road noise you hear will vanish with new tires and you shouldn't take the chance on driving with the ones you have on the car....either way, get new tires. Lastly, I'm pleased to say that I sold my Honda back to the dealer that I bought it from. It cost me about $10,000.00 but I couldn't deal with the frustration any longer so to me it was worth it.....never again. While at the dealership, I found it ironic that they are selling a "tire replacement" warranty that can be purchased....wonder why. :)
    Paul
  • hi

    wanted to let you know that I'm not lisa-my problem is not tires, but something else!

    thanks!
  • He was replying to lisa311 and not civicowner3.
  • Hi,

    I am wondering if you did ever test the co, etc in your civic. it seems the company that tested for me has a device that only picks up oxygen depletion etc, but not the reason for. Carbon monoxide,and/ or other things can cause the oxygen to be low, so I am told.

    I am curious to know if other civics are low on oxygen, thus the inquiry.

    This might be a lot of trouble for you to do, so not to worry if you can't. Yet, I am curious what your civic reads.

    thanks!

    civic owner
  • kmakerkmaker Posts: 20
    Hi,
    Nope, didn't do that but complained about "surging" symptoms that I thought were as a result of a "lean" air-fuel mixture, which in turn would cause poor CO readings. My car acted up (it was gutless) when it was warm outside and that's a function of oxygen or fuel density issue that's supposed to be corrected by O2 sensors and the "brain" of the car....didn't work. Either way, it was a performance issue that wasn't accounted for (or at least didn't work) in my car. Other symptoms would be the smell of the exhaust that whether lean (too much oxygen and not enough fuel) or rich (basically the opposite) but my car was OK in that regard other than the performance and a bunch of other things as I've mentioned previously. I also thought it had to do with a blocked/plugged exhaust system or catalytic converter at one point but couldn't be bothered to check it and nor would the dealer.
    I just checked some of the comments posted by a lady that experienced nausea in some form. Can you advise her to try driving the car with the heater or AC turned off? I forgot that I had a heater motor that had a really high pitched squeal that I couldn't "hear" that actually gave me headaches until I figured out what it was. I once had a GM product that did the same thing. By the time I took my Honda in for repair, the dealership couldn't help but hear it because I had to let it get to the point of squealing as I knew they wouldn't do anything about it. The test (granted, not scientific) is to turn the heater on at low speed, drive around for awhile, then turn it off, completely. If it's what I think, there is instant relief and if not, then something else (contour of the windshield maybe?) is the cause. From what I've read, and I love the passion, it doesn't sound anything like an Oxygen ratio or exhaust leaking into the cabin...really nothing to do with it in my opinion.
    I'll check on line in a couple of days and see the chats.
    Cheers,
    Paul ;)
  • Hello,

    I am the person whose civic is making me nauseaous! Wanted to respond that I have driven with the air on, off, heat on , off......car is best with the recirculation button on, but I still get sick. I get ridiculous headaches, I have to wait for them to go away. Note that I am a health nut-a runner, non smoker, healty eater, never sick, never catch anything, never get headaches, never get nauseaous.

    last Tues I drove the car in traffic, 10 min to get the in cabin air filter changed. I was sick until Sunday-the symptoms fade over time.

    I get a fierce headache , and literally can not think-my brain does not work. thank God it wears off.
    I get nauseaous-lasts for days.
    I get tired-I slept and slept for 5 days after driving the car.

    The symptoms are quite serious, and are those of co.

    the testing seemingly tested oxygen only, which was low, and changed while driving.

    therefore, the car sits in my driveway, and honda and honda canada are ignoring me.

    If there is not an exhaust leak, or, a loose nut/ bolt somewhere, I think the car is just leaky-exhaust from the street is pulled into the car. I can not figure anything else!

    Thanks!
  • jet10000jet10000 Posts: 656
    The symptoms are quite serious, and are those of co.

    the testing seemingly tested oxygen only, which was low,


    You should have the cabin tested for high CO levels to see if that is the case.
  • I've been trying! no one will, or can!
  • lwnclwnc Posts: 1
    I have had the same problem and did not realize that others incountered it as well. I went ahead a replaced the battery in fear that I would be stranded somewhere. Since then my Civic has started just fine. Prior to changing the battery I incoundered this problem in warm weather as well... the hesitaion to start. I said something to the dealer but as always they said that they found nothing wrong. Thank you for sharing.
  • csweencsween Posts: 3
    My Honda Civic needs front brakes every 10,000 miles or less. I need to dump this car but I am upside down, I owe more than I can get but I can't keep paying for brakes. After reading posts about tires and alignment I think I have these problems too. It is a really rough ride,my Mom's 99 Civic rides better than mine . I have alittle over 40,000 miles on it . Never buying a Honda again.
  • hello,

    With sincerity, my heart bleeds for you-honda are, well, I can't print that here. Find Christopher Brown, lawyer, in the US, and if in Canada, they have partners filing suits. Also, there is a class action suit re tires in BC-you can find all this online.

    I am also out 15,000.00 and counting. the latest is that my car may be mouldy-the air system. I will have to fly someone from another area in to test.

    hondas license to sell and manufacture cars should be revoked, in my opinion.

    I for one, when I get to the bottom of my ordeal, will sue them til they bleed

    hope you do the same

    1 question: how did you know the brakes were a problem?Did they fail? If so, how?

    how has Honda treated you? Did they ignore you? and, the dealer?

    good luck
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