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Volvo XC90 T6 Transmission

kari4kari4 Posts: 15
edited December 2013 in Volvo
Hi, I am new to the board. I am the previously proud owner of an 04 xc90 T6. Previously because I have just been reading about all the transmission troubles and am now just waiting for something to happen. Ignorance truly was bliss in my case!
My questions are, can I do anything to avoid trashing the tranny?? I have been on other boards where the response was " it WILL go, be prepared" I have to say, I am not prepared to fork out 5000.00+- to replace this if I can at all avoid it. I was wondering if I should have the transmission flushed and if yes should I go to the dealer or to a tranny shop?? I am having numerous other problems with it as well but this one is the one I really want to avoid at all costs.
I have constant CONSTANT clunking, knocking and grinding from the front end. Have had both ball joints repaired and it still persists. I am at the point where I just want this thing to be quiet and if that means re-doing the front end with all new parts I will have to do it. I am just tired of doing one thing and a couple of weeks later having to take it back for another mystery sound.
So that is where I am, not happy about it either but willing to do whatever to make this transmission hold up.

thanks and I am glad to have found this site!

kari.
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Comments

  • barbara16barbara16 Posts: 15
    Hi,
    Pay very close attention to any slipping. Our transmission went with only 28,000 miles. I do not drive the hard hard by any means.
    Just be careful not to get stranded if it starts slipping. The dealer is less than a half mile away from our house and we literally coasted there with no gears left!
    Good luck to you, hopefully you will have more than we did!
  • kari4kari4 Posts: 15
    So you are on your second tranny??? I have 90,000 miles on my xc90. What exactly would a notice if it were to start slipping?? I also don't drive it like a race car, just the kids to school and me around town. The situation as it stands with us is that we would get rid of it in a second but as we now owe more than we could get for it there is no point, we will just drive it till it falls apart... which at this rate looks like it won't be too long at all.

    K :cry:
  • barbara16barbara16 Posts: 15
    Consider your self lucky that you got that many miles with out replacing the transmission. Mine went at 28,000 and it happened fast. Pay attention, when you accelerate if the car feels like you went into neutral, consider turning around!!!! If you feel that happen quickly get it to a shop. I also am a carpooling mom that does beat on the car, but it has given us a lot of problems. We are thinking about getting rid of with only 42,000 miles">. The funny thing about purchasing the xc90 we did not hesitate to think about reliabilty because volvo has a reputation for endurance. I guess the xc90 is the exception. Transmission, fuel pump, replace the steering, ac, front end, what next?
    The best investment was the extended warranty!
    Good luck!
  • kari4kari4 Posts: 15
    We had the extended warranty and I swear as soon as it was done, everything started knocking, clunking and groaning. I am thinking that I am going to have the whole front end re-done. I have had it in the shop so many times for knocking sounds and they fix a ball joint or some sway bars etc etc and it is good for a few weeks and then we are right back to where we started. I am tired of paying for one thing after another after another, I would prefer to just get everything done at once and at least that way I know that the parts will al have approximately the same life span.
    I am so disappointed in this car. I would never have thought that a car that costs this much could give me this many problems.
    I am thinking about getting rid of mine as well but who in their right mind would ever buy it after hearing the sounds coming from it. I would have to fix it to sell it and if I am going to do that, I might as well just drive it.

    Thanks for the good luck wishes, who would have thought that with Volvo we wold need so much luck!! :confuse:
  • aduganadugan Posts: 1
    To Kari and Barbara........I have a 2004 T6 s80 sedan....what a pretty car! .but boy am I glad I found you all so I am not alone and "imagining things"...I am having transmission problems like you all described..only just with 1st gear. When at a stop light, then it turns green I step on accelerator the rpm goes up but car does not move then it slowly picks up speed and everything is fine..tho sometimes it slams into first with a fierce jerk....I even started to think it was the way I was pressing down on the gas pedal when I had high heels on...I took it to my volvo guy and we drove around together and it NEVER DID IT!
    ...of course no longer under warrentee at 65,ooo mi..........I am a mom and not a race car driver either.....just picking up kids whatever......so...Have you both fixed the transmission? How is it working now? My volvo repair guy did some sort of trick with the computer a few months ago and that seemed to help for a while but now the problem is back......also, I read on the All.experts.com site that the newer cars have each gear controlled by its own solenoid so it is possible it is a computer glitch and If you get it fixed soon enough maybe the transmission will not be damaged?? I am going back to my guy next week because the "check engine" light came on so maybe that will give me some insight to the problem....
  • kari4kari4 Posts: 15
    I haven't done anything to the transmission yet on mine. I talked to the manager at the dealership and he told me that if you treat the car kindly it should do the same for you. So for me that means that at the next visit to the dealership, I have to not only change the struts and get the front end looked at, I have to get the transmission flushed and have them check it over. Mine sometimes does what you describe at the green lights. However the rpms don't really go up, it is almost like it just takes a bit to realize that I want it to go. I have said before, if I didn't love this car so much it would have been gone long ago.

    So for now I am trying to be proactive in maintaining the car in the best possible condition in the hopes that that way I will avoid some major work down the road.

    Good luck with yours and I hope your dealer can help you out.

    Kari.
  • recall5recall5 Posts: 1
    My 2003 XC90 T6 transmission failed on the Motorway. My Volvo dealership has quoted £4000 to repair but cannot get the spare part for over a month due to the high demand for these spares.
    Web forums such as this are littered with unhappy XC90 owners with failed transmissions. Volvo are not admitting the extent of the problem yet but I intend to publicise it as this failure is so common and so dangerous when it happens that I will be pushing for a full safety recall.
    I have contacted VOSA and ROSPA (UK agencies that monitor car safety) for advice but would be grateful to hear from any other owners who have had XC90 transmission failure to build a case for a full no cost recall of these cars. The 2003/2004 models with GM transmissions seem particularly prone to failure.
  • oldjim3oldjim3 Posts: 13
    I own a 2004 XC90 T-6 AWD with over 85k miles on it and have had NO transmission problems. I work the transmission very hard climbing hills and driving on unpaved mountain roads. I often use the transmission to brake the vehicle when driving on steep roads.

    I was led to believe the transmission in the 2004 is different than the one in the 2003. However, I do not claim to be a Volvo expert even though I have driven the brand for over 35 years.

    Next week may be a different story, but for now I am very happy with my XC90.

    - OldJim
  • kari4kari4 Posts: 15
    I really like it when I come across a good xc90 story!! I really hope mine is one of the ones with no problems. I am going to look into the whole 2003 vs 2004 transmission to see what I can find out. I was under th eimpression that the bum tanny was on all T6 models which were discontinued in 2005.

    Kari
  • I have a 2008 xc90 awd 6cyl when turning hard to the left i have a poping noise.
    Went to the dealer said i had a bent bolt in the lower control arm probabley caused
    by hitting a pot hole!. They would not cover it under warranty and wanted 450.00 to
    repair it, went to my local mech. charged me 60.00 dollars and i am as good as new,any one this issue with a bent bolt?
  • kari4kari4 Posts: 15
    I had a similar thing on my xc90. I went to the mechanic and he said it was a loose bolt, not bent but not tightened properly. The sound went away for a few hundred kms and is now back off and on. That is what I find so frustrating is that it isn't a constant noise that can be pin pointed and fixed, I just took mine in to get new tires and I asked them to drive it and see what they thought the noise may be and when I went to pick it up, they said they couldn't make it make the noise. I am just getting used to all the pops clunks and groans from the front end, I think maybe it is just the way it is unfortunately.
  • I own a 2004 XC90 T6 and my transmission failed at just under 50,000 miles. I'm still having problems after replacing the transmission in January of this year. Volvo paid for the parts but I had to pay for the labor, $1500. I have taken it back to the dealer several times since. The car still jerks when I start up from a stop. It doesn't do it all the time. I am very interested in a class action suit against Volvo. A full no cost recall even sounds better. Let me know what needs to be done.
  • kari4kari4 Posts: 15
    Count me in. As of yet I have not had transmission problems but I have ben told by a Volvo dealer that I will at some piont have to deal with this issue.... So if he knows that you can bet Volvo knows it and is just hoping no one organizes and actually makes this happen. I mean honestly, what engineer decided to put a GM transmission that GM usually put in their sunfire cars in a frigging volvo SUV???? did they save tons of money doing it??? did no one ever step in and say wait a minute lets look at the torque this motor is putting out compared to what this transmission can handle. I think that when you have a company thats motto is Volvo for life, they should stand behind that and actually make it possible for us T6 owners to actually trust this car to last us a decent amount of time. I find the most frustrating thing with my car right now is the lack of confidence I have in it. I find it unacceptable that I have a $50,000 car that is just 4 yrs old and I can't trust it to take me on vacation this summer two provinces over!! :confuse:
  • Where do I sign my name on the class action? At 92K miles, the dealership broke the news yesterday about seeing large chunks of metal shavings when changing my transmission fluid. I got a bill for $7500 (new trannie, new radiator, lines including labor), but dealership agreed to pay 50%...I'm sensing guilt from Volvo. I rather have them fund 100% after reading many XC90 transmission failure messages. Regardless, this is extremely disappointing considering my XC90 is less than 5 years, and have been consistent with my regular maintenance. :sick:
  • sarduccisarducci Posts: 4
    The Volvo response is that they always "pay for half" or "pay for the parts". It's all crap, who knows what the actual parts cost? They just pretend that they are doing you a big favor. The real Volvo automobile died when GM got involved. This is not your father's Volvo. I'll never buy one again.
  • kari4kari4 Posts: 15
    I will never buy one either. I will also tell everyone I know to stay away from them.
  • I have a 2004 XC90 and the transmission failed at 83,000 miles three weeks ago. Very shocked since this is our fourth Volvo and never expected complete transmission failure at relatively low mileage. I do not expect to buy another Volvo (my wife's prior Volvo--a sedan--was a problem car as well so perhaps the engineering of Volvos has deteriorated significantly in the last 10 years).
  • kari4kari4 Posts: 15
    I am not at all impressed with volvo. I bought this car thinking that it would be one of those things that you spend more on initially but end up saving money in the long run because it would last us forever. There is not a chance in hell this car will last us forever, not even close.
    I think engineering and quality have suffered, and many blame ford for this but truthfully, I have a ford windstar van sitting in my garage that we were going to sell once we bought the volvo, thank heavens we didn't because I think I should have at least one reliable vehicle in the garage! That van never gave us one day of worry or problems. People can say what they want but for the cost of this car, it sure is a piece of crap.
  • dcxplantdcxplant Posts: 7
    Two and a half weeks ago my 2004 T6 XC90 jerked for the first time. Took it to the dealer Friday,April 25th the car drove perfectly all day even after I picked it up. Saturday, April 26th at 9pm, I'm driving alone on the Interstate and the TRANSMISSION SERVICE URGENT light comes on, the car loses power the RPMs are running up with no acceleration. The vehicle has 53,897 miles on it!! All 4 tires were replaced at 21,000 miles due to excess wear of the factory Pirelli tires, the tie rod on the left side has been replaced (the infamous popping noise), the ball joint, and I'm on the second set of front brakes. What's up Volvo??

    This transmission thing breaks it for me with Volvo. I bought this vehicle believing it would be the last one I purchased for a long time...that I'd drive it till the wheels came off.....little did I know that would be less that 2 years after I owned it and that the transmission would be failing before the thing is even paid for.

    So if there's going to be a lawsuit, let's get it on. Write your letters to Volvo today and to your state's Attorney General (and the local media if it will help bring attention to this). The address, in case you need it:
    Volvo Cars of North America, LLC
    PO Box 914
    Rockleigh, N.J. 07647 :lemon:
  • dcxplantdcxplant Posts: 7
    I agree with you about GM. Had I known GM had anything to do with Volvo, I would have NEVER spent my hard earned money on it. I waited 20 years to buy the investment vehicle that would last forever...guess they got me good huh? Tires, brakes x2, now the transmission! And the guy at the dealership service desk was very honest about the fact the T6 has a bad rep. :lemon:
  • somar90somar90 Posts: 1
    I have a loaded 2004 T6 and have spent WELL over $10,000 in repairs and service (about $3,000 was my fault) since owning this vehicle. Thank god I purchased the extended warranty, it paid for itself in just one visit! Today I was driving on the freeway and experienced this "slipping" and almost crashed as I was going 75 or 80 when my car decided it would be fun to bounce off the rev-limiter and provide no power. I tried going to manual mode but got nothing, and it finally caught a gear at very high rpm, and the back axel engaged so violently the DSTC system had to intervene. I have known this transmission was going to cause me trouble at one point or another, and I guess today will be the day. I had it towed to the dealer, and will be shocked if the transmission DOESN'T need to be replaced. I hit 64,000 miles today and have never missed a service and replace the tires every year (tread is completely gone by then) and brakes about twice a year. I would say I drive this car harder than the average driver, but nothing extreme.

    And also with the popping and grinding in the front end... I have experienced the very same thing and every time I take it in the dealer "fixes it," and a week or two later its back just as bad as before. So when I ever I take in for service I tell them about it and give me this speech about how it can't be duplicated or look at me like I'm crazy. I like to think that all the problems are due to it being Volvo's first SUV, and I've heard the V8 is a whole lot better. I am hoping the new transmission is smoother or faster, but I know I shouldn't get excited!
  • radicalronradicalron Posts: 1
    I have just joined the transmission failure club at 94K miles on my 05 T6. I have been quoted 5K for repairs and that will make 10K in repairs in 3 months.

    Sign me up for a class action on this one. This is the worst vehicle I have ever owned. On top of the repairs it eats tires every 20K mils (and that is pushing it ) I have to drop $800 in rubber.
  • Update on my XC90 repair bill...

    I got the dealership to pay 60% (from 50%) of original $7500 bill for my new transmission, radiator, lines and labor. I simply pointed the Dealership Service Manager and their Volvo Account Exec from SoCal to this discussion forum to help prove my point. I would still have rather NOT pay a single dime, which is why I am in the middle of crafting a scathing letter to Volvo Corporate. Thanks for the address dcxplant.

    WRITE THOSE LETTERS, EVERYONE! YOU OWE IT TO YOURSELF. :mad:
  • kari4kari4 Posts: 15
    I would gladly write a letter as well. I am looking at endless repair bills. Now the Cruise Control disengages during highway driving. Just one more thing.... I am now at the point where I don't think this car will ever NOT have a problem and nothing surprises me anymore, actually that is a lie, I would be surprised if I were able to drive this car without having things go wrong... THAT would be surprising!
  • dcxplantdcxplant Posts: 7
    You can file a complaint with the NHTSA by going to www.safecars.gov
  • wknepperwknepper Posts: 1
    I have a Volvo xc90 2005 with a v6 engine. My transmission is slipping and the transmission urgent light is one. I am in a fight with the volvo home office. This has been an obvious issue and they need to be held accountable. My service manager in Erie, PA is fighting for us to get help with the 5200.00 expense. We are at a 1200.00 allowance thus far and am not in the least bit satisfied. The home office's response was that if they did it for one they would have to do it for all. My response was, well if there are that many transmission issues, then you are accountable!! COUNT ME IN for a class action suit!!!
  • dcxplantdcxplant Posts: 7
    Kari4,
    Good to hear somebody is trying to help with your issue. I just called my dealership service manager to let him know that they problem they tried the fix with the help of the Volvo engineers about 3 weeks ago didn't work. My T6 XC90 now has 54000 miles and is in the early stages of what was happening in the first place. Cost $1200 to replace the CEM some module that controls the vehicle. It took a full week for this service to happen. A manufacturing defect is a defect and Volvo corporate are accountable for this transmission issue, a much as the "reputation" for safety they are quick to publicize. I sent in a complaint to the NTHSA a couple of weeks ago. :lemon:
    Write letters to Volvo USA!!!
  • dcxplantdcxplant Posts: 7
    Agree about the tires...I'm on the second set. First ones replaced for excessive wear at 21000 miles. Those were Perilli, the Michelins aren't wearing as fast but look like they have about 70-80K miles on them.
  • aalqudwahaalqudwah Posts: 3
    I have 2005 T6 XC90 and has 44,000 miles. While I was driving my car I noticed a noise comes on and off. I took it to the dealer for a check to find out that I need a new transmission. Even though the car is still under warranty but I'm afraid that once it runs out I will have the same problem again. I agree about the tires, so far I changed my tires twice. I also took it back to the dealer so many times in the past 2 years for clicks and weird noises. I'm really frustrated even though I'm not paying anything so far. I have invested dearly for this car to only get frustrations rather than satisfaction. I second all comments and count me as the last victim for now!!
  • lhn5lhn5 Posts: 37
    I have a 2004 xc90 T5 and the transmission had to be replaced at 32k miles. Of course this was under warranty. Thank goodness we also have the extended warranty. About 4 weeks ago, at around 60k miles, the car started shifting a bit off, and soon the Urgent Transmission Service light comes on. We bring it to the dealer, they reset the light, it doesnt come back on, and they say everything is fine. Under protest they kept the car for 4 days and drove it all around and stuck with their story. The car drove ok for about 2 weeks, and started acting up again. Then the light came on again. We brought it in, and they drove it and said it is fine. They will hook it up to the computer tomorrow.

    They are already hinting that they expect to find nothing, and they will require us to pay for upgrading the software and a transmission flush before much more is done.

    I guess they won't be happy until the transmission fails on the freeway and people die. Any suggestions would be great. We have to stick together.
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