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  • gs3gs3 Posts: 11
    its not a secret anymore.
    go to the following site to review the full blown inside and outside pictures of the 2009 maxima. enjoy!! ;)

    http://forums2.freshalloy.com/showthread.php?t=181090
  • iwantoneiwantone Posts: 52
    I actually like the new design, it combines the look that I like about the Accord, the Altima and the Infiniti. I only hope the price will be reasonable. I hate the overall look of the new Accord. I was leaning toward the Altima. The Altima is nice, but the tail lights have to grow on me. I can't afford the Infiniti . The new Max just might be the right fit if the price is right. In my opinion the :blush: butt ugly redesign award goes to the 2008 Honda Accord Sedan . Honda got confused on this one. This is coming from a long time honda lover and owner.
  • REMINDS ME OF THE Q SERIES FROM INFINITI BUT I LIKE IT CANT WAIT FOR IT !!
  • johnmarcojohnmarco Posts: 22
    Wow. I haven't been that immediately taken with a design since the European version of the Mazda 6 (still bummed we're not getting that.) That is an absolutely beautiful design.

    One negative for me is they've borrowed Infiniti's navigation dash design, which looks very strange to me.

    But that exterior. Wow. I can't wait to see it in person. I too really like the Altima but still hate the tail lamps. Thank God Nissan played it cool on these rear lamps.
  • steevosteevo Posts: 340
    Funny, I love the Altima rear. To me the Altima front is too plain. I also think the new Accord Sedan is fugly, but the Accord Coupe is sweet looking.
    This new Maxima looks awesome! There is mention on the Nissan site of a dual panel roof and other things not seen in the pics so there is more to come. Maybe AWD??
  • kjnormankjnorman Posts: 243
    I have been very impressed with what I have seen so far. This may be my next car (I currently drive a 2000 Audi A4).

    The only disappointment I have so far is the lack of AWD. I have stated to my friends and family that I will never buy again a car without AWD. I love the look and features in the new Maxima but 290HP though the front wheels could be a major issue for torque steer. Hopefully Nissan have done their homework here if they want this thing to be a sports sedan.

    Things I want in my next car:
    Memory seats (it gets shared with my wife) - check
    Heated seats - check
    (nice to have) Cooled seats - check
    Auto dimming rearview mirrors (all of them - not just the center) - don't know on this
    Remote start - don't know on this
    AWD - doesn't look like it at the moment
    Bluetooth - check
    iPod control - check
    Spacious - check
    Good looking - check
    Quality interior - check (I think - as it looks a lot better than Nissans in the past)

    I really hope the interior holds up as I have been disappointed with Nissan interiors when I have looked at them previously. Bad enough that I discounted their cars. This one looks like an Infinity so hopefully the quality is there as well.
  • steevosteevo Posts: 340
    My 2005 Maxima had heated side mirrors and even a heated steering wheel so hopefully they carried that stuff over. Torque steer on the 2005 was brutal, but once used to it easy enough to compensate. The torque steer was eliminated in the Altima so I'll assume it will be further improved on with the Max. I still have some hope for AWD, I guess we will find out Monday.
    Remote Start.. inexpensive to add but I have heard it is problematic with the push button start and remote entry features so an oem solution would be nice.
  • johnmarcojohnmarco Posts: 22
    After posting I looked closer and noticed Nissan added a weird flourish on the headlamps. Not something that would prevent me from buying this car (much like the bulging headlamps on the Accord) but annoying nonetheless.

    Nissan has this habit of adding at least one extra bit of exterior weirdness to every car they make. Apparently others find these features attractive, but they bug me as I like very clean, jewelry-free exteriors. Examples are:

    -- Strange door handles on 350z (why not flush with doors, very ugly!)

    -- Weird big black plastic thingy on tailgates of Titan and Frontier (no other truckmaker does this and that's a good thing)

    -- Already mentioned the taillamps on the Altima (better than last model's but still bizarre to me)

    -- Roof tumor on Armada and QX

    -- Chrome strip on trunk lid of G35

    -- All kinds of clutter on Xterra (although at least some is functional)

    So I like Nissan products but I just with they were a little cleaner.
  • johnmarcojohnmarco Posts: 22
    I just read on the Edmunds News that this Maxima is actually shorter! That's exciting. First they shrink the Altima and now the Maxima. I was annoyed that the Accord got so much bigger, and I think the Camry should not grow another inch. Nissan seems alone in not always expanding their sedans. When it's needed, so be it, but, for example the old Accord, that was the perfect size.
  • iwantoneiwantone Posts: 52
    Does anyone know if only certain colors or trim will have the wood grain?
  • johnmarcojohnmarco Posts: 22
    My expectation would be that Nissan would make detailed information like that available when they announce pricing and expected delivery dates. Are you hoping to have wood grain or avoid it? Guessing you want it. I actually dislike the wood look, preffering metallic trims.
  • kjnormankjnorman Posts: 243
    So any idea as to when pricing and configuration details will be available?

    From what I read this car should be available in June, so I would hope this information is forthcoming soon.
  • iwantoneiwantone Posts: 52
    Yes I do want the wood look. But if the pricing is not right I will be avoiding the max all together and going for the Altima. I have been a long time owner of the Accord, but the new design is too ugly. The Accords are dependable but so boring.
  • johnmarcojohnmarco Posts: 22
    Hopefully they won't jack the price too bad. One thing about the Maxima that has been true for the last few years is that even though it is priced much higher than the Altima, you can actually get one for less since they are discounted pretty heavily at the dealers. I doubt that would be the case right away with a new model but maybe in a year or so if this design is not a big succes then you might see the actual transaction price dip below the high-end Altimas.

    I'm looking forward to the diesel Maxima which is expected as a 2010 model.

    Like I said I'm also a big fan of the Altima. It pretty much won me over the moment I saw it at the 2007 LA Auto Show. The only thing that surprises me is that Nissan is not more competitive with MSRP. They are priced just like Accords and Camrys, but Nissan ought to be undercutting, like Hyundai, to get more foothold. Again that may be happening at the dealer level, but it is quite off-putting to me when I configure the Altima I like (3.5 SE w/leather) and it's $30k! That sure makes a $25k Sonata Limited look pretty appealing. For $30k I'm creeping pretty close to G35/TL territory.
  • iwantoneiwantone Posts: 52
    Unfortunately I can't wait until next year, I will have to purchase around September. Looking to trade my 2001 Accord without putting any mechanical work into it and not wanting to put a lot more miles on it either. I will be looking at the reviews especially user reviews. My brother has a 2004 Max and the ride is sweet compared to my Honda. Accords are boring and road noise is bad. Accord's new design is ugly.
  • flightnurseflightnurse 35K feetPosts: 1,686
    I highly doubt AWD well come on the new Max, the only Jan manufacture that offers AWD (besides) Subaru is the Acrua RL, and that isn't selling well. Nissan is bring back the 4DSC marketing campain of the late 80' to mid 90;s Max, which I think is great. AWD would add too much weight and only a very small market wants it. I'm sure it well have Traction control, and all the other electronic control system so AWD wont be needed.

    I'm predicting the prices wont be much higher then the current car, if you look at the other japaness car companys, the only real competition for the new MAX is the Acrua TL, (which BTW get a new design for 09.) if you look at the current MAX, load it up with options its less then the TL. So my bet is, Nissan will do the same with the new 09 MAX...
  • gleen6191gleen6191 Posts: 80
    the new accord is not fugly bro. its nice. i have had a 5 series, an allroad, an A6 and now a M35x. my next car will be fuel efficient - 2008 Accord 4 cyl EX-l with nav.

    BM
  • flightnurseflightnurse 35K feetPosts: 1,686
    Rememvber, just because you like don't mean everybody else do.
  • johnmarcojohnmarco Posts: 22
    You're more daring than me. I have this cardinal rule of car shopping that I won't buy a car in its first year of production. I look at cars like software: the real testing happens when the product gets in the hands of hundreds of thousands of people. Maybe you can put some small fixes into your Accord and survive another year? Also, your 2001 needs work? What?!

    I actually go back and forth on the new Accord. From some angles I really like it, and from others it just leaves me cold. One thing I don't vary on is disliking the size. Way too big now. The good news for me is that I've disliked every Accord update, but after a year or two it grows on me and by the time it's replaced I think they should just leave it alone.

    I was thinking recently about why the Accord grew so much, and I think one of the reasons is that Honda does not have an Avalon equivalent. So basically the Accord sits in the middle, and could be cross-shopped by buyers in both the Camry class and the Avalon class. That's my guess: Honda was trying to hedge their bets.

    Regarding AWD in the Maxima, I too think it a remote possibility. Nissan already has an AWD sport-sedan; it's called the G35x.

    Dude, BM, you've owned some choice autos. It's interesting to me that you're willing to drive Japanese after several German models. It seems like German car lovers are usually extremely dedicated, and look down very harshly on the Japanese cars.
  • flightnurseflightnurse 35K feetPosts: 1,686
    Regarding first year model ownership. I bought a 07 Nissan Versa in Aug of 06, and in the year and half of ownership never had any mechanical problems with the car, and I had 25K miles on it. Current we have a two 08s, a Altima Coupe and Rogue. I think most of the manufactures have the bugs out of the cars before production starts.
  • johnmarcojohnmarco Posts: 22
    I'm glad you've had good luck with your new Nissans. I still think it's risky though (for any brand.) There are so many examples of first-year fixes that have to go in, though (e.g. bad clutch in the 2007 G35, fixed for 2008.) Not like the engine's gonna fall out or anything, but still, that's me, play it very safe.

    Regarding the Versa, that's actually a "world" car that had already been in production for some time overseas. So they had some time to work out any bugs by the time you picked one up.
  • iwantoneiwantone Posts: 52
    If the new Max is scheduled to go on sale the early summer, when does Nissan announce actual pricing ? Also is it more expensive to insure a Max compared to other sedans?
  • alexstorealexstore Posts: 264
    well they will probably announce pricing soon. Now in reference to insuring 05 Maxima, they are listed as midsize sedan and in my case had no increase
  • johnmarcojohnmarco Posts: 22
    If you want to ballpark the price for yourself why not just assume a 5% bump? I have no idea when they might announce pricing though.

    Regarding insurance, I wouldn't know that either, but your insurance company can cut out the guesswork for you. Just call them and have them price the premium on a 2008 Accord EX-L V6, a Camry XLS V6, and a 2008 Maxima SL. Again that should give you some ballpark to work with.
  • flightnurseflightnurse 35K feetPosts: 1,686
    Regarding pricing, the last 3 new Nissans I have bought (07 Versa, 08 Rogue, 08 Altima Coupe) nissan released these earlier then what thier web site stated. THe Versa I could build 2 months before he car was released so I knew the price then. The Rogue and Coupe were released on thier web site 3 weeks before the dealers got them. So I would guess if nissan is saying early summer, I would start looking on thier web site the middle of May.

    Regarding insurance, we went from a 99 MAX to a 05 Altima sedan SE 3.5 and the insurance didnt go up much. You have to remember that when yuo buy a new car iinsurnace well alway go up, usally not by much.
  • johnmarcojohnmarco Posts: 22
    Check out Nissan's webpage. They put up a nice preview site of the new Maxima.
  • Does anyone else think the frontend on the 2009 Maxima resemble the last model Infiniti Q45?
  • iwantoneiwantone Posts: 52
    Yes I do. It is very classy looking.
  • kgabekgabe Posts: 25
    WHEN is this 09' model going to be in on dealers lots for purchase?
  • flightnurseflightnurse 35K feetPosts: 1,686
    Well I'm sitting here at my Nissan Dealer having a service done on my Nissan, I talked to the Sales Manager and he doesn't know the excat date. But as I can tell you, the past couple of new models have been released a little early. the Versa was to have been released in Fall of 06 (as a 07) but was released late summer (Aug of 06) the Rogue was released early also, as well as the Altima Coupe. The new Max's website says the summer of 08, I would be safe in saying that they should be arriving at dealerships very soon...
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