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2009 Nissan Maxima

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  • I cannot comment on 2009 Max...
    But in 00-'08 max and 2000+ Infiniti I30 this is very common problem. They both have a VQ engine. Lot of folks have ro replace ignition coils at around 70K to 80K mile range.
    (google Maxima "Chk engine")

    I have 2000 infiniti I30 and that has similar problems..I have noticed following, and I dont have any explanation,

    1) Car is EXTREMELY sensitive to the gasoline you put in.
    Seems to work better (No Chk engine light) with Chevron or Shell Premium gas.

    2) If I let fuel gauge go down to below 1/4 then the probability of chk engine light goes up.

    3) Fillup in extremely hot weather followed by highway driving in 70+ mph increase the probability

    As I said these are only observation and may not be related to the problem..

    Dealers will reset the computer and charge you $300.00 for it every time it happens. Or you can disconnect the battery... sometimes overnight and it will reset the computer

    Sanjay
  • go_mdx1go_mdx1 Posts: 135
    Yep, I agree with Habitat on the test drive part here..if you are looking at a Sport Model, you really need to do your homework. Anyone who has done extensive testing of sport models vs. standard models (TL vs TL-S, G35 vs. G35S, and same for Maxima's) will know that the sport models will have a much rougher ride + side bolstered seats that make longer trips less enjoyable. Also, at the end of each model year, the "sport models" appear to be the ones still on dealers lots - this is especially true on the G35S.

    BTW: I've been VERY VERY HAPPY with the balance of ride/performance in my 2009 Maxima (non-Sport model). While I agree its not a true 4DSC like perhaps a Mitsubishi Evo, I'm very happy with its performance. It clearly beats my current generation Acura TL in performance - and I drive both these cars back-to-back on a daily basis!
  • Use premium gas. The dealer filled mine up with regular when we bought it and the service engine soon light came on! If you read you manual you will see that the new Maxima requires premium and if you must use regular to only fill it half full and do not open up the throttle! Once I filled up with premium my light stopped coming on.
  • flightnurseflightnurse 35K feetPosts: 1,630
    Does it say REQUIRES or RECOMMENDS premium fuel ?
  • Don't quite understand the point of your comment, what comparison are you talking about, the 07 and 08 are the same, actually the 04 through the 08 are the same Maxima, which one do you drive?

    I drive the 09.

    don;t know where the altima reference came from in your message.

    From when you wrote the following:

    This model resembles the Altima sibling more so than any previous model, why pay the difference.

    . II never said the car was a POS

    You wrote the following, and it sounds like a POS to me:

    As the owner of an 07 Maxima with CVT, fuel guzzling machine, that is the worst transmission ever put into a car. My 07 has one extra gear compared to the 04 I traded in, it also has 10 fewer horsepower and 18 inch wheels vs. 17 inches and still gets me 4 to 5 fewer miles to the gallon than the 04, go figure.

    I can say for sure that the CVT in the '09 is not the worst transmission ever put into a car.

    The bottom line is, the '09 Maxima is a very different car than your '07 Maxima, or the Nissan Altima.
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    It clearly beats my current generation Acura TL in performance - and I drive both these cars back-to-back on a daily basis!

    It may not be a fair comparison, but in my opinion the performance and fun to drive factor of my 2004 TL 6-speed is way, way above the 2009 Maxima SV I drove back in July. The Nissan can almost match the TL 6-speed in straight line acceleration, but that's it. The tighter sport suspension and Brembo brakes that come along with the short throw 6-speed (a crisper gearbox than a BMW 335) all contribute to an enjoyable, sporty ride. Still not a true 4DSC as you say, given the 3,400 lb curb weight and FWD setup, but getting closer than anything with a CVT or slushbox automatic transmssion. I guess I'll go to the grave with a stickshift in my hand.
  • Well congratulations on your new car, driving something new is always a plus. Although I agree that the design of the previous model certainly had its challenges (the front grill 04-06, the SL wheels, the velour door panels 04-06) and perhaps other things, the new one simply tries so hard to overcome the 04-07 that the body looks overdone. Flares, wave hood (yes the late 90s model Taurus had the same wave), the funky headlights, and truck like front grill all put together make the design too busy. Oh and the dealer near me had the Altimas parked trunk to trunk with the new Max and from that view, the 2 cars are similar, I stood there for a while trying to talk myself out of such a notion but could not. It seems like the same team or the same team approach was used as in the new Mercedes Benz S-Class. There is a way to make a statement without so many styling cues. I also think that an SE (sport version in 07) should provide the snap of shift that the CVT does not allow even with the gate shifter in manual mode, the shifts are too smooth for the sport spirit to come through, and I repeat I get 4 miles to the gallon less than in the non-CVT. Yes the 09 is definitely different than my 07, maybe after seeing a few new ones on the road I will get used to them. I will not be looking at the 09 because I learned from my 04 not to buy 1st year of production, by the time the lease on my 07 is over, the car will have been corrected or so I hope. Enjoy yours in good health, by the way what color is yours?
  • go_mdx1go_mdx1 Posts: 135
    Yep, 6-speed would make the TL a much more fun car to drive over the automatic. But, life is full of trade-offs. Wife still loves her automatic TL. I'll be curious to see how well the new Acura TL does when it hits the show room floors in a few weeks.

    Longer term, it will be interesting to see which car gains more market share in 2009 - Maxima or TL. Body style on TL is definitely controversial. With the current discounts on 09 Maxima's getting close to the $4k mark, they are going to have a pretty significant price advantage over the TLs at the start.
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    I think the 2009 TL SH-AWD with 305 horsepower will pretty much take top honors in performance and all weather versitility. That AWD set up should result in a sub 6 second 0-60 and have it be better balanced (albeit heavier) in the corners. I will be complaining that it weighs too much and doesn't come with a stick, but perhaps an "S" version down the road will take care of the latter.

    Again, I'm not trying to jinx Nissan, but I don't see the 2009 Maxima winning back that much of the market share it lost over the past 10+ years. I just don't think it is a compelling car in the way my 1995 4th generation was. But in fairness, I'm not in the market and haven't seriously shopped the competition.

    I know what you mean that life is full of trade offs. My wife drives a 2005 MDX and the only two things she doesn't like about it are the brakes and the automatic transmission. I brought home a Cayenne GT-S 6-speed manual as a loaner when my 911 was in for service and she didn't want me to give it back! Unfortunately $75k and 13 mpg don't fit into our budget right now.
  • I just picked up the 09 Max on Saturday. I opted for the SV in silver with the sport package. This will be my third Maxima, 02, 07 and now 09 all which have been the sport version. The 02 was a 5spd, the 07 had the CVT as well as the 09. The 09 sport version is probably the first Maxima out of the 3 that closely resembles the word sport. The steering is crisp and precise with the ride being noticeably stiffer (which I personally like). The whole car follows your turns as on complete unit where my 07 used have trouble at times keeping up with the turns.

    The biggest welcomed change for me is the turning radius on the 09. My 07 had the worst turning radius of any car I ever owned, now tight maneuvering is a pleasure!! The CVT was also given some tweaking for the better. It's more responsive the moment you press down on the pedal and it does not have to catch up like the 07. In my 07 if you put the hammer down quick the engine would rev to about 4-5000 rpm's and the CVT would have to catch up. Also, the CVT sounds more throatier now and seems to have shed the whining lawn mower sound.

    I am not a fan of Goodyear RSA's. That is probably the only big thing I am disliking on the car. I hated them on my 07 mainly because they had a short memory on staying balanced and they always needed to warm up in cold weather before they could be considered a round tire.

    Those are just some quick observations in my short time with the car. The car visuals are definitely eye catching, I have had a couple people pull up next to me at a light and tell me how different the car looks.

    If anyone has any 09 questions, just ask!! :D
  • Hey congrats on your new car. Have you experienced the harsh ride that other blogs here are talking about with the sport package. I am glad to hear that the CVT is more responsive in the 09, I agree with all your comments about the one on the 07, it is sluggish and the engine does not sound as good as my 04 without the CVT. Although I am still getting used to the styling of the new MAX and am not fully warmed up to it yet, I do see one in a couple of years when my 07 lease is up. I especially like the new Tuscan Sun color, hard to keep clean but very nice. Did your dealer discount the car at all?
  • Are you referring to the 09 Acura TL? is that the re-styled one or is that the 2010 model that is getting the re-design. I can predict that the re-designed model 09/ or 2010 will certainly cause Nissan Maxima sales to go way up, what was Acura thinking with that design? it actually resembles the out-going Maxima and the front grill also resembles the mistake made by Nissan in the 04-06 model. Get the present model TL while you can.
  • Congrats on the new car, nemesis04. You now own the pinnacle in evolution of the Maxima line. This is hands-down the best Maxima ever built (although - as silly as it may sound - some will tell you that pinnacle was reached in 1995...whatever).

    The '09 Maxima is an excellent convergence of sporty performance and luxury comfort. And it's the best value around for an entry-level luxury car.

    While this claim may be disputed by naysayers on this forum, I have yet to read anything but glowing reviews from any bonafide car critics (other than a warm review as the result of a goofy comparison between the Maxima's 6-cylinder versus Pontiac's 8-cylinder...but that was largely a meaningless match-up). And I couldn't be happier with mine.

    Enjoy it!
  • Thanks! Really enjoying the new car.

    As far as the harsh ride is concerned, it is stiffer than passed years but nothing that I would call severe or unbearable, it really is more sport tuned. My 07 was a sport but to be honest they only thing that was different on that were the tires, the suspension parts were the same on both models. If you live in areas where the roads are rough this package should be skipped and the premium package should be sought after.

    I was able to land the SV with the sport package for $32,400. A lot of back and forth but this was my third car from the dealership.
  • Thanks cyberpunk! I will enjoy it!

    To me 09 feels like the biggest jump in value and luxury from the other two models I previously owned.
  • go_mdx1go_mdx1 Posts: 135
    I do see the styling resemblances between the Altima and Maxima. Other ones are bit of a stretch to me.

    One feature that makes the Maxima "unique" in my opinion is the tail lights at night. I've always liked car that have a unique light pattern that makes them distinctive 50 to 100 yards away.

    The inverted hockey stick LED tail lights are unique. If you know of another car which emits a similar light pattern, let me know.
  • go_mdx1go_mdx1 Posts: 135
    Wow....our cars are very similar. I've got an MDX as well - carpool car. Wife normally drives the TL. One of my kids drives the 97 Maxima. Unfortunately, I have no 911. My "fun car" is a 65 V8 Mustang Convertible.

    Last fall, I came close to getting a 2008 Cayenne (V6) to replace the MDX but the car I was looking at had interior electrical problems. Also, it was hard to get the right set of options without paying thru the nose. So, I passed.
  • Ten days ago the "service engine" light came on. Dealer supposedly checked it out and reset light. Two days later it came on again. Dealer and Nissan are not responsive to problem. They got my $35,000 and treat the customer like a moron. Major buyer's remorse here.
  • tom17tom17 Posts: 134
    What happened when you brought the car in the second time? Did they just reset the light again?
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    I can predict that the re-designed model 09/ or 2010 will certainly cause Nissan Maxima sales to go way up, what was Acura thinking with that design?

    I don't think so. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. My 1995 Maxima SE was resoundly criticized for an ugly exterior / rear end when it first came out, but as soon as the real enthusiasts got ahold of it, it took Car of the Year awards as the best entry level luxury performance sedan from Japan, bar none.

    And, unfortunately, pretty as it might look, now that the Maxima has ballooned to 3,600 lbs (on a FWD platform) and only offers a CVT transmission, the likelihood of them getting any serious driving enthusiasts to give it the same level of accolades isn't "slim", it's "none". I believe that is where the 305hp TL SH-AWD will clearly be superior to the FWD Maxima. If Acura dares to throw in the same short throw 6-speed that is in my 2004 TL, Nissan doesn't have a prayer of competing in performance with a FWD CVT Maxima. The TL will be more in the league of a 335ix. But the TL will probably cost several thousand more, so there is still room for both.
  • Wow - that is a serious bummer, rkurlander. Doesn't get more frustrating than that, with such a new car.

    Good luck - please keep us posted as to both the customer service and whatever is causing that light to come on.
  • This problem is sometimes caused by not properly closing your gas tank cap after fueling up. Check your car manual. Make sure you tighten the gas tank cap so that you hear several "clicks" after you feel it is already tight.
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    Sounds like you have a faulty O2 sensor. That's what has happened to me a couple of times over 14 years.
  • Hey I drove a 2001 Maxima and recall some bad comments about the tail lights on the 1999-2003 model, I cannot recall rear end issues with the 1995 model though. Are we talking about the same body style? I googled the 1995 model and it was a good looking car all around.
    I guess the new TL will get some getting used to but from the first glance, it is a weird car from the A-pillar forward. I kind of like the rear end edginess and overall it does resemble my 07 Maxima which I do like. I am only shocked at the front end, hood, and front fenders on the TL. Preaching to the quire about the CVT on the Maxima, I hate it.
    I will say this though, if the choice were totally driven by power, neither the TL or Maxima would sell at all, Pontiac's new G8 would take all the TL and Maxima sales. Fully loaded, with V8, the G8 stickers for 32K including Leather, can't beat that at all. Only draw back to the G8 is that in its first year the only interior color is black but otherwise a killer car getting great reviews from the car magazines. See the Motor Trend article where it compares the G8 to the Maxima, blew it away.
    If the TL is higher priced than the 335xi then the choice is clear.
  • Hi my Pathfinder lease is up this winter. I love the new Maxima. I am stuck between the Infiniti G35 or the 2009 Maxima. What you guys think is a better car. Thanks
  • Hello Sanjay
    - your experience is identical to my findings with my 2001 Maxima. I find that Shell premium works fine and note ( Canada here ) that there is no ethanol in their Gold premium gasoline at all. Their lower grades have 5-10 % ethanol and that mix causes problems with check lights in hot weather due to high evaporation in the fuel tank.

    Other brands are blending with ethanol and it's not any different. Best to check what's written on the gas pump fine print and avoid independents who buy gas from any bulk wholesale supplier with mystery blends of refinery crap out there.

    Esso and Ultramar are reliable premium brands here - Shell in my area gets the nod because of a greater number stations conveniently located.

    I've pulled the battery connection, too when the check light went on and done the radio and clock resets patiently ! Dealers love selling expensive sensors to unsuspecting people instead of trying to offer simple solutions as above.

    - Waterloo Guy.
  • Interesting question.
    As you might know, the Altima/Maxima/G35, and even the M35/45 are all built on the same platform, or at least they were prior to 2009. That being said, one can guess that the G35 will be re-designed soon. Since the Maxima is the freshest design of the 2, I would pick the Max. The G35 body style has been out for a while, the new curvy version is just a re-fresh of the original but not a major re-design like the Maxima. Good luck with your decision.......
  • prigglypriggly Posts: 642
    Esso and Ultramar are not Top Tier gasolines. In Canada, Shell, Chevron, Petro-Canada and Sunoco Canada all are.

    http://www.toptiergas.com/why.html
  • tom17tom17 Posts: 134
    If you can wait a month or two and price is not a big issue you definately ought to get the G35. The 09 (due out this month) will have a 7 speed transmission that should cure the G35's only real problem - excessive highway RPM (3400 @ 80) & low fuel economy. They are also replacing the 3.5 engine with a 320 HP 3.7 engine (new name is G37). Of course the 09 G37 will sell for several thousand more than the Maxima. By the way it is also RWD which (unless you get lots of snow) is a definate improvement.
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