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2008.5 MAZDASPEED 3

indydriverindydriver Posts: 620
edited July 19 in Mazda
I am starting this discussion to hear the latest from new buyers of the Speed3, especially those built in January '08 and later with the new body colors and interior upgrades. Let's hear about your buying experience, how long it took to get your car, how you like the new alcantara seats and piano black interior trim, white and gray colors and prices paid. I will be buying soon. I was just offered $300 below invoice for an in-stock purchase by March 31.
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  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    I guess that is a desperate dealer. We have gotten full MSRP for every Mazdaspeed3 we have had. If I were you, I would take that deal before that dealer wakes up and realize how stupid they are being.
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,381
    I would take that deal before that dealer wakes up and realize how stupid they are being.

    I agree; my local dealer-Oxmoor Mazda in Louisville KY-has an ADM sticker on all their MS3s and won't let you drive one without a signed buyer's order. I wound up buying my MS3 from Kings Mazda in Cincinnati for MSRP, but they didn't charge me for trucking in the car I wanted from Cleveland, and I get free 5K mile oil changes for as long as I own the car. Best of all, the Kings sales and service staff are first-rate and have always treated me with respect.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • indydriverindydriver Posts: 620
    Did you get a 2008.5 i.e., manufactured after Jan. 08 with the interior upgrades? I am looking for feedback on the quality of the upgrades and whether it is worth ordering from the factory.
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,381
    Did you get a 2008.5 i.e., manufactured after Jan. 08 with the interior upgrades?

    Sorry, forgot to mention that mine is an '07. As for the '08.5 interior upgrades, the only thing I've seen that I don't like is the piano black trim. It looks like a cheap aftermarket kit and it shows every fingerprint and speck of dirt. To each his own, however...

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • indydriverindydriver Posts: 620
    It probably depends on how healthy your particular local market is. It sounds like you work for a dealer, where?
  • indydriverindydriver Posts: 620
    What is a "reasonable" doc fee for a dealer. I see it as pure profit for the dealer.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    I don't think I really have much to stand on when I say what I think is fair for a doc fee, since the company I work for has one. Ours is $249. I have seen then as high as $499, and as low as $99 in the tri-state area (NY, NJ, CT). I think ours is fair, because most of my competition has much higher doc fees.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    I know roadburner disagrees with me, but, I think the 2008.5 upgrades are much nicer. I really like the new cloth interior inserts as well as the piano black accents. I also like the white gauge needles. Also, the 2008.5 upgrade will set you apart from other MS3 owners because they look different, and there will be less of them. Dealers should have them on their lots now. I have two, a white and a metro gray. You should go see for yourself.

    BTW, I think April is the last month you can actually order a Mazdaspeed3. As of now, there is no plan to continue the Mazdaspeed3 for 2009. Good luck.
  • indydriverindydriver Posts: 620
    Thank you for your response and your insights. As I have researched many MS3 forums, I have seen many helpful insights from you. Here in Indiana, doc fees typically run around $150, however, we have a positive "market adjustment" on all Mazdas sold here. On the GT I'm looking at, it is $212 and it is on the invoice. Based on the aggressive pricing I'm seeing here, I suspect that Mazda suspends this on occasion for those dealers receiving high customer satisfaction ratings. I'm hearing 90% is a key level. Anyway, I know I've got a good deal going here and I certainly plan to take advantage of it. I'm trying to locate a black 2008.5 for immediate purchase, and I already have a factory order as a back up. While I haven't seen them in person, I am hopefully agreeable with your observations of the improvements made by the mid-year interior upgrade. While you are correct that Mazda typically produces MS models for two years, I wouldn't be surprised if with the success of the MS3, they continue producing it into '09 and perhaps beyond.
    BTW, I am assuming the interior upgrades are applied to all colors, not just the new white and grey. Can you confirm that I should expect the same interior on my Black Mica produced after Jan. '08?
  • waydewayde Posts: 198
    I have loved the MS3 since it was announced and came "this close" to buying one... the only thing that prevented me from doing so was that I didn't like any of the 4 colors that it was offered in. Now it's offered in my favorite color - CWP :) and :(
  • indydriverindydriver Posts: 620
    You wouldn't believe the runaround and outright lies fed me by dealer #1. The last lie was that the factory only takes orders for Speed 3's every three months. Turns out, they've used up their allocation. To make a long story short, I have taken my business to Dealer #2 who, not only gave me a better deal, but the straight scoop. They order whenever their allocation opens up. They had a black unit ordered March 7 which had not yet been built so they got the option order changed to my exact specs which are: Homelink mirror (tough to find on the lot), wheel locks, mats and cargo net. Hoping for production and delivery in approximately 60 days. Now I can focus on my wash/polish plan (Zaino) and start planning some mods. TMC short shifter first? New car jones at full speed.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    The last lie was that the factory only takes orders for Speed 3's every three months

    Actually, that is true. Mazdaspeed3 orders are taken quarterly.

    Turns out, they've used up their allocation

    That is totally possible.

    They had a black unit ordered March 7 which had not yet been built so they got the option order changed to my exact specs. Hoping for production and delivery in approximately 60 days

    Don't be surprised if you have to wait an additional 30 days more. Typical order to delivery time is 16 weeks. However, Mazda has altered their production process, and seems to have cut out about 2 weeks of wait time. I'm not saying you wont get it in 60 days, just don't be surprised if it's longer.

    Congrads on your new MS3. BTY, there will be a MS3 in 2009.
  • indydriverindydriver Posts: 620
    I appreciate your insights. I am very happy with Dealer #2. They really wanted my business and gave me a great deal. Hopefully, the delivery process will be as good. I will be a long, hard wait.
  • jp41jp41 Posts: 2
    Care to elaborate on who Dealer #1 and Dealer #2 are? Located in a northern suburb, eastside, westside? I'm in Indy and looking to purchase in the next month or two. Thanks
  • indydriverindydriver Posts: 620
    1=north 2=west. Ask for Ryan Johnson. Tell him GT referred you.
  • jp41jp41 Posts: 2
    Thanks! #1 didn't seem too interested in budging much except for discounting their bogus dealer installed paint protection. I'm hoping to get an 08.5 GT in the metro gray as soon as they are available in our area.
  • indydriverindydriver Posts: 620
    #1 is definitely a disaster. The internet salesman was making written offers his manager wouldn't back. He may have gotten fired over my situation. So, there was a big clamp down on discounts and deals so they could show the staff who's in charge. On the other hand, Ryan was great. He promised that he would earn my business if I gave him a chance, and he did. Everything he communicated to me was backed by his sales manager. Just like it should be. Dealer #1 will never, ever see me again and I'll steer everyone I can away from 1 and over to 2.
  • indydriverindydriver Posts: 620
    My car was manufactured April 21. It took a week to get it on a boat. Two weeks from Hiroshima to Port Tacoma. Two more weeks by rail to Woodhaven, MI, a Detroit suburb that serves as the Midwest prep depot for Mazda. It is scheduled to arrive there today. Hard to say how long it will take to prep then find a trailer for its one day ride to Indy. Hopefully, no more than a week. For anyone waiting on a factory order, ask your dealer for the "VIN Inquiry". This internal document provides step by step dates on the production, shipping and prep of your car. Dealers should use this to their advantage and keep this updated to customers with factory orders. It definitely gets you locked in to your order.
  • sssfegysssfegy Posts: 132
    YUP I AGREE WITH HIM IM A SALESMAN FOR MAZDA IN COLORADO IF THERE SELLING IT TO U AT 300 BEHIND INVOICE I WOULDENT WALK BACK I WOULD RUN BACK BEFORE THEY DO COME TO THERE SENCES.
  • indydriverindydriver Posts: 620
    Are you drunk or what? If you are really a Mazda salesman, I feel sorry for the way Mazda is being represented. You are pathetic. It's a tough time to be selling cars, especially those that require premium gas (now selling for $4.40/gl in IN). Many dealers are discounting EVERYTHING because they are indeed desperate, for good reason. There are many forum reports of Speed 3's being sold for $500 under invoice. So, we know it's possible when the dealer wants to move a unit bad enough. I wish you would identify your dealership so everyone would know to stay far, far away.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    Remember, the Mazdaspeed3 is a "specialty" car. It's a low volume car. If you want to try using the "it uses Premium Gas" trick to get a below invoice price, you might lose. Mazda as a company is not suffering, hence dealers are not suffering. Right now, the regular Mazda3's are in such low inventory, and high demand, that discounts are not as common as they once were.

    If you believe every person who says they bought a Mazdaspeed3 "$500 under invoice", then you are just too gullible. There are a lot of liars here that roam these threads. I'm not saying it is not possible to get a speed3 below invoice, it is just not common.

    For me, times have never been better! We had our biggest volume selling month last month, and I made the most money I ever had in one month too! I guess too bad for me, since times are so bad, right? :P I have seen people begging me to get them out of their gas guzzling cars, and into a fuel efficient Mazda3. It's the general public that is desperate, not the dealers (unless you are a domestic brand that sells nothing but SUV's and trucks)
  • indydriverindydriver Posts: 620
    If I remember correctly, you are in CT and perhaps the market is just different there. For one thing, with all the flooding and hardship here in the Midwest, no one is thinking about buying a car. I don't doubt the reports of <$500 vs. invoice because I bought my car in March at <$300 below. So, I know you want to protect your commissions by not letting potential buyers know what's going on in the rest of the country, but these are the facts. It may never happen in CT, but that's just one more reason not to live on the East coast. ;)
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  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    Times are tough over here too. Gas is $4.47/gal for 87. These CX's are not selling as well as they once were. However, the Mazda3's, Mazda5's, Mazda6's and MX-5's are selling very very well.

    Like I said, $500 under invoice is not common practice. A dealer may be inclined to let one go at that if it helps him reach a volume objective set by Mazda. Who knows! $300 under is definitely a good deal. How are you liking your 2008.5?
  • tripiiiextripiiiex Posts: 2
    Hey guys. I'm just ready to pull the trigger on the Speed3. What are the differences between '08 and '08.5? How are you guys liking the car in comparison to others that you were or are driving? STI is not in a budget right now so Speed3 is the next best thing for my.
  • indydriverindydriver Posts: 620
    I finally got it last Friday. I drove off the lot straight to the tint man, then spent the whole weekend in the garage stripping, washing, clay barring then multiple coats of Zaino polish and glaze. Also removed the door moldings. Now, driving it is a blast! It's a lot smaller, lighter and more powerful than my last car. I also love being back in an MT. In summary, I'm thrilled with it. It has really brought excitement back to driving for me. It reminds me of my old motorcycle days with the way it dispatches traffic. And the Potenza RE050s stick like glue. It is very difficult to find the limit of this car on the street. Anyone thinking about getting one should do it now. They won't be around forever.
  • indydriverindydriver Posts: 620
    See above. Just buy it and don't look back. I guarantee you won't be sorry. The differences are fairly minor and are entirely related to interior changes (seat fabric, dash and steering wheel trim (piano black) plus the addition of white and gray exterior colors and the dropping of silver and blue. So, first off, if you're looking at a silver or blue car, it was made prior to Jan. '08. I'm not sure I would want one that has sat on a lot that long, but that's just me. Mechanically, they are identical. PULL THE TRIGGER!!!!!
  • tripiiiextripiiiex Posts: 2
    Thanks a lot. I am getting a nice offer from the dealer. Although, the value on my '05 Xterra is terrible on the trade. O'well, it will be even worse next year. Thank you for the update. I am looking at the gray or red color. I have to drive it one more time and will most likely do it. Thanks indydriver.
  • indydriverindydriver Posts: 620
    Go for it. It will literally change your life, especially getting out of an Xterra.
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,381
    How are you guys liking the car in comparison to others that you were or are driving?

    After one year and 18,700 miles behind the wheel of my MS3 I am about 95% certain that I am going to sell it in favor of either an E36 or E46 M3(preferably fitted with the Competition Package). Prior to the MS3 I had never owned a FWD car; I bought it because thought it would be fun to try something different. Well, in my situation, different was definitely not better. I've grown sick and tired of the torque steer, wheel hop, and inconsistent power delivery. I'm going to give the sled one last chance on a road course in a few weeks, but I don't expect my opinion to change much- if at all. To be fair, the car has been absolutely trouble free, and my selling/servicing dealer(Kings Mazda, Cincinnati) has been great. The car just isn't a good fit for me.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

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