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2010 Toyota Camry

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  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    Except for the park position, and I'm not even sure about that, there is no mechanical coupling between the "shifter" and the transaxle. Only switches "watched" by the engine/transaxle ECU control firmware, firmware which in the end may be found to be the causative factor.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    No idea, because we dont know what your actual MPG is. Regular should be at least as efficient as premium in a car designed to run on regular.
  • I have 2010 Camry LX 4 cylinder. I now have 4,500 miles on it so I figure it is broken in. I usually drive normal speeds but do find myself driving faster at times because the car drives so darn smooth. Lately I have been driving slower and testing my mpg. I think I have only gotten over 30 mpg once since owning the car. I am very disappointed in this. I called the dealer and they blamed it my area using a lot of ethanol. I went on a trip out of my area and got the same results so if that is the case then all gas pumps must be using a lot of ethanol. The 97 Accord that I just sold always got at least 30 mpg and 32 mpg often.
    I just checked the tire pressure hoping they might be low and this would be the reason for the crappy mileage but the tires are still at 34 psi. I double checked with dealer and Michelin and they agreed to keep tires at what it says on the plate inside the door. Michelin also said the tires that came with my car don't have a regular warranty and I should expect around 20,000 miles out of them. I guess once I get some better tires down the road that the mileage ''may'' increase but the better gas mileage was one of the selling points of me buying the car.
    This question is for 2010 Camry 4 cylinder owners.
    What is your tire pressure?
    Mpg?
    Driving habits?
    Best gas mileage so far?
    Synthetic oil? ( Dealer told me the synthetic oil would give better gas mileage)
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    Toyota on PriusChat said that the official notifications would be going out in early Feb along with a coupon for one free oil change. Don't worry, it'll happen all in good time. Soon your dealer will get the notification and he will admit it to his customers. If not go to another dealer. Life is easy if you don't inject unnecessary stress into it.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    Now you have family sedans pushing 300 hp, and almost exclusively with an automatic transmission. With a stick shift you hit the brakes and the slower you go the slower the engine is turning so it loses hp as you slow down even if it is fighting you. With an AT the car will downshift and regain revs so it is at full strength.

    You bring up a good point here. Many of us grew up learning to drive on a manual tranny. Whenever a panic situation occured the first thing you did was CLUTCH and BRAKE.

    Disconnet the wheels from the powertrain.

    Now that basic safety movement has been lost for tens of millions of drivers. It has to be relearned.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    Yes you can shift to Neutral at any speed. There is a rev-limiter in all modern vehicles, at least all Toyota ATs and CVTs. For my own information I've done it at 35 mph and 50 mph and 70 mph in my 05 Prius and my wife's 04 Highlander.

    No problem, Just Do It.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    In winter this subject always comes up. In typical N American winters you should expect to lose 10-20% off your 'normal' fuel economy; winter gas has fewer BTUs, the weather is worse normally, the roads are often slicker meaning less traction and the engine has to work more to keep you warm.

    I'd expect to get 28-30 mpg in winter and 31-34 mpg in summer.

    Try not to stop...EVER!! Stopping is one of the worst things you can do when it comes to fuel usage. It takes a lot more fuel to raise the sleeping beast from rest than it does to cruise slowly up to a light or traffic slowdown then accelerate smoothly up again.

    My own experience in a 2.5L 2010 XLE for 1000 mi in Oct, in mild weather, with good traction and almost zero stops on my 75 mi 1-way commute was that I was averaging 38-41 mpg at 61 mph.

    But if I hit a slowdown and had to brake then speed up again the FE rating immediately hit the average and drove it down to the low 30 mpg range. Then back on the steady highway cruise it built back up again until the average for the whole 1000 miles was 36 mpg.

    No City driving at all.
    Very few stops - if any
    Very boring commute-type drive
    Very moderate speed
    Very good weather
    Long trip each way.

    These conditions are just about perfect for any vehicle. In my 05 Prius on this trip I usually average 50 mpg day after day after day after day after day over 140,000 miles.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    "..Many of us grew up..."

    I think you might mean...

    Many of us in the 50+ age group.

    By the early sixtires it was hard to find a new car, "passenger" car, with a manual transmission. Then as FWD began to take hold in the seventies the deal was sealed.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    "...historically brakes have been..."

    Not in all situations. Once the car is moving at hwy speeds the advantage has historically gone over to the engine.....inertia/momentum tips the scales.

    Or the historical aspect might relate to FWD vs RWD. With "historical" RWD the front brakes are much more likely to have "control" than with a FWD wherein the engine is in direct competition with the primary, HEAVY duty, front wheel braking resource.
  • oparroparr Posts: 61
    I tried it at around 60 MPH coming home from work. Beats me why shifting to neutral isn't a suggestion in their "stuck pedal" advice. I even practiced the scenario a few times so it may become a reflex if the situation ever arises. The "stepped" guide even prevents you from heading into reverse.
  • kdhspyder> 38-41 mpg at 61 mph? I only had the one trip that I got around 34mpg or so for 1 tank (might of been a fluke) but I would of gotten pushed off the interstate if I drove around 61. ...joke joke.. I'm in Florida and Winter just arrived a few weeks ago, so most of my driving was in mild conditions. Today was 69 degrees. We did have a couple of weeks of cold weather the last 2 weeks
    (down in the 20's at night-cold for us...haahaaaa) but most of our weather was 70's during the day and 50's at night.
  • but I would of gotten pushed off the interstate if I drove around 61.

    Oh he was getting pushed, that was part of his hyper-miler strategy ;)
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    It wasn't interstate. It's a rural Hwy in NC, the main drag to the Outer Banks, where the speed limit is 45-55 and 63 is safe; 65 is asking for a visit from one of Smokey's friends; 67 is demanding a ticket.

    Also on this road I've hit or been hit by 2 bambi's, Bre'r Fox, the Easter Bunny and we have to watch out for real Smokey the Bears ( not a joke ). So far two accidents totalling $10000 from natures finest have been paid by my insurance company.

    That's why I was driving a Camry XLE!! The 2nd bambi accident on the Prius caused me to be out of a car for two weeks.

    Oh since there are so many bambi's hereabouts guys go hunting simply by pulling off to the side of the road and going into the woods. Sometimes there are rifle shots to dodge too. What's a kid from NYC doing in a place like this? Retired.
  • lilengineerboy kdhspyder Funny posts. Big laughs to both of you:)

    But I still want better gas mileage :mad:
  • I bought a new 2010 Toyota Camry LE 4-cyl one and half month ago, and have driven it for only 1200 miles. Yesterday I suddenly felt vibration/knocking from the engine while I was driving at about 30 mph, in the mean time both the Check Engine and Slip Indicator lights were on. The vibration became worse during acceleration. I parked the car and opened the front hood, I saw the engine vibrating badly. I have sent the car to a Toyota dealer, and am waiting for a diagnosis. The service man said there have been quite a few people got the same problem with the new Camry. Really disappointed with Toyota's quality control. I am sure I am using the right gas. Do you have any idea what happened in my car? Shall I contact Toyota directly? Thanks a lot for any suggestions.
  • kiawahkiawah Posts: 3,666
    It's at the right place, the dealership can check the computer to see what error codes were set, and fix whatever the problem was. Sit tight for a bit.
  • A friend suggested that I can ask to change a new Camry since my car is brand new. Is it possible? Will Toyota pay for loss of the dealer? Thanks.
  • gooddeal2gooddeal2 Posts: 749
    Nope, it's as easy as that...you have to follow the lemon law in your state like you have to let them fix 3 times first...etc.
  • They giving you a loaner car?
  • It turns out that the electric wire to a fuel injector was loosely connected in the manufactory. The technician in the Toyota dealer simply snapped the connection all the way in, and the car runs smoothly now. The dealer (not the one selling my car) did a good job finding and fixing the problem. Toyota needs to improve their quality control, though; a simple mistake can cause a big problem.
  • Karen_CMKaren_CM Posts: 5,019
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  • jason50jason50 Posts: 55
    I had thought about getting one last year, but the dealers wouldn't match the Accord's pricing, so i didn't buy one. What a blessing in disguise!! :-)
  • gtgtcobragtgtcobra Posts: 259
    The Accord is not any better than the Camry either. Accords also have quality issues too. :lemon:
  • jason50jason50 Posts: 55
    Accord still better in quality though. The Camry has been relying on past reputation, but over the past few years, the quality has waned.
  • gtgtcobragtgtcobra Posts: 259
    jason50,
    I disagree with you on that. The Accord has its share of quality problems too like bad transmissions, brake problems and fit and finish problems. Like I said, the Accord :lemon: has its share of quality problems just like the Camry does.
  • gooddeal2gooddeal2 Posts: 749
    I disagree with you on that. The Accord has its share of quality problems too like bad transmissions, brake problems and fit and finish problems.

    Well, I can replace brakes or even transmissions but I cannot replace my life with the run-away Toyota. :cry:
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    The Accord has its share of quality problems too like bad transmissions, brake problems and fit and finish problems. Like I said, the Accord has its share of quality problems just like the Camry does.

    I haven't heard of transmission issues in about six model years. What have I missed? :) Those transmissions that did have issues had major warranty extensions put on them, and many replaced beyond warranty periods from Honda.
  • marvin6marvin6 Posts: 72
    As one who had three transmissions put in my 2000 4 cyl accord (the original was better than the replacements) my question would be if the VCM is going to be Honda's "future problem" - i.e. will the current VCM people be having the problems the late 90-early 00's had with transmissions. I understand some are already experiencing oil consumption once they get some miles on them.
  • marvin6marvin6 Posts: 72
    Those transmissions that did have issues had major warranty extensions put on them, and many replaced beyond warranty periods from Honda.

    Honda did not do this on their own, but did it as a result of a class action lawsuit. Toyota had it's class action lawsuits on engine oil sludge and now it seems to be the media that is forcing Toyota to fix a problem.
  • Karen_CMKaren_CM Posts: 5,019
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