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Honda Accord Seats 2008+

musicejrmusicejr Posts: 11
I've got a V6 Coupe EX-L and the drivers seat is very uncomfortable for me. My back hurts immensely after 30mins of driving.

Does anyone else have this problem?
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  • vietviet Posts: 847
    Same here. But I got used to it quickly after a few hundred miles. Those should be best seats. Honda are built to last
  • musicejrmusicejr Posts: 11
    I've been 3,000 miles in my car already and it's not gotten any better.

    I'm going too more than likely have an upholster look at it and see if we can't make it fit for me.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    I've seen a complaint or two about the lumbar bulge being too big on another forum. Those with issues visited an upholstery shop and had the cushion trimmed, or a new, slimmer one implemented if I recall correctly.

    Sorry you didn't realize this during a test drive! :cry: Good luck and keep us posted.

    TheGrad
  • bug4bug4 Posts: 370
    There have been lots of mentions about this over the last 6 months on these forums. To my knowledge, no one has found a "solution" because it is a basic design issue. However, when test driving Accords, I felt like there was some variation in the degree to which the lump in the lumbar area stuck out. Although my EX-L seats certainly have that lump, I find the seats to be very comfortable.

    Also, there have been a number of complaints about how far forward the head restraint sits. Some people feel that it forces the driver's into a unnatural forward position.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    I'm assuming you've got the lumbar support adjusted all the way back to the minimum position... they do have the adjustable lumbar that the previous gen had, right?
  • bug4bug4 Posts: 370
    Yup -- it is in its minimum position. On a very long trip I took about 1 month ago, I finally used the lumbar adjustment for the first time (I was driving for almost 7 hours, one way). Other than that, I have always left it in its minimum position since there is still adequate lumbar support without engaging the lumbar adjuster.

    Mine just adjusts either in or out -- there is no up and down adjustment. Is this the way it is on your car Grad -- or do you have in and out and up and down?
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Mine just adjusts either in or out -- there is no up and down adjustment. Is this the way it is on your car Grad -- or do you have in and out and up and down?

    Yep, probably identical to yours. Just a lever than can be rotated forward up to 90 degrees.
  • parvizparviz Posts: 484
    I don't have an answer for the non EXL models. However, I own an EXL as you do, which has power seats with extensive control. After having experienced the discomfort as you mention, I played around with the adjustments and finally I got a spot that works great for me, that also helped the head restraint fall in place for me as well. You may have already tried this but if not, try the buttons, hopefully you will find a spot that fits your posture.
  • minder11minder11 Posts: 10
    I am about 500 miles into 2008 EXL and my back is in pain after just a 20 min ride each way to work. The lumbar is all the way retracted and I still feel like the design of the seat curvature is intruding on my lower back. I am very concerned since there is no solution other than to hope my back gets used to it after a while.

    I am very surprised that honda would design a seat that appeals to a smaller portion of the public that needs lower lumbar support. I am also disappointed since the whole purpose of having electronic lumbar control is so that you can have it or not have it---Honda forces it on you even when it is fully disengaged. In pain and concerned....
  • carbuyer11carbuyer11 Posts: 114
    I don't get it. Since 2003, Honda has built the BEST passenger seats in the class for the Accord. My 2008 EXLV6 is no exception. Firm and supportive. They are meant to be that way. Is it possible that some new Accord owners used to own a "big 3" vehicle notorious for Laz-e-boy type seating?
  • minder11minder11 Posts: 10
    I have no doubt that the lumbar bulge or curverature of the seat in the 2008 EXL is pronounced. I thought at first it was my issue and not the car's until I read a number of reviews that described the lumbar bulge (even with lumbar fully retracted) as "stout" and "protruding". Some people like this, I however find it unnatural. Everything else about the car is outstanding. I had people sit in the car and they say the same thing....

    Is it possible that the leather or seat needs to be broken in to give a little more??
  • bug4bug4 Posts: 370
    Unfortunately, I don't think the lumbar "bump" will get better over time. I have put lots of butt time in my 08 EX-L and 10,000+ miles, and the bump is still there. I am lucky because it seems to fit my 6' frame well. I find the seat very comfortable. BUT, the bump is so pronounced even with the lumbar adjustment set to its softest position, that, if it didn't fit me, it would be miserable!
  • rendarrendar Posts: 4
    I test drove an LX-P model a couple weeks ago, and decided on the EX because it had adjustable lumbar support. When I test drove the EX with the lumbar support all the way back, it felt 100 x better than the LX-P. However, I didn't notice the other bump, which feels like it is only cushioning, in my test drive. I just got the EX over the weekend and after driving around for a little while find it very uncomfortable, and my wife says the passenger seat is the same. Has anybody had theirs looked at by a custom upholstery shop, or the dealer? If so, how much should I expect to spend on getting this fixed? This seems like a major design flaw to me... :(
  • minder11minder11 Posts: 10
    Yeah , I have the same problem. I took mine back to the dealer jut to get their thoughts on it and they looked at me like I was crazy. I have sat 10 + people in the car and they all say the same thing---too much lumbar.. I think what is making it so pronounced is the lumbar plate that is connected to the headrest (sit in the seat and pull the headrest to your head like you are doing a sit up). When you pull the head rest, the plate pulls back and the "bump" is gone. The plate is a new safety feature that on rear impact your body will sink into the plate and pull the headrest forward thus minimizing whiplash. Of course at the expense of an achy back.

    The point that I still do not understand is why make electronic lumbar control if you are going to make lumbar already pronounced (by curverature of seatback and lumbar plate) even with the lumbar control all the way "off"?
  • rendarrendar Posts: 4
    Wow, I just tested it, and indeed the bump disappears when you pull the headrest forward. I guess that disproves my notion that it was only padding, and is going to make it a harder fix.
  • RicksterRickster Posts: 40
    Hi,

    I have a 2006 EXL and am experience chronic pain in my right butt, hamstring and outer knee. The pain is the worst when I drive and my PT thinks I should consider a car with a more upright seating position.

    Has anyone else encountered this problem?
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    I have a 2006 EX (cloth) Accord and don't have a problem, since the seat is pretty adjustable (your 8-way power seat should be able to jack up higher).

    Are you sure you didn't hurt yourself with the Personal Trainer? :)
  • RicksterRickster Posts: 40
    LOL!
    If only it were so simple.

    Adjusting the seat upwards does help, but not enough. I recently drove an SUV and the more upright position seemed to feel a little better.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Still might be worth visiting the doctor about before changing vehicles. A doctor visit doesn't cost nearly as much (unless you have an HMO! :)).

    Keep us updated.
  • RicksterRickster Posts: 40
    I completely agree - my next trip is to get a massage.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    I don't have any pain, but that sounds good nonetheless. :)
  • mrbill1957mrbill1957 Posts: 818
    I have my own leg/back problems, and had to readjust the seat in my 04 EXL a few times before I found something that works for me. I just completed an 1400 round trip, with driving 650 miles just yesterday. My back and legs were fine!

    I'm assuming you tried tilting the front of the seat up/down to change how it effects your seat position? That's what did it for me.

    btw, I averaged 34.9mpg for the trip. I didn't think that was bad for my I4 with the A/C on the whole time.

    Mrbill
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    I had surgery to remove two ruptured discs in my lower back. It's hard to be comfortable, for an extended period, in any one position. The tilt feature makes it much easier to find a different position (change pressure points), and still be comfortable. I hate power seats, because I have to stand outside the car, and move the seat back (sloowwwly) after my rather short wife has driven the car. Moving a manual seat back is much quicker. The tilt feature on the 8-way adjustable seat makes it worth the trouble. Which makes me wonder???? Does the manual seat have a tilt feature?
  • musicejrmusicejr Posts: 11
    My 2005 Accord EXL Sedan seats were MUCH better than the seats are in my 2008 Coupe.

    I've only had 1 person out of a dozen or so friends and co-workers that didn't say the seats felt "off" too them as well. Some have even said the passenger seats are uncomfortable as well.
  • rendarrendar Posts: 4
    and sure enough, they told me I was crazy. Say there is nothing they can do. Is there anybody out there who has been able to remedy this? Or does somebody have a link to another forum where they have discussed this?
  • minder11minder11 Posts: 10
    I too just got back from Dealer #2 tonight. I was hopeful at this second dealer when I sat in a 08 accord they had in the showroom that didnt have as much bump in the lower back. I thought for sure that the lumbar plate and headrest would need to be adjusted somehow. I just got it back and they said everything was fine and that car in the showrom was just sold. I was going to buy the seats out of the other car at a significant cost--too bad it was sold.

    Issue is clearly the lumbar plate

    Help!!!!!!!!!
  • ljgbjgljgbjg Posts: 374
    Seems the doctor is not the problem. Funny thing - of all the things I have had to endure with the 2008 EXL V6 with VCM, the seats have not been an issue with me.
    I like them firm. Travveled to Boston and back a few weeks ago perfectly comfortably.

    But is seems Edmunds agrees with most here -
    http://blogs.edmunds.com/roadtests/Vehicles/2008HondaAccordEX-LV6/
  • minder11minder11 Posts: 10
    Firmness is not the problem---the seats force feed lumbar on you...If you dont like stout lumbar forget it...And adding additional lumbar "suuport " with the controls??? You Have to be Gumby to like that.
  • benicebenice Posts: 1
    Since I have a short torso, the head retraints on my2008 Accord obstruct my view. Do you know of any replacement restraints that could have a "cut-out" "see-through opening or restraints that are lower in height?
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    I'd simply remove the restraints when you don't have rear passengers, and put them in the rear-floorboard. They shouldn't be any more difficult to remove than the front ones if they are like my 2006 Accord sedan.

    Have a great weekend!

    TheGrad
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