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Honda Accord Coupe Wheel Vibration

palmcoastg35palmcoastg35 Posts: 15
With only 1K miles on my new 2008 Honda Coupe 6-cyl with Nav, I am experiencing "Wheel Vibration." It is mostly coming from the rear when I reach speeds of 60 - 65 mph. I also get it slightly in the front.

Has anyone experienced this also? I have heard that with the weights on the inside of the wheel sometimes the wheel goes out of balance, but i only have 1,000 miles so far.

I have an appt. next week, but wanted to get some insight before going to the dealer.

Thanks,

Joe
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  • packer3packer3 Posts: 277
    First have the tires re balanced it will show if a weight fell off, then rotate the tires front to back oand so on. If there is a problem it will show up in the front if so even with the tires balanced the belt in the tire proably shifted get a new tire.
  • I will let you know after I have it serviced on Friday, May 9th. Thanks for the advice!
  • The wheel vibration was the result of all ( 4 ) wheels being out of balance. They also found that there was an issue that Honda is investigating about the front suspension having a variance of 10%. I am not sure what that really means, but they said Honda has received many calls about this and they are investigating.

    Would you know what they mean by " variance of 10% "
  • golfrskigolfrski Posts: 262
    I would be interested in what this is all about.. while I have the sedan V6 , i have the same issues related to vibration at these speeds and have had tires repeatedly balanced and replaced and still feel the same rear to front vibration you describe... somethings up here.....
  • Here is what was written on the work sheet they gave me:

    CAUSE: Discovered all four wheels out of balance. Peformed 4 wheel balance and road force variance test, All tires have over 10 lb of road force, Honday is investigating this concern.

    The service manager ( 17 yrs with Honda ) is a close friend of the family and she said that it could be related to the Suspension, Wheels and/or the Tires. My son is a Master Tech and has speculated that the suspension might be the concern. Honda is currently looking into this with their engineers.

    Question Golfrski: Since you replaced the tires already, my only thought would be the wheels should be replaced next, did the dealer offer to do that?

    I wonder how many other buyers have this problem? Maybe we could put some kind of feeler out to the car community ...... ;)
  • packer3packer3 Posts: 277
    Palm,

    I'm glad it worked out for you, that's interesting what you have uncovered, I have the LXP 4cyl 16" rims, maybe it has to do with the coupe and the 17" rims or sup. me us updated and thanks again.
  • helirollerheliroller Posts: 1
    Don't feel too bad, since January, I've had a rear strut replaced, 2 front drive axles replaced, shaved the front rotors and 5 sets of tires (including 2 wheel sets replaced) trying to fix a shake in the front that is detectable through the steering column at speed of 60-80mph. Nope, it is not a balance issue. It is in fact under investigation, and no, they don't know what the heck it is. I'm finished with the car! I've been driving and working on cars for the past 35 years and Honda engineers have screwed up on this one. And this is not the only car that does this. I drove another new one that does the same dang thing. I don't really think it matters whether it is the coupe or sedan as the drive train is the same. I personally think it is in the tranny or front struts. I'd be willing to bet that most 08 Accord owners could put their cruise to 65mph on a smooth road surface, and just drive it on a short road trip, they would feel the same thing. Most people don't notice it, but it is a major problem for Honda..Mine just happen to get real bad before the last tire replacement which they used a different brand touting that the Michelin's were the problem.. That ain't the problemo! Since I hit the open road a lot, this is a major sore spot for me!
  • nednj36nednj36 Posts: 9
    I have the vibration also. Any news from Honda regarding the problem?
  • golfrskigolfrski Posts: 262
    All,

    move over the the VCM forum.. you will never get this fixed sorry to say.. its not tires, wheels or axles.. this is a directly related to the VCM operation.I had 3 sets of tires replaced and motor mounts inspected, test etc and the axle inspected as well as the front and rear ends... in the end, Honda said this is a by product of the VCM operation and there is NO FIX "they say" I was also told this by Honda techs and engineers... sorry i wish it was the tires really I do.
  • This just sucks! My blood pressure has just shot up after reading the last post. If Honda cannot satisfy their customers, then we should begin a class action suit against Honda. :lemon:

    I hate driving the car knowing that this problem will never go away.

    :mad:
  • golfrskigolfrski Posts: 262
    Listen, exhaust your efforst with your service department and call Honda of America and open a "case" they will at least document your concerns and try to gain their help.
  • Thanks Golfrski...I appreciate your advice.
  • nednj36nednj36 Posts: 9
    if you do in fact have the dreaded wheel shimmy/ steering wheel vibration between 50-70 mph, do you notice it varying day to day? Such as hot/cold related, some days worse than others, some days barely noticable or different speed ranges?
  • nednj36nednj36 Posts: 9
    could be an issue similar to the 2004-2006 Nissan Maxima. "Excessive Slide Force" in the steering rack/undersized steering rack for the 18" wheels on the SE models. My friend had the problem and said that they installed a larger, sturdier rack for the '07/'08 models. You think Nissan would step up and replace the racks for the '04-'06 customers, but with competition & profit margins shrinking, auto makers are only oiling the squeaky wheels these days. Make sure your squeak is high pitched!
  • It is very noticeable at speeds from 60 - 70 mph. I reside in Florida and temperature is usually very hot. It does not happen under the above mentioned speeds. The dealers rotated the tires, did a wheel balance and said Honda was aware of this problem. With only 2500 miles on the Accord Coupe, things like this should not occur. I am very disgusted about the whole situation.
  • nednj36nednj36 Posts: 9
    I agree. totally unacceptable. I cannot imagine staying in this lease for 35 more months with this condition.
  • golfrskigolfrski Posts: 262
    I am too Palm. its very disturbing and in my case nothing honda will me so far.. keep taking it back under warranty is my only advice until they either fix it our find a suitable solution. big drag I know.. I am sick about ours, just sick about it. you will find solice at some level int he VCM forum I think... they are related Honda told me.
  • nednj36nednj36 Posts: 9
    it must have something to do with VCM-light alloys-poor OEM tires-poor steering rack-bad brake rotors. My shimmy is barely evident some days and horrible other days. Always varying speed ranges depending on ambient temps.

    I would guess that certain Accord VCM's kick in prematurely or tardilly and aggrevate the harmonics of the wheel/tire revolution. steering rack, drive axles, rotors, or a combination of these. Interesting finding the other day;

    I drove about 100 feet with the emergency brake fully engaged, then road another 100 feet with one foot on the brake and the other on the accelerator (figured I would true the rotors a little) then de-activated the VSA. It eliminated shimmy for a few miles, and when the shimmy returned it was below 45 mph which is rare in my case

    It could also be that the ECM/VCM needs a software update or a re-flash to it

    good luck
  • nednj36nednj36 Posts: 9
    I took delivery in April and have had the wheel shimmy/suspension issue since day one. Four visits to the svc. dept since, and this is what was done:

    1. Spin balance-- not corrected
    2. Road force balance on Hunter GS9700 machine-- not corrected
    3. Wheel & tire replacement, Hunter balance and four wheel alignment-- not corrected
    4. Wheel & tire replacement again, road force balance, tire pressure adjustment to 35psi-- not corrected

    The car seems ok (shimmy somewhat noticable, but not horrible) for 1-2 days, then it returns ferociously. I'm at my wits end. A case was opened with Honda Motor Corp. between visits 3 & 4. They are slow in responding and basically treating the issue casually. The dealer had implied that they would get me out of the V-6 and into the 4 cyl. with the same payment. Later on after conferring with other staff, they offered me the 4 cyl. at a lease payment of $160/mo. more than I pay now (flat out insult!)

    I'm on the cusp of Lemon Law. Has anyone pursued this? Has anyone gotten their shimmy corrected? If so, what was the fix?
  • nednj36nednj36 Posts: 9
    any correction or resolve with Honda Corp. or dealer? Is the car better, worse, or the same? What operations have they attempted so far?
  • golfrskigolfrski Posts: 262
    Call the BBB AUTO LINE and file a complaint. be prepared to demonstrate more than 3 attempts to repair the vibration ... I am going to save you months of heart ache here......... save the stress and call them for advice and assistance. The vibration will NOT go away no matter how many tires you swap (in my personal opinion) be there done that.
  • If you don't mind what state do you live in? I live in Florida and this started the day I picked up the the car and Honda has tried to fix the problem. I have to agree with you about it happening on some days and better on others.

    I still get the shimmy and vibration in the rear but the dealer has been working to try and fix the problems. What can we do?

    I would be curious to find out just how many people are experiencing this throughout the country?

    Thanks - PalmCoastG35 :lemon:
  • rogerb34rogerb34 Posts: 30
    They mean the difference front alignment to rear alignment was 10 percent.
    I get a 4 wheel alignment initially and then front thereafter.
    Every 12k to preserve handling, ride, tire wear.
    Will do another 4 wheel at higher mileage, about 75k.
  • I found something very interesting last evening....

    I had 4 occupants in the car and the wheel vibration was not even noticeable. I traveled on the same road as I usually do, testing at speeds of 60; 65; 70; 75 and 80 mph. Also, the road noise was not as prevalent as it is when I am alone in the vehicle.

    It makes me believe that the suspension/tires on the roadway might really be the main cause. When I drive by myself, the vibration is much more noticeable. I am planning to call the dealer on Monday to let him know of these. .... :confuse:
  • Is this problem only on automatic or does it plague the manual transmission coupes?
  • I own a automatic - :lemon: I would expect more from a HONDA !
  • THIS IS A MAJOR ISSUE FOLKS SEDAN & COUPES (IT SEEMS)
  • So what is Honda doing about it? These vehicles are certainly not fun to drive anymore and not sure what I am going to do about it! :sick:
  • Oh sadness! I just took my car into the dealer, had the tires balanced and was told everything was, "within the norm." After test driving and returning to the dealer, I was told the problem was, "the highway design and construction in CA." Not being satisfied with that answer(!), I'm meeting the district mgr. of the dealership this morning to try to get some help. Just now, I found this forum. How depressing. I loved my car before but suddenly realize the honeymoon is over. I'll call BBB, as suggested and write to Honda of America. :cry: Has anyone had success with new tires? Thanks.
  • Here is what I did....I bugged them until they removed the tires from the rim. I had them balance the rims first, then put the tires back on and had them balance the tire again. I had them spin the tires up to 90 mph on the balancer. I had them rotate the tires. I had a 4 wheel alignment and finally put NITROGEN in all 4 tires. It resolved most of the problem with only a slight variance of a vibration. I too love this car and will continue to drive it. Honda is tight lipped about solving the problem entirely. I think they realize by making a change of the vehicle they messed up. We will have to wait and see what the end result is! Stay sane and keep on the Dealerships [non-permissible content removed].....! Do not give up....everytime you bring it in, have them do a road variance to make sure they can get the numbers down.... :cry:
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