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Acura RL

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  • varmintvarmint Posts: 6,326
    Theo2709 - The one thing we already know for sure, is that the '05 RL will not be FWD. This was announced by the head honcho of Honda earlier this Fall. Most people are betting that this means AWD, not RWD.

    I'm not so sure that I see their product plan as being stubborn. RWD is old school. V8 performance is old. Assuming that the next RL uses a hybrid AWD system, that would be something very new. I know that RWD and V8 are coming back into fashion, but I think that using a hybrid design is actually skipping the return to bellbottoms and going straight to the next trend.
  • I am assuming that production will be in Japan. Therefore, does this mean production of the 05RL will not compete with other models?

    I truely believe that a vehicle assembled in Japan has better fit and finish than one done here. I once had two same year Honda (2dr - Here & 4dr - Japan) that seems to be quite different.

    I am assuming that the vehicle price will be stable compare to the current RL because the price now seems a little high for what you get.
  • varmintvarmint Posts: 6,326
    The RL is currently built in Ohio.

    Despite popular speculation, when Accord production was transferred from Japan to the US, the US models had fewer warranty claims than the ones build in Japan.

    I expect that the price will go a few grand higher. Much like the new TL vs the old TL. The new model will offer a great deal more (content, features, performance, etc.) at a moderate increase in price.

    It's all speculation, though.
  • I am in Hawaii and wonder if we will see it here sooner than on the mainland. I as well, would prefer the awd and do not mind the v6, especially if it waves gas. There is horrible traffic here on oahu. Back seat theater seating is what interests me. Old folks have a hard time getting in and out of the low riders as they age. 2005 seems like such a long time.
  • Help!
    Have vibration in Steering wheel, even at a stand-still, and while driving at low speeds up to 40 mph. Have 26,000 miles on my RL 2002. The problem occurred about 2,000 miles ago.

    When I took it in for oil change, the person who wrote up the work order said the mechanic did not find anything wrong. I got the feeling that the dealer did not look into the steering wheel problem. I did not talk directly with the mechanic.

    Has anyone had this problem of steering wheel vibrations? And does anyone have any suggestions in dealing with the car dealer?
  • I think I got a good deal. 67,000 miles and second owner after a lease. Kept up with repairs, clean CARFAX and an green light from a mechanic who looked it over. I paid $12,000.

    After I wrecked my RSX-S, I decided that god was trying to tell me something about my driving habits (car was totalled -- I was unharmed) so I decided to chill out and grow up a little. I'm very happy with the car. It changes my whole outlook on driving. Rather than zipping in and out of lanes like a jerk, I just sit back in my comfortable seat, turn up the radio and let the road unfold.

    A used RL is a stellar deal for someone looking for luxury on a budget.

    I might have to change my handle tho...
  • jwilson1jwilson1 Posts: 956
    gaskins, did you ask them to check the alignment? The steering wheel movement is a symptom, not a cause, and some alignment quirk would be the first thing to think about. If it's been this way for a long time, you may notice that one edge or the other of a front tire is wearing unevenly with 'pockets.' If it is an alignment issue, you eventually will ruin one or more tires.

    Suggestion: back to the dealer, have the service advisor drive the car with you in it to replicate the vibration, then they'll know what to do. JW
  • The RL has always been built in Japan as will be the new one. The original 95-97 TL was built in Japan, the 98-current is Ohio.
  • varmintvarmint Posts: 6,326
    Edmunds lists East Liberty first, which I took to mean it was the place of final assembly, with Japan being the source of the engine and transmission.

    Type: Large Sedan
    Where Built: Marysville, OH/East Liberty, OH/Japan

    However, this site lists only Japan.
  • l943973l943973 Posts: 197
    I also believe the Hondas built in Japan are better than the ones built in the US. I just hope the 05 RL comes with auto dimming side mirrors. With all the SUVs out there, their headlights can get pretty bright at night.

    Here are the models built in the US:

    http://www.hondanews.com/Forms/corp/*ws4d-db-query-Show.ws4d?*ws4- - - - - d-db-query-Show***000485***-wieck_media***-***corp(directory)***.- - - ws4d?corp/results(r)_text.html

    Here are the models built in Japan:

    http://www.hondanews.com/Forms/corp/*ws4d-db-query-Show.ws4d?*ws4- d-db-query-Show***000505***-wieck_media***-***corp(directory)***.- - - ws4d?corp/results(r)_text.html

    (RL is listed at the Legend).
  • Safe to say that what features that is in the TL will be in the RL or they will also include active stearing?
  • Am I crazy to consider buying this car? I am looking for an easy riding, reliable car that I will be putting many miles on it each year ( 60/40 town:highway). I would like to wait for the 2005 model, but I'm not sure if I will be able to afford it if there is a price increase and/or I will like the new design. I have considered buying a used RL, but I am leaning towards a new car. I would also consider the Audi A6 3.0 sedan, but reliability seems to be a problem. Someone play devils advocate and tell me why I should not buy the 2004 RL.
  • carnaughtcarnaught Posts: 1,610
    Have you looked at the new TL or is it too small for you?
  • gteach26gteach26 Posts: 576
    wait 'till the new one comes out and see if you like it and can afford it. If not, I'm sure your Acura dealer can get you a "slightly" used 04 at a nice discount.. you'll have the factory warranty, new car smell etc.. and you'll pay less due to its "pre-owned" status.

    Think about it though, if you buy the '04 and then LOVE the '05 you're going to regret your purchase for a long, long time.

    Good luck!
  • jwilson1jwilson1 Posts: 956
    Acura has always (since 96) had great deals on the leftovers from the model year before -- don't know if they have a lot of inventory this year, but that's the way I'd tend to go if I felt the way you do. JW
  • kennyg5kennyg5 Posts: 360
    I've always liked the RL because it is reliable, looks elegant and provides a comfortable and luxurious ride. The downside is its dated technology and it is somewhat overpriced when compared with similarly equipped cars. I think the ES 330 is a close competitor, since both cars are aimed at the same audience, but the Lexus seems able to retain its value better and can be purchased at a lower price. The Avalon is also a competitor and can be bought at even lower prices. All 3 cars are equally reliable, but the RL gives you a bit more prestige and better dealer service which, in part, translates to a higher price tag.
  • The most cost effective solution would be to look around for a '00 coming off lease. There are slightly used RL's with around 30k miles on them that can be had for the low 20's. A great value. Drive it for a year or two and then look at the '05. Sell the '00 and take much less hit on depreciation, taxes, ins, etc. It is pretty much the same car as the '04 less a couple gadgets.
  • gteach26gteach26 Posts: 576
    From what I saw on their website, the Acura CPO warranty is only 12K miles/12 months... why would they not offer the 3 year /100K total vehicle miles warranty offered by other high-end makes like Lexus? Personally, I'd prefer the better warranty package even if it means a slightly higher vehicle cost.
  • jwilson1jwilson1 Posts: 956
    "Personally, I'd prefer the better warranty package even if it means a slightly higher vehicle cost."

    Available at extra cost.

    And if you don't like that, ask AAA as their's is quite good. JW
  • I saw a comment that said March. This March!?
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    I hope the RL does leap ahead with the AWD/Hybrid. That would make it unique and bring buyers AWAY from Lexus and Infiniti, who are stuck with now "old school" V8/RWD engines.
  • But, there's word that Honda will increase the 3.5L engines to 3.8L in the MDX and upcoming RL. Hope that boosts their HP ratings!!
  • gteach26gteach26 Posts: 576
    2004 RL's are going way under invoice for just under 39K (carsdirect). This special pricing is in effect 'till January so either these guys are in major "holiday pricing mode" OR they are clearing the 04's to make room for '05 in the very near future... I hope it is the latter.
  • carguy58carguy58 Posts: 2,303
    built than US ones: I have an Acura thats built in Ohio. No problems so far.
  • varmintvarmint Posts: 6,326
    Randomthought - The RL is supposed to be released at one of the upcoming auto shows (spring of '04). I've forgotten which one, but you can find it by searching back in this thread.

    Carguy - Mine, too. About the only serious problem with the Ohio built TL is the transmission. That tranny comes from Japan.

    Of course, my made-in-Japan CR-V went to 84K miles before it had its first unscheduled repair. And I wouldn't call a bad distributor a big deal. So, my Honda fleet is 1:1. That's why data like the warranty claims are more compelling to me, than personal anecdotes.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    warranty claims are always a good indicator- as are CR reliability predictions.
  • the V6 gas engine powers the front wheels, and the electric powers the rear wheels in the 2005 RL.
    That's what I was told 2 months ago by Acura people.
  • Am I crazy to consider buying this car? I am looking for an easy riding, reliable car that I will be putting many miles on it each year ( 60/40 town:highway). I would like to wait for the 2005 model, but I'm not sure if I will be able to afford it if there is a price increase and/or I will like the new design. I have considered buying a used RL, but I am leaning towards a new car. I would also consider the Audi A6 3.0 sedan, but reliability seems to be a problem. Someone play devils advocate and tell me why I should not buy the 2004 RL.

    Just go ahead and get the 04, since you'll get a fabulous discount on the price. There will be no discount on the 2005 model when it comes out in April, and why buy it when you can wait only another 5-6 months and get the 2006 model, which will have all the first model year kinks worked out. So if you can't wait for the 2006 model, just get the 2004 now. You can dump it/trade it in down the road if you like the newer RLs.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    who from Acura?
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    I know who to call.
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