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Acura RL

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  • fbearfbear Posts: 117
    " This is a luxury car. Every surface, every control--large or small--feels as though it's been upgraded."

    They also compare the SH-AWD system to the "stellar handling" of the AWD system on a Bently Continental GT which "blew them away".

    On the track, tested along side Audi A6, MB 320E and BMW 530i, the RL "more than held its own and felt absolutely teriffic at speed."
  • shotgunshotgun Posts: 184
    The Smart Money magazine reflected 04' model pricing according to a footnote in the article, and may have even refered to an 04' model since they are heavily discounted now and the article focused on "value" -

    I've not read the Automobile magazine article, but the way it's going now with all of the "preview" reports on the RL being so "glowing" ... I think we have an unqualified winner on our hands. Go Acura!!!
  • fbearfbear Posts: 117
    The text of the article referred to the 05 as it highlighted real time traffic system and all wheel drive which of course do not apply to the 04 RL.

    I kind of suspected that the price might be the 04 price although I cannot find the footnote saying so in my issue.
  • >>Well, count this Acura RL owner as one to be chomping on the bits! I can only speak for myself...

    Ditto! I've loved my 99RL, but can hardly wait to take delivery of my 05. I'm number one on the waiting list at my dealer. The SH-AWD, the voice activated NAV, the real-time traffic reports, etc., etc. All of it has my blood racing! And count me as one who loves the styling. I fell in love with it at the NYC show and every picture I've seen has added to it. Bring it on!
  • shotgunshotgun Posts: 184
    Fbear...my "bad" it wasn't actually a footnote! It was in the body of the article above the matrix titled "The Best New-Car Values" and I quote "Where possible, we included sticker prices for 2005 models, which we noted in italics, but in most cases, only 2004 prices were available at press time..."
  • If you have owned an RL or 2nd generation Legend, and also saw the new 2005 RL at a car show, can you compare how this new seat is constructed?

    There is a lot being written about the RL's increased car interior space and soft leather on the new seats. What I want to know is, are the new seats wide and comfortable or are they tight and pinching (heavily bolsetered)?
  • I saw the new RL but couldn't sit in it because it was loaded on a flat-bed truck going for a demo or something. From what I could see, I guess the seats are wider and less bolstered than the TL seats.
  • jjacurajjacura Posts: 808
    My wife especially loves the comfort level of the older TL seats, especially when we travel and she is looking for an equal or better comfort level seat in the new RL...(not looking for heavily bolstered seats either)
  • cericceric Posts: 1,093
    I have a basic question that will appear quite naive but is the RL made in Japan or Marysville?

    Actually, RL (Legend in Japan) had a big announcement in Japan as well. It will be produced entirely in Japan (sources of parts vary, of course). You can read a lot of the news in response.jp. If you read Japanese... otherwise, see some good pictures from crash test of the RL, the ACE structure, etc.
  • dc661dc661 Posts: 71
    Autoweek magazine shows estimated Base MSRP of $46,000 and manufacturer claim of 0-60 in 6.5 sec.



    Also has pictures of base model center stack without the central control knob. I thought that was standard equipment but it appears to be optional.
  • Hi everyone,

    I guess there was a discussion a few pages back about the comparo of the new RL with other sport luxury vehicles. I do not recall reading which models where involved so I'll cite a reliable source that was invited to test the RL.

    Audi 6 3.0 Tiptronic Quattro
    BMW 530i
    MB E320
    RL 2004
    RL 2005

    Of course, we know that the new models for some of the above mentioned cars would be tougher contenders in a race track test comparo, but nevertheless the 2005 RL simply dispatched them all.

    The lucky dog I was referring to had also the chance of driving the car out of the testing track as it was raining 'cats and dogs'.
    His real world testing was as positive as the race track one. He reports that the vehicle simply corrected flawlessly an aquaplaning episode and that tabling the gas at intersection and abruptly steering left with the very rain coming down would still results in a flawless turn. I should mention that the account points out that VSA never was activated (hinting that the engineering is such that the car was behaving well within its handling capabilities) and that while the Audi diplayed heavy front wheel traction behaviour it was possible to obtain rotation under throttle condition (this was done in the race track).

    So my impressions that this vehicle will be the best on the road stand strengthened. I should be as cautious as the editor in question was, we still need to wait full evaluations but my impression is that all initial reports were actually on the conservative side so LET's GLOAT ON.

    P.S. I guess I cannot reveal the godly site from which the details were cited but I guess a lot of you already have seen it or they will soon do so in the printed press.
  • shotgunshotgun Posts: 184
    They've obviously placed wrong pictures, don't have an "actual" MSRP and Acura has not released any "official" 0-60 times!
  • l943973l943973 Posts: 197
    That autoweek article has an interior of the 2004 TL not the RL.
  • jjacurajjacura Posts: 808
    Thanks for the answer Ceric....and I'll just look at the pictures.
  • l943973l943973 Posts: 197
    The interior RL pic on Autoweek has been corrected. I was surprised to hear the Honda official say that they don't do styling. I think when you paying that much money, some of it should be for the styling.
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Posts: 5,525
    It was a sarcasm.

    As for pricing, I suspect $46-48K.
  • >see some good pictures from crash test of the RL, the ACE structure, etc. (response.jp)<

    Any tips on how we can navigate to see those photos? I went to that Japanese language site, but it was all Greek to me.
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Posts: 5,525
    1, 2, GO!

    The new RL looks very muscular from this angle.
  • While the Autoweek review was generally favorable, the guy sure got his licks in against the former RL model, that is, after he bored us half to death with an entire opening parapgraph that had little to do with anything. It seemed like the author was rather sparing and stingy with his accolades -- maybe he had a few too many Southern Comforts while out there in that Washington, DC heat.

    I am very pleased to see that the press on the car has been so favorable. Its also nice to see some decent photographs of the car -- much better than those originally teased out by Acura. Had they used this current crop of photos, instead of the little slices, sneaks and peaks provided earlier, Acura would have faired better in the styling remarks it received. Of course, these new pix appear to be done by an entirely different photographer using altogether different shooting styles, lenses, aperature settings, and low angle and strategic compositional positioning (rule of thirds & spatial division) within the image frame. Some of these new photos will very likely be seen in the new 2005 RL brochure.

    I would be curious to know more about the "(we) don't do stying" comment" quoted in the article. If that in fact that was said by a Honda exec, did they mean that they (Honda) don't concern themselves much with styling, or that they farm that out to a 3rd party design studio?
  • jjacurajjacura Posts: 808
    Legendman, My Greek neighbor couldn't even help me negotiate that site!....LOL... JJ
    P.S. Ceric my friend Please help us out!
  • jjacurajjacura Posts: 808
    I joined this forum much later than some of you guys and sometimes when the site opens up I find myself reading mid-May postings and I just wanted to comment on your information about the OCTANE in GASOLINE. It was quite interesting and very educational especially for anyone who would want to use low octane gas in a 300 HP V-tech engine! Makes no sense to buy a luxury car and try to save pennies on the gas!
  • Now that we all have seen lots of great photos and read some thick and meaty articles on the new 2005 RL -- with all it's horsepower, SH-AWD, and other electronic wizardry, I would like to pose a question -- just for purposes of conversation and "what if?".

    Here's my question: Did Acura really need to wait until now (fall of 2004) to produce the new RL model that will arrive at showrooms next month?

    I think it fair to say that most would agree that the RL has been overdue for revamping and restyling for some time now. Need Acura have waited until now in order to produce the new RL model we see today; or, would a car that, even minus a few whiz-bang features, have sufficiently captured the imagination of the car buying public and the praise of the automobile magazine critics?

    My follow-up question: will the new RL finally change minds and mindsets? Will the 2005 RL finally get some respect; something that Rodney Dangerfield -- and prior RLs -- couldn't seem to get?
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Posts: 5,525
    I think it will, and to some extent, already has. Once the car gets out on the street, and in commercials, more people will notice it. But for now, and given that the original RL lasted nine years in the market, there may be enough repeat buyers who would be looking for replacement.

    I've read elsewhere that Honda had scratched an earlier design before they finalized on this one. As far as success is concerned, this could instill the same flavor that 1999 TL did to the less known first generation TL.
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Posts: 5,525
    I tried using Babelfish for translation. Here is are a few of the links to the (translated) articles...
    "That Is One Large Transformation To Super Sedan"
    Use Of Aluminum
    Cancellation of Self Imposed 280 HP Restriction?

    But, beware, that the translation comes out in a funny language but better than getting confused with Greek. ;-)
  • despite all the techno gadgetry, the output of torque is still somewhat low. I'm not trying to nitpick, but it would have been nice to see this car withh 300 pounds torque as well or at the least 280. 260 pounds of torque just doesn't quite get the car up to snuff for me.
  • cericceric Posts: 1,093
    I think robertsmx got the 3 of the seven articles there. They are here
    All 7 articles
    Scroll down the page to see them.

    The rarest pictures of all are here
    Crash-test Picture, ACE, etc

    Enjoy.
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Posts: 5,525
    Compared to its intended competition, 260 lb.-ft is plenty (There may be "hidden" 5-10 lb.-ft in this engine).
    STS: 252 lb.-ft
    GS300: 228 lb.-ft (new)
    530i: 214 lb.-ft
    E320: 231 lb.-ft
    A6/3.2: ~240 lb.-ft
    M35: 260-270 lb.-ft

    A 3.5/V6 can get you only so much! For 300 lb.-ft or more, at least 4.0-liter engine would be needed. That said, this car should perform more like V8 (since it is geared short!).
  • Thanks very much Robert for the magic key into that Japanese website (response.jp). Despite the wacky English translation, the clean, crisp photos needed none.

    The car looked great on that beautifully groomed track with the treeline in the background.

    I couldn't help but notice that some of these "prototype" cars had what looked a little like a molding strip running horizontally across the two side doors (driver and rear passenger) -- in other photos the strip looked a little like the carve out's in the doors on the new TL. Whatever it was, I liked it. I think that it adds some muscularity and more styling finesse to the car. I hope like heck that this detail survived the prototype phase and will materialize in the final car. Is that possible or am I just dreaming at this late date?
  • cericceric Posts: 1,093
    robertsmx,
    A Japanese magazine claims, new RL at 100km/h (~62mph)
    Gear RPM
    2nd 5500
    3rd 3800
    4th 2500
    5th 1800

    See Here
  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 2,529
    "Compared to its intended competition, 260 lb.-ft is plenty (There may be "hidden" 5-10 lb.-ft in this engine).
    STS: 252 lb.-ft"

    But the STS does at least offer the option of a V8 - with TQ = 315.

    - Ray
    Wondering what 'hidden' might mean in this context . . .
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