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Anyway, we've all read ads touting the latest miracle device or additive that will increase your fuel economy beyond your wildest dreams and that if Detroit wasn't involved in such a conspiracy to get us all to use the maximum amount of fuel, we would all be using these items on our cars right out of the factory.
Well, my car seems to be working in reverse in that it uses fuel overnight. Whenever I fill up the tank and only have a relatively few miles on it, the average fuel economy per the DIC goes down 2-3 tenths of a MPG from the time I pull into the driveway and when I start it back up the next day. Must be some type of averaging computation the computer uses but it sure is baffling.
The same Tribune article also said that the new Pontiac redesigns will be cleaner and without the ribbed body panels.
Last Sunday, the Tribune had an article that was quoting GM's president as saying that they have made great strides in the hard type quality issues as in the ones that can be measured. He said, however, that GM needs to make much bigger strides in improving perceived quality, especially in the interior area. Since I rarely, if ever, am in a luxury imported car, I don't have much of a frame of reference except for the Bonneville and I find it just fine. However, it would seem that there is a perception out there, at least with some buyers, that the GM interiors are a bit cheesy and needs to improve before they'll even consider a purchase.
What exactly was the problem you had with starting on your Bonneville? I noticed the other day that I turned the key and there was nothing at all the first attempt. Fine on the second.
Ken
Both times my car has failed to start, the problem has been the ignition switch. I know that was the problem the first time since it was diagnosed and fixed by the local(Illinois) dealer. That's what the dealer in Maine also told me but then, I don't have much faith in anything they said, considering it would start in neutral but not park. No problems since.
LeSabre sold 145K units. I guess people prefer the softer ride in this class.
Ken
So far only select Chevrolet and Pontiac vehicles are available (including 1993-present Bonneville), but I guess soon all the carlines will be participating. Anyway, I was able to enter my Tahoe and Bonneville, so we'll see how it works.
http://www.mygmlink.com
BTW - I finally got to check out Jeff's site mentioned above in #2342. Looks like he's attracted a good assortment of teens and other young guys driving prior generation Bonnevilles. Nice to see that someone younger than most of us here can appreciate these vehicles. Makes me feel pretty darn old at 46 though!
My wife and I took the Bonneville into Boston last night to go to a concert at Symphony Hall. I was driving in my usual assertive city manner and enjoying the handling of the S curves getting into and out of town and the smooth new tires. What a great car!
My occupation has taken me from home (Chicago) to Hadley, MA. I've been here since Aug 1st, I've seen some 2k+ Bonnevilles and waved, but no response.
Ken, I guess I haven't seen your ride yet.
The GM site: As far as it being a benefit to a to someone who moves around quite abit, maybe I missed something. The site thinks my primary service center is Tom Wood Pontiac in Indianaopolis, IN, where I bought the car.
My work took me to Chicago within an oil change of purchase, and I've been to two dealer service centers in the two years that I spent there.
Now, I have had four oil changes (tire rotate)since in MA. BTW the car has been completely trouble free at 53k.
One would think that GM would have a database of the of service performed on the VIN. But, maybe I missed something. Do you really have to enter your own maintenance info? That's no fun.
I have an Excel spreadsheet of every inch that my car has rolled since purchase, in my PocketPC. If any form of info has to be derived, it can be, with the mileage, gallons, services, cost, etc. that I keep a records of. But, I'm a surveyor. and sort of a nerd as far as records are concerned.
If I had a few minutes of free time, I'd do the pulley trick. However. the quickness of the car still hasn't become boring. I haven't gone out of my way to do any mods except for a K&N filter and Mobile 1.
What a great ride.
2000 SSEi
Rick
Still love the car, but I am increasingly disappointed about the vibration problem, which improved when they rebalanced the wheels (no more shake in the steering wheel) but still feels like I'm driving on a washboard at certain speeds on smooth roads. I really believe that it is not an easy thing to fix and I don't have patience for dealing with it, especially on a "new" car that cost well over $30 grand. I continue to live with it primarily because the Bonnie is not my daily ride, and when I do take it out I have much fun with it.
All you New England guys are making me homesick. I know I'm an oddball here in Florida, but I think there is something seriously wrong when it is 85 degrees and the mosquitoes are out in late January. Where's my cold weather?
Micheal - sorry bud - no snow, no cold, no solid ice on the ponds and lakes. The dirt roads are muddy and if it doesn't change soon the crocuses and tulips will be up! It feels and looks like late March around here. Really weird!!!
PATS in the Super Bowl?? But where's the wonder man - former coach Bill P??? How did this happen?
Seriously - it was great to see Bledsoe have an awesome game coming back as he did to take over from Brady after not playing since Sep. He's a great quarterback and apparantly a real gentleman too.
Best wishes to all
Ken
I see where Mercury is bringing back the Marauder ala the Impala SS. Supposed to have a very impressive 300+ hp. Hmmm. Could I be tempted? Maybe at the reported list price of around $30,000.
BTW I stopped at my local Pontiac GMC Cadillac dealer today and saw the new CTS - and was unimpressed. The Envoy, OTOH, is VERY impressive and I'd love to drive one to compare to the Trail Blazer I tried recently.
There were NO new Bonnies in sight! You'd think it was an orphan! OH well - I got the 2002 catalogue anyway.
Take care all
Ken
Ken
i can only relate right now to my own vehicles and so far no intake problems as a matter of fact, no problems with either car- both are running GREAT!!!! Thanks for the heads up and your concern- I'm really sorry for those that have had problems with this and can only hope that these are isolated cases.
Regards,
Chuck
They've been talking about all the added security but I doubt it will compare to the Olympics. I heard the the security in Utah is costing $300 million. Of course, that's 2 weeks vs. 1 day.
Anyway, if any of you are going to New Orleans, hope your experience is a good one!!
Stacy
Stephen
No plans for travelling farther than my sofa to watch the game on Sunday for me!
Thanks for stopping by. Take care.
Ken
I was reading over the posts and saw where your car got scratched. That's a shame. I'm still waiting for my first car scratch. (Just because I said this, I've jinxed myself!!) It seems like yours was probably an accident, but the person with the "8" scratch was definitely vandalism. I don't know why people do that.
Anyway, good luck with the Patriots!
Stacy
But my question is this- Can the Series II heads be bolted onto a Series I block with no trouble, or will the computer need to be updated to work with the newer heads? Will intakes, throttle bodies, ect carry over from the S I to the S II, or do I need an entire SII top end?
And now for the $64,000 question....
How much will all this cost?
To set the record straight, I basically grew up in St. Louis rooting for the St. Louis CARDINALS. The Rams were just some interlopers that came along when there was more money to be had than in Los Angeles.. Of course, if I still lived there, I'm sure I'd be on the Rams bandwagon too.
It's much better than a couple years ago trying to drive my 5 speed Taurus with a cast up to my left knee(softball). You definitely can't shift too smoothly with your right operating the clutch.
On the philosophy of everyone loves to root for the underdog, go Patriots.
Mark
As far as my SSEi is concerned, my driver's side seat warmer won't stay on. I only use it to warm it up for a minute or two on very cold mornings, but it clicks right off in a second or two.
Enjoy the game everyone.
Stephen
Remember that New England is about the same size geographically as Missouri. I'm not sure about population though. Also, don't forget that Missouri has two teams just in case one bandwagon is full!
I did go for the 100,000 mile warranty and wouldn't mind taking my chances with a new leather seat. I remember how firm it was before I had been sitting in it now for 50,000 miles. With each Bonneville I've had (5), my wife has reminded me just how cheap the leather is in these cars. I think they could provide better quality.
Now if only the Red Sox.........
Best wishes to all
Ken
Nice to see the super bowl live up to its name and for the NE Pats to take home the trophy!
How about a Phillies vs Red Sox World Series...one has to win?!
Two months till spring so everyone up north hold out just a little bit more.
Bonnie is running fine and closing in on 4000 miles. Gave the car a bath on Sunday. Will be available for inclusion for any Patriots Parade!!
All that is needed for a Pontiac display is a white and blue Bonnie!!!
Take care everyone ....
Steve
I hope Kurt enjoyed driving home in his Bonneville in that "cheap suit"!
The Budweiser bird theives were great - and the kneeling clydesdales in respect for WTC was touching.
Ken
Ken
Maybe Pontiac should spend more effort pushing the Bonneville rather than the Grand Prix in the Super Bowl. In February's Consumer Reports, the Grand Prix GT came in last against the Camry, Altima and Intrepid(?).