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Cadillac DeVille



  • g1994stsg1994sts Posts: 26
    It,s very enbarresing when your on the highway and other drivers observe and being laughed at, the wobbling handling on the older Sevilles and Devilles. There's hundreds of testimonials here In Edmunds Town Hall that Cadillacs bottom out very easily and in general most GM sedans.

    Resale value is another problem, I,ve had my car in the papers for about 9 months and nobody calls. I,ve had It priced in increments of 12,500, 11,500, 10,500,. I had one response and was offered $8,000. So were saying this $48,000 car with 89,000 in like new condition Is worth about the same as a 94-95 Honda Accord.

    Foreign import sales are up anywhere from 50% to 10%. GM's market share Is 28% down from 70% in the 70's. Simple implements like good ergonomics that anybody can feel confortable, good handling and design and GM Is again 20 years too late with their very slick looking cars. GM's sedans are simply not desireable. I rest my case.
  • mosaixmosaix Posts: 106
    Again, look at a 98 or newer Seville. Or even a 96 or newer STS. In 96 the STS went to CVRSS which is a major improvement over the RSS which earlier models had. Aagin, quit basing your decisions on an old design. Buick have a soft suspension because this is what their target demographic wants. You need to drive some CURRENT GM sedans before making assumptions. And if people are laughing at your STS on the highway, just give that Northstar some gas and let them laugh at your taillights as they get further and further away. Anyway, you mentioned you though Oldsmobile had the best designs at GM. After CURRENT Cadillacs, I'll agree with you on that and in fact I recently purchased an Oldsmobile Intrigue. Excellent car. Olds may be gone in a few years, but right now they have the best line of cars ever and they are discounting them big time and giving you a free 5 year 60,000 mile warranty. I'd suggest checking out an Intrigue or an Aurora.
  • sonjaabsonjaab Posts: 1,057
    If you think the resale is bad on your 94
    We have a 99 Kia around our house. Can't
    give it away...I wouldn't be caught DEAD
    driving it. But my mom loves it..........Geo
  • sonjaabsonjaab Posts: 1,057
    When we tried to trade our 90 Deville with
    120k plus miles on our 96 dealer would only
    give $1000 bucks. Put it in paper.. people
    fought over it and got $4200.
    Thats why we bought a used 96.... great deal
    Even with our gm discount a year old one was
    a better deal. But my gm xcab 4x4 trucks are
    different. I buy new every 3 years and the
    dealer drools and WANTS it in trade for top
  • Somebody's complaining about their STS in the Deville topic about it's old tech. suspension and wants everybody to stay clear from GM while there car never game him any significant problems? Like whatever, give me a break.

    Anyway, if anyone one of you read the luxury sport sedan comparo in Car and Driver's Sept. issue, they had a DTS that did from 0-60 in 6.4 seconds from standstill and from street start 6.8 seconds from 5 to 60 mph.

    Anyway, the comparo was BS and the DTS stacked up pretty well and said it was one of the best luxury machines out there although it was a wrong nature of automobile they chose. Other than that, the comparison was ridiculous while some cars had sport and non-sport packages.

    J "CaddyLac"
  • robh3robh3 Posts: 157
    Thank you for resting your case since it makes no sense.

    Frankly, I think the seats in the '94 were more comfortable than in my '99. The suspension in the '94 is firm, not wobbley and bobbley, in fact for '96 Caddy softened up the suspension because the feedback from customers was that it was too firm.

    The ergonomics were pretty much standard fare for the day. Everything was where it was supposed to be. Take a look in a contemporary Mercedes Benz and tell me that is good ergonomics!

    Are you sure they were laughing at your car? I had people role down their windows at stop lights to give me the thumbs up and say "nice car" when I had my '94. That is the truth. I did have some aftermarket wheels on it which gave it a more youthful flare, and that thing attracted positive attention. My peers laughed when I told them I bought a Cadillac, that was, until they actually saw my STS! The laughing stopped and the compliments started.

    You have lived in a different world and had a much different experience than the majority of us g1994sts. Therefore, your call to stay away from anything GM falls on deaf ears and comes across as pure ignorance. Citing declining market share just shows that you know nothing about market dynamics when increased competitive brands become available.

    Why don't you just dump your much maligned STS and save us all the grief.
  • pdc4pdc4 Posts: 2
    I have a '97 DeVille. I've noticed that the brakes "grab" as I come to a stop or if I let off the brake ever so slightly while at a complete stop and in gear. I just drove a 2000 Eldorado for a couple of days (has 10k miles on it) and noticed the same thing. Is this normal behavior?
  • mosaixmosaix Posts: 106
    My sentiments exactly. I think g man needs some new struts if his rides bobbley as the 93-95 versions were cited as having rather firm suspensions. And your correct about MB ergonomics. Take a look in the E-class. It has the same instrument cluster that MB has used for over 20 years. The radio is a tiny DIN sized unit like a Honda Civic has. And the console and center dash are peppered with buttons.
  • sonjaabsonjaab Posts: 1,057
    Over at the Real World Trade in Values.,
    Bill and co. are hitting a 94 sts at about
  • sonjaabsonjaab Posts: 1,057
    Hello all
    Was at my Alexandria Bay Ny place this
    weekend and took a trip to Casino D'Hull
    in ontario canada to do some gambling.
    96 northstar 1500 miles since last oil
    change and ONLY used 1/2 ot.
    Holy cow !! Engine must be breaking in
    at 78500k cuz it usually uses 1 qt or more.
    Left some $$$$ there too..........Geo
  • carnaughtcarnaught Posts: 1,569
    This past week I had my DTS in to fix the idle, malfunction of the massaging seats and leaking fluid. I had my loaner, as promised at the time of original delivery. The car has been in since last Thurs., and I'll probably get it back at the end of the week. The problem....while returning back from a trip to the airport Sunday, I SAW my car parked in someone's driveway literally on the other side of town and less than twelve feet from the (busy) street itself. Thinking my pampered car was safe in the "back" at the dealer's service dept. and seeing it at someone's house on a Sunday, literally sitting on the street outraged me. When I called and confronted my service manager, he first thought I was mistaken, but confirmed later I was correct. Then he rationaliized this, saying when he confronted the service man who took the car out, he was told that he briefly "borrowed" the car to go home and get a software program he needed to work on it (on Sunday yet) and was going to go right back to the dealership with it. How's this for an insult to one's intelligence and an outrage.....?
  • sonjaabsonjaab Posts: 1,057
    When i had no start problems on my 94
    Yukon I begged the service guys to
    take it HOME with them............
    I can see if they told you !!!!....Geo
  • First off...what's GEO mean?
    Secondly...Let's talk about something else.
    Third...I've been researching cars lately, and have come to the conclusion to get either an SUV or a Cadillac. If I get an SUV I think I'll get a 1996 Chevy Tahoe 2dr, or a 1996 Cadillac DeVille Concours. Any advice on the Cadillac. Please help me put here.
  • robh3robh3 Posts: 157
    Any magic with the year 1996 and you? Perhaps that represents your price point for these vehicles.

    The '96 Deville Concours has the Northstar engine, so that is a good thing. I think the only issue with that year is engine oil consumption. I believe there is another member here who has a '96 Deville and can give you some feedback.

    It would help to know how many miles the car has. Is an extended warranty available?
  • sonjaabsonjaab Posts: 1,057
    Meaning the service boys joyriding
    Carnaughts Caddy..........
  • arcoatesarcoates Posts: 221
    I can't believe a serviceman would take a customers car home for the weekend. That is obviously what he was doing. Software program my butt. I would be so outraged, demand that he be docked pay or something to penalise him, and have my car promply towed to another dealership (at their expense). I would also be calling GM to complain that their employees are joyriding in peoples cars that are supposed to be getting fixed. Ridiculous~ A.R.
  • carnaughtcarnaught Posts: 1,569
    Would you believe I still don't have the car back? I am waiting to get it, then I will appropritely express my outrage to the dealership and GM. It's taken all I can do to not be inaapropriate with my rage. Also, I will go by the same house this weekend and if the car happens to be there, I'll drive it home, then make the dealer explain what happened to it. I agree with you, the excuse was lame...getting software, my butt. I just wanted the public, at large to know of this outrage!
  • carnaughtcarnaught Posts: 1,569
    Would you believe I still don't have the car back? I am waiting to get it, then I will appropritely express my outrage to the dealership and GM. It's taken all I can do to not be inapropriate with my rage. Also, I will go by the same house this weekend and if the car happens to be there, I'll drive it home, then make the dealer explain what happened to it. I agree with you, the excuse was lame...getting software, my butt. I just wanted the public, at large to know of this outrage!
  • mosaixmosaix Posts: 106
    I'd contact the dealership owner and express your outrage and also express it to Cadillac as well. Thats beyond pathetic that they took your car home. I could see if it were a workday and he lived close by and maybe drove it home for lunch or something, but a Sunday morning. Come on! Few dealerships have service available on Saturdays, much less Sundays. He had the thing all weekend probably. Did you note the milage when you took the car in?
  • robh3robh3 Posts: 157
    The mileage should have been noted on the work order when the car was brought in for service.
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