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westerVW@msn.com and I will either email or fax
these numbers to you...remember, these are tiered
rates based on your Fair Isaac Score...715+ = *A*
Tier and those are the best rates...2.9% for 24mos
3.9% for 36mos., etc.
If you don't score that high the rates are still
great...there is a *B*, *C*, and *D* as well...
Let me know if you want more info...PS
Two weeks later, the faulty PCM was replaced! Gas; my eye! That's a "Shell" game!
AnyWho... my mix of candidates for a new car has expanded. I need an opinion or two, so I came to y'all!
I'm looking at three coupes, one of which I'd like to buy sometime in the next six weeks or so. But I thought I'd throw a cool sedan in the mix, and see if it floats my boat!
I'm looking at the '01 Jetta GLS V6 auto. That's the easy part. The packages are a little confusing. I'd like the sport suspension package and the leather, but have zero use for the cold weather gig (California, you know). Impressions? Advice? Deals?
I'm willing to give Wolfsburg another shot (the '96 Passat was beautiful and a blast, but the WORST maintenance nightmare ever), so a little frank input on current quality control is helpful as well.
Thanks,
Mark
runs through the close of business on 28 FeB.
The only things that the new VW Products have in
common with MY 96 are the names...And by the way,
you will grow to appreciate the heated seats and
back cushions that warmup...I, too, thought them to be useless until I started using them last year...was really surprised...
1. moonroof , invoice price:$808
2. Monsoon sound, invoice price:$287
So does this make the invoice price of the car as 17,713+808+287=18,808? Is this the invoice figure to be used to bargain with the dealer?Or is is lower? Also is a additional charge of $75+117 accounting for delivery charges and port charges valid?(The dealer said that it would be charges by everyone in california)Would appreciate the replies. Can't wait to own my Jetta Wolfsburg!!!
CD
How did you tell the turbo was bad each time?
How often do you change oil?
How many miles on the car?
How do you drive the car typically?
I have a 2001 TDI myself, and I have not had any problems so far, (13,000 miles in 4 months, hard and fast hwy driving)
Does anyone have any good or bad experiences with VW dealers in the Toronto area regarding chip mod installs?
(BTW sll3 I agree with you about used VWs... The asking price is usually ludicrous, I dont really understand if this is just the game or if VWs are actually that high demand?)
TDI & Wolfsburg, Golfs,excluding TDI & GTI, Beetles, excluding TDI.
Special APR offers end Feb. 28th...
I have three reasons, under-developed country, under-developed country and under-developed country. I can't think of any others though.....
Hey, did any of you see the trailer for the new Brad Pitt and Julia Roberts movie, "The Mexican"? They're driving a VW beetle and they're in Mexico!!!! Oh, the ironing is delicious.
>and I have my perfect Jetta to prove it. What do you have?
Stop rubbing it in......
>So go buy a Jetta - I know you want one!
I said, STOP!
Hey, vwguild, can't you just post that info right here, we want to know more about it. Even if the perspective is bias (you are a VW employee, right?), it's better then nothing.
Hall member who is putting together a Jetta Owners
web site...maybe he can cut & paste it into it, but, personally, I think it is too long to post here...what do you think???
I can't say enough good things about this car.
I live in Toledo OH and commute to North Detroit 65 mi one way every day.
Cold starts: I went thru a typical MI winter, single digits a few days, never a problem. Once, I had to crank it over for 3 seconds cold, but usually 1-2 seconds for a start 99% of time. I use Sunoco Diesel, but I don't know if it makes a difference. The car stinks during cold starts though, and this is unavoidable, the nature of a diesel engine. Much less stink during warm starts.
Acceleration: More than adequate on takeoffs, but you won't win any drag races. I can break the tires loose in 1st and 2nd if I get on it. Where this car really shines is passing from 60-90 mph. It feels strongest at 3000 RPM, then dies off.
Mileage: I got 51 mpg doing 65mph all week during break in, 47 mpg lowest doing 85mph average and cop-hunting. I have an Excel spreadsheet of all 13,000 miles to prove it.
My opinion, worth the extra $1000 if you put on many miles like I do, but if you only keep a car a few years, have fun and get a V6 loaded for a quick resell. Otherwise, get past your warranty period and chip the TDI out with Wetterauer or Upsolute and get 120+ HP and 200 ft-lbs torque. Then the fun will begin.
KROMKAMP: do not tell the dealer you are chipping. Why volunteer info that could only come back to bite you? If you do engine or tranny damage, they will have no mercy and you will likely have to buy parts from them. Best to play innocent. Check your local junkyards for spare 1.8T or Jetta parts - likely none to be found or you will pay thru the nose.
PS to all of you GLX and 1.8 turbo owners. The Subaru WRX debuts here in 18 days in wagon and sedan form and doesnt give me the stigma of driving a chick car. So there will be no more dominating of the low $20K sedan market. It starts at $23K. Also whats with the 25K price tag on the new jetta wagon. That's approaching Passat territory. Seems to me that Volkswagon is trying too hard to be like Audi and has forgotten its roots of being an affordable car maker. My $.02
http://www.mexibeetle.com/
Try the above links for info. on the Mexican Beetle available in the US.
$21,800 seems a little unrealistic for a car that invoices at $22.5.
If $23,500 is an OTD price, I'd say you did just fine. If that's a pre-tax, fee and tag price, it seems about $600-$750 high.
But hey, what do I know!
Best,
Mark
You invoice looks like $22,378 plus maybe $200 for the spoiler (I would not pay more for THAT item). So call it $22,578 invoice.
Still sounds like they're about $500 high pre-tax.
Let me know how it goes. That's the same set up I like (minus the spoiler).
Best,
Mark
I've got about 575 miles on it, and I love it. This car is such fun to drive, and I've had no problems at all so far.
I'll take my $20,400 1.8T, chip it for $500 and pocket the $4000 thank you very much.
And if there's anyone who already bought Jetta GLX, could you tell me how much it cost? The one I drove today was GLX with every available option-such as sports suspension, 17" wheel, multi-function steering wheel, and head airbag.
Please help me. Because this is first time I'm about to buy Volswagen car, it makes me pretty nervous. The other I might consider is Accord EX-V6. Good night.
Good luck and I hope you're happy with whatever you end up getting!
1. consider a subaru AND
2. call the jetta a "chick car"...
ok maybe the forrester is okay, but bro, the jetta is far from a chick car...
go to bed
josh
looking to buy a '93 TD.
There is no comparison between the WRX and the Jetta 1.8T. The Jetta chipped is just as fast, $4,000 cheaper, and is not incredibly ugly like the WRX. Also, there are many performance parts available for the Jetta - nothing for the WRX.
The only thing the Jetta lacks is AWD (which is OK, but adds weight and complexity). Compare the resale value of a VW vs a Subaru too!
Mark
On the other hand, it is no doubt that WRX can provide us something no other cars, including VW, can provide. You may be able to tweak 1.8T to get more power, but remember, normal production models of WRX in Asia/Europe produces 280+ horse powers and the same engine is used for WRC in which I don't know how much power is produced. Clearly, WRX's root in WRC is something special and we are fortunate to be able to experience a part of it (WRC is the only world championship which is based on 'REAL' production models).
In a circuit, I am not sure even premium cars like BMW330 and Audi S4 can beat the $24K WRX. Some reviews already reported 0-60 for 5.5s. Of course, accerelation is just a small part of a car. Still, if I am buying a car, I would be in serious problem to decide VR6/1.8T vs WRX. VW can make everyday's commutation enjoyable and relaxed. WRX gives me a lot of excitement. These two cars live in different places and no direct comparison may be irrelevant but for those who are buying a car, it is highly likely they are compared. Which is better is not a good question, but the question is, which motor life you would choose.
One final note: When I am driving VR6, I always feel that I am on the way to buying BMW330 someday and VR6 is a 'poor man's 330'. Everytime I see BMW329/330, I envy it. If I had WRX, I guess I could forget it because I would be in a totally different leage (and I can beat 330 )
Mark
One of the reasons why I am interested in the Jetta, is that it's not as bland as my Legacy sedan. Don't get me wrong, I love my car, but a little more spice would be nice. If Subaru wants to combine what I love about my car right now and add some spice to it, I'm willing to listen. I'd be crazy not to. At the same time, if I'm someone who is looking for a car in that price range (and don't have a grudge against Subaru, like it seems mellis does...) then why not check it out? If your investing that kind of money, explore all your options.
Mark
I tried to clean it with a vacuum and a lint brush, and the black lint is still covering anything. I never fabric protected the seats, and am trying to get all the lint off before I do.
A minor problem, but my new car looks filthy.
Any ideas?