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They didn't have the color we wanted though, to get the color right we were offered two choices:
1) take a 2013 same model (tow, mat, plus roof crossbars) for 26700 cash, or
2) a 2012 model (tow, mat) plus entune navigation for 26500 cash AR ( or 27500 with 0% finance).
Net-net we think offer 1) is better because we don't really care about integrated gps, however we prefer the 0% finance so we took 2).
Dealer doc runner fees were fixed standard. We were told in advance so we have that in mind while negotiating.
This is our first new car experience, we hope we were doing ok. My feeling is there is still room for say 500 lower if we wanted spend two more hours there. The online quote is a low ball offer to get people to the dealer, but definitely not their bottom line.
About the sales rep, not the type we like though, not very informative, too pushy and resulted in backfire several times.
Where did you install the navi and backup sensors? I just got a basic XLE but with a $1000 higher price than yours. Sad... Thanks.
In my case there was nothing "open" (color, financing etc) before I stepped in the dealership so did not get to see the traditional haggling side of things, just paid and drover off. At the end it was the price and that was not bad at all.
Oddly it was leased in NY so not with SETF, but rather TFS. TFS told us (at first) to go to any Toyota dealership and they would do the transfer paperwork rather than us just sending in a check through the mail (as is customary) to buyout the lease. I didn't think too much of it since there was a brand new dealership in BRadenton that I wanted to see anyway. We go in and the dealership is new and shiny, they bring out the paperwork and it is 14300 not itemized. I ask them how they got to that figure, I mean expect to pay tax/reg etc but this was much. They try to stick us for 900$ dealer fee to fill out 30minutes of paperwork, plus another 800$ that couldn't be accounted for they said it was inspection fee.
I stormed out called toyota and after a bunch of calls someone pointed us to a lexus dealer in the area that did the paperwork for us for about 100$ very fair they are I guess a TFS company.
The Toyota dealerships are absolutely terrible in our area (Sarasota/Manatee counties) and this is about the 3rd really bad experience in one down here that has sworn me off of individual dealerships. I wonder is it just SETF arrogance becuase the stock answer from Toyota each time I have called to complain is "Sorry each dealership is independently owned we cant do anyhting"?
I wish I had known this in advance because it was stressful,
Ray
This is a wonderful forum and I thank you all in advance for sharing your wisdom.
We have a 2nd baby coming and with family visiting often need to get a minivan.
Since 2013 models have come into market I was looking for a 2012 new car to get some price leverage and finally have a quote that seems to be OK but need your feedback -
Its for a Sienna LE Dealer Demo Model (2012/5338A) with 6K miles, includes LE Convenience Package + LE Preferred Package + Towing Prep Package for 26,500. My guess is I would need to pay separate sales tax that is not factored in the dealer's final price. Does this look like a decent deal for a 2012 LE with 6K miles ? The MSRP on the sticker was 29,700 + 220 (anti theft) + 220 (Towing prep) + 325 (Carpet foor Mats/Door Still Protector) + 810 (Delivery Processing and Handling Fee) = 31,275.
LE Convenience Package –
includes fixed center console and roof rails.
LE Preferred Package -
Dual power-sliding doors and power rear door, an eight-way power driver seat with power lumbar support, electrochromatic rearview mirror with Homelink, multi-information display with backup camera, rear window sunshades, AM/FM/MP3 CD audio with integrated SiriusXM satellite radio capability with 90 day trial subscription, auxiliary audio jack, USB port with iPod connectivity, and hands-free phone capability and music streaming via Bluetooth connectivity, and steering wheel audio controls
Towing Prep Package -
includes 3500-lb. towing capacity, engine oil cooler, heavy-duty radiator and fan. Anti-theft system with alarm and engine immobilizer.
If you review some of the posts here you can see that New 2012 LE V6 8-pass FWD were purchased (with all those options plus more) for less than 26,500. I myself purchased one in Aug for 26,401 + ttl. In Sep Toyota has more incentives (750 vs 1000) so I think the best price to target on V6 LE 8-pass FWD is around 26,250 when 1000 cash incentive is used (including destination & dealer fees, mats, tow prep and roof rail cross bars), depending on the local market couple of hundreds more.
I would stay away from that LE 4-cyl deal, moreover V6 would be a better choice in my opinion (the 4-cyl only has miniscule mileage advantage and at times is underpowered for a van of such space & versatility). This may be the reason Toyota dropped 4-cyl all together for 2013.
Thanks again.
There was a post here recently that 2013 LE V6 8-pass FWD with tow-prep, mats and roof crossbars offered for 26,700 cash at the same Boston dealer where I purchased my 2012. Add about 400 dealer fee to that for final price of 27,100 excluding sales tax, title and license. Approx. 500 premium compared to the price offered on a 2012 with comparable accessories. These are the best prices on 2012 & 2013 V6 LEs I have seen in the posts here and elsewhere. I do not see how they can be any more expensive in Chicago, provided you find a volume/value dealership. A few hundred dollars more on what I noted may still be reasonable. This should given you an idea. Good luck with your search.
All said and done I ended up buying the demo yesterday, I chose to do the 0% APR instead of the cash offer as it would help me span out the payments without any finance charge for 5 years.
Any ideas on the extended warranties on these - I have read some stories about issues with power sliding doors on the Sienna and was wondering if it was worth buying the warranty - my dealer gave me a best quote of 1540 for a 8 year/100 K warranty - I would appreciate if people can share their thoughts on both the price and value of an extended warranty on the Sienna.
TIA
In my opinion the extended warranty (called VSA - Vehicle Service Agreement by Toyota) is a good investment if you plan to keep the car well beyond the 3yr basic warranty. Given the complex systems in today's cars a single repair can be as costly as the price of protection plan. The non-powertrain related items (power doors etc) may not be as reliable as powertrain in the long-term.
If you decide to purchase, try toyotaofdanville, IL or Midwest Toyota, KS (midwestsuperstore.com) -- more details at siennachat. The same plan offered by the dealer can be purchased for about 1040 (the platinum plan, highest coverage with zero deductible) plus you may save on sales tax. All dealerships sell the same plans backed by Toyota and can be purchased before the basic warranty expires. While there are other coverage lengths I think 8yr/100k is the right period/mileage.
Yes, I was torn between the demo with 6K miles and a new 1 that was only $317 more but when I factored in dealer proximity and fact that the demo has engine immobalizer and tow prep package I thought that might be a better value down the road, we don't expect to put a whole lot of miles on the car.
Yes, sienna chat is a excellent forum - I did get the 1040 quote from Midwest and am now waiting on Doug's quote - the finance guy at my dealership said he can match any quote so I would just hopefully trim the warranty I bought at 1540 down to atleast 1040 hopefully !
Thanks again and I hope I will contribute more to the forum.
I have 2 more questions about the Sienna -
1. Are there different floor matts for the Sienna / Minivan's or the regular ones would work ? I got some from Sams Club and they seem to fit if I trim them a bit but was wondering about this.
2. Since I have LE not XLE with fabric seats that are light grey color and will be driving with 2 kids are there any good seat covers I can buy to protect them from spills/accidents etc ?
(1) Only mats that are custom-fit for the model would fit neatly. I am looking to replace my carpet OEM mats with all-season ones before the winter. I heard good reviews about hexomats that cover all of 2nd & 3rd row space just exposing the tracks for sliding the 2nd row seats. People at siennachat like these compared to OEM all-season mats.
(2) I have the same "easy-clean" fabric-trimmed seats and two small kids to test them. Had not looked into covers yet, so please post if you come across something that are custom-fit.
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Just purchased a 2012 Toyota Sienna LE V6 MSRP (313xx) from DCH Freehold Toyota in NJ. Bought it OTD for 29700. Process was relatively painless. i think the purchase price before tax was around 274xx. I think this is the lowest in the central NJ area from experience from emailing back and forth. Made a trip out to Dayton Toyota earlier, large selection of vans, but great unwillingness to negotiate. Thanks for the help through the posts guys!
Firstly, thanks to everyone for the informative posts. I was able to get a 2012 Sienna LE V6 for 26,700 (excluding taxes and title) in Fayetteville, AR. The dealer was unwilling to add any packages (like towing prep or all-weather mats). Tax is approx 6% in AR, which I will have to pay once I get my registration papers in mail 2 weeks from now. The dealer was very nice and gave me 4 color options. I went with the Silver one.
Cheers
I'm looking for front wheel drive, 6cyl, leather interior, full safety features for the kids. I was reading that some of these safety features are add-ons, not sure if that's true or not, but fact remains that I'd not be driving a minivan unless I had kids, both of whom I'd to protect by owning a rolling pillow ! Without the kids, I'd be ripping it up in a Cobra!
So, I'd love to hear some advice, I'm getting all kinds of dealer talk, I'd like to make a smart purchase.
I'm a bit worried about the used market because I'm replacing my Jeep due to the repairs it needs - my father has owned his own garage for 40 years, he's gotten too ill to keep it going and I don't want to ask him to work on the cars anymore, he just can't. I'm super worried about paying all this money for a used van and then being back where I am now, needed a mechanic.
I would very much appreciate your feedback. I don't believe in reinventing the wheel, I'm totally appreciative of buyers who've gone before me.
Thanks,
Traci
I bought the car at ~ 27, 700 and was wondering if this is due to rebate or is there really a $1000 price difference between IL and AR prices.
Carpet Floor Mats/Door Sill Protector
Door Edge Guard
Cargo Net
Anti-theft System with Alarm and Engine Immobilizer
Towing Prep Package: Includes Engine Oil Cooler, Larger Radiator and Fan
Do you think I could get this car for less? And if so, what do you think is the lowest price I'd be able to get this car for? Thank you in advance for your help.
I am getting the run around from dealers as to the specific rebates currently being offered. Could you let me know whether the 2012 and 2013 models have any special rebates associated with them?
Is there any customer loyalty discount being offered?
Thanks for your help
When did you buy your Sienna? Is the $500 rebate for the 2013s' still in effect for October?
I assume that there is currently no loyalty discount offered by Toyota to prior customers.
Good Luck!!
mastergunner, your profile indicates that your email address is private.
In other words, should I be looking to pay MSRP less about $3600 plus TT&L only?
I am using Fitzmall as a benchmark.
Carpet Floor Mats/Door Sill Protector
Cargo Net
Anti-theft System with Alarm and Engine Immobilizer
Towing Prep Package: Includes Engine Oil Cooler, Larger Radiator and Fan
Door Edge Guard
2012 with the following options for $30,164 out the door.
Carpet Floor Mats/Door Sill Protector
Cargo Net
Anti-theft System with Alarm and Engine Immobilizer
Towing Prep Package: Includes Engine Oil Cooler, Larger Radiator and Fan
Roof Rack
I'm in Southern California and I can't seem to get any dealerships to give me lower than the above quotes. Do you think I could do better? Which of the two offers do you think is better?
Total: $33,134 + $499 dealer fee + $147 tags & inspection + %3 NC tax $994 = $34774
What do you guys think? I have not yet tried to negotiate on pricing.
Sale price was $43500 (before tax and dealer fee) which just a bit under invoice. MSRP was $47595.
No freebies like door still protector or cargo net or anti theft.
Hope this helps.
Am pleased with the deal I got ....... and thanks to everyone who provided feedback on appropriate pricing.
Sale price was $43500 (before tax and dealer fee). MSRP was $48,492.
I got the price by calling about 10 dealerships on 10/29 (Hurricane Sandy got in the way). Followed up on 11/1 and 11/2 with the dealerships that were open. Agreed on the price on the phone, put down a deposit, they got the car in and we met to close the sale today.
No guarantee they'll have the best price today, but it's worth a call. Dealers lost a lot of business after Sandy, so they're looking to make it up now.