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Saab 9-5 Sedan

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  • ffb13ffb13 Posts: 181
    this is a possible issue but i doubt it does what you described.
    the waste gate allows the dumping of excess pressure to keep the internal press. within the envelope.and, the press.within operating limits.

    if sticking it will cause the car to stumble but only at max.rpm or max.acceleration and you would see the press. gauge go from yellow into the red. and at this point the car would act as if missing.
  • Guess it's back to the ECU then?
  • I am getting ready to place my 2000 SAAB 95 SE,13,500 miles, Scarabe Green, all the options except CD changer and vented seats. 4year/50,000mile warranty. Car has a new hood protector, uninstalled mud flaps. The car has never been through the car wash, always hand washed, hand waxed (carnuba) and hand buffed and stored in the garage. No scratches, door dings, and all services have been performed by the Hilton Head SAAB dealer. I personally drove the car off the show room floor in Trollhaaten, Sweden. Immaculate! asking $29,500
  • GBrianKGBrianK Posts: 211
    Price sounds a little high.... I saw a 9-5 SE with all the goodies a couple of months ago go for $27200....
  • After a very disappointing buying and service experience with an Eastern dealership, I will probably have to turn elsewhere for service. Have you had any experience with dealerships in Eastern Canada? Would you care to comment and, perhaps, make some recommendations?

    Thanks for your help! Regards, Peter
  • Recently purchased 9-5 V6 wagon and have horrible sulfur odor from catalytic convertor. Spoke to service manager and he stated Saab was aware of problem but nothing is wrong. I have owned Saabs for 10 years and never had this problem with any other car. Tried different brands of fuel and different octanes with no change. Any one else have similar problems?Any suggestions? Jeff
  • dskidski Posts: 414
    >Any one else have similar problems?Any suggestions? Jeff

    I've not had the problem but I do have a suggestion. It sounds to me like it's burning the fuel too rich but I'm no expert. My suggestion is to simply tell them that the condition is unacceptable and must be corrected. When they try to tell you it's normal, I'd simply stick to my guns explaining that your well aware that other Saab owners aren't reporting the condition and it is "Unacceptable" for you to have to live with it.

    Best of Luck
    Drew
  • GBrianKGBrianK Posts: 211
    I had the same smell in my 9-3SE. The sulfur smell subsides after 1000 miles. It has something to do with the break-in period on the exhaust system.
  • bretfrazbretfraz Posts: 2,021
    My '00 9-5 SE does this as well. I've tried various fuels as Jeff has with no improvement.

    My feeling is that it's related to reformulated fuels we get in the winter. Various regions of the country get different formulations so I'm sure this effect varies as well.

    I'm waiting for Spring and "normal" fuel to return. My Saab has other issues; squeaky driver's seat, creaking rear door, whistling A/C blower. I'll have it all fixed at the 6000 mile oil change.
  • I am looking at buying a new 9-5 SE. The dealer called today and said they have one 2000
    9-5 SE left. I offered $31,000, but they would not come down from $32,000. It has 100 miles.
    Is this price fair? Is there somewhere else I should be looking for competetive pricing? Thanks
    for any help.
  • I just "fell" into a 99' 9-5 SE/4 cyl. I know you just dont fall into a Saab, not even on a good day, but I've been looking at either Saabs or Volvos and couldn't make up my mind. Someone wanted out of their lease (she got married and moved to Holland), and at a very negotiated price of below $350/mo.for the next 2.5 years, my mind was quickly made up. This fine vehicle has 20K miles on it, and is in almost flawless condition (a few very small scratches).

    I've got a few questions for the 9-5 experts out there;
    1. What kind of mileage should I expect to be getting? (1.5 yrs old/ 20K, well maintained).I don't race it, but I do like to give her a "kick" now and then. I've only has it 3 weeks, and I'm looking at @ 17-19 mpg.

    2. Will driving the sport mode severely affect mileage as well? (it's a blast!)

    3. What octane do you recommend? I've 'been using 89 up to this point.

    4. MY wife doesn't drive (grew up in the city, and she has me, her chauffer). We moved out of the city recently, and I'll soon need a second car. Could anyone suggest a previously-owned Saab (model/year) that the wife would feel just as comfortable and safe in?

    5. Finally, Got any suggestions on how I can clean my windshield wipers? $20. for a new pair sounds a bit steep (dealer).

    I've read these posts before. Saab, Volvo (with all their problems, they still love the car), VW, and I thought all you guys were nuts, and have way too much time on your hands. But I've come to realize you're not crazy you're consumed, and I know why. This is a satisfying car. It feels good, it fits, it's balanced. I like the way I "slip" into it, and I even enjoy driving my son to school, even though we're .5 miles away.

    I suddenly find myself volunteering to "go get things", and offering to drive to friends/relatives I never wanted to visit driving my Altima.

    Driving the 9-5 is fun, in fact, enlightening. I really like this car, and didn't think it would have such a profound effect on me. I almost wish my wife doesn't learn to drive, because she's going to have to fight me for this car.

    I drove an Altima before this (another very good lease assumption), and you know what, I can't go back. Thanks alot.

    Converted
  • dskidski Posts: 414
    Octane: I've found that I need to use premium fuel in my area. I was getting slight pinging under moderate load until I switched to the higher grade. That was before Saab replaced the ECM unit so maybe I can go back to the middle grade.

    Wiper Blades: Cleaning or not - you will eventually have to replace them. Saab is using an odd size which forces you to buy from them but you can get around that. Just go to an auto parts store and buy a "Refill" blade for the next higher size. I think it's 23inch. Then simply cut them down. Be careful not to cut too short. I used a small hax saw since you have to cut thru a small metal piece. It's very simple to do and you get a better blade for less money.

    A used Saab: I'd go with anything WELL maintained that is older than 1993 (no automaitcs) or a 1998 or newer- automatic or standard. Or another option, any used 9000 since '93 that does NOT have and automatic. I strongly recommend avoiding automatic 9000's and older 900's - newer 9-5's and 9-3's? Take your pick, either in any combo should be fine. For a truely special car, find one of the last 5 speed 9000 Aeros. I think they quit making that version around '95 or '96.

    Hmm, was that confusing enough?

    Best of luck.
    Drew
  • dysfunct9dysfunct9 Posts: 10
    Though I love my Saab 9-5, named Bjorn, to pieces, it doesn't get the best (or advertised) gas mileage. It's nearing 5,000 miles and I'm averaging 13-15 mpg in the city. Granted, I live in Los Angeles, where traffic is more than "slightly" slower than most cities. Still, even with freeway driving about 1/3 of the miles, I repeated average under 15 mpg at each fill-up. The good news is that Bjorn gets exceptional freeway-only mileage. On a roadtrip to Palm Desert a few weeks ago, I got nearly 35 mpg with exclusive freeway driving.

    All the best.

    P.S. Anytime you use the "Sport" mode, or any other similar "mode" on other vehicles, in which the engine "revs out" each gear, you will get poorer gas mileage. It's worth it, though, eh?
  • scj1000scj1000 Posts: 3
    I purchased a Scab 9-5 SE which I am picking up from the dealer on Friday. The car had the 17" BBS wheels with the low profile tires. I wasn't crazy about the BBS wheels so I am having them switch back to the regular 16" SE wheels and tires. The dealer says the BBS wheels won't have any additional value at resale (although they now are a $1,650 option). Is this true? If they do increase resale value, maybe I should take the BBS (they are included with the car I purchased) and purchase winter wheels. Any comments??
  • bmwjoebmwjoe Posts: 136
    The BBS wheels are way nice. OTOH, they are pot hole magnets. I would sell them on eBay and you should get $600+ for them if you advertise on saabnet.com You can put this money toward a set of 16" or 15" snow wheels and tires.

    Snow tires make a huge difference.

    Drive Safe,

    Joe
  • roxreps1roxreps1 Posts: 10
    Agreed. Keep the BBS rims (the dealer makes out big time if you switch them) and sell them. I think you should get closer to a grand dependng on your zip code. I've got a question maybe someone can answer. I've got a 9-5 SE (99') and I'm perplexed. I'm having the hardest time backing straight out of my garage. I keep finding myself on my grass, to the right. I finally looked down at the steering wheel, and while I think I'm backing out perfectly straight, the wheel is positioned askew and to the left.Now the last time I looked, my garage didn't have a curve to it, and I haven't been drinking. On the road, the wheel seems just about centered. Am I going nuts, or does this car naturally lean to the right? Any thoughts?

    Rox
  • banker74banker74 Posts: 26
    Hi all,
    I'll admit - I've been set on the new Volvo S60 T5 for a few months. Nonetheless, something about both the 9-5 Aero and 9-3 SE draw me in. Can somebody convince me why it's better to go w/ the Saab and it's older platform instead of the newer S60 T5 - and I'm not talking about looks because that is completely subjective.

    Thanks,
    Derek
  • kiiwiikiiwii Posts: 284
    Hi Everyone! I'm thinking about getting a Saab, but I never had a vehicle with turbo. Remember few years ago, my friend told me that turbos don't last for too long. They requite lots of maintance. Also, since they build up so much pressure and stress, engines with turbos have problems quite often. Are these true? Thanks for answering my question & sorry about these dumb questions for "turbo-beginners." =P
  • bretfrazbretfraz Posts: 2,021
    I'll give you $1000 today (or ASAP) for those 17" wheels and tires. Or I'll make you a deal on my stock 16" SE wheels and tires; they have 5000 miles on them.

    Click on my handle and e-mail me. I'm 100% serious.
  • ffb13ffb13 Posts: 181
    the wheels you can sell for $1000 OR MORE.
    i still prefer the std. wheels also.but the bbs do look great .but avoid potholes.

    the volvo vs saab----think reliability---even though the newer saab is still a question mark the volvo is a known headache.--and ,the saab is more nimble ,thus more fun to drive.---but the seats on the volvo are superior for long trips.

    i have a volvo turbo and even though most parts in the car have failed ,the turbo ,only needed replacement at 175,000 miles.----the car now has 228,000 and the new turbo is still strong.----i would not worry about the newer turbos and their reliability ,nor its effects on the engine---that is,provided that they are a saab or volvo because of their long experience with them.
  • dskidski Posts: 414
    How long ago did your friend comment on Turbo's not last too long? For the last 10 years or so, Turbo's have been very reliable and last for many years and miles. Early turbos did not cool down efficiently at the end of a drive. If you wanted those to last, you would have to let your engine idle for a couple minutes after a drive to allow it to cool.

    Now of course, if you don't have a turbo, you'll never have the potential of have having it fail but I wouldn't hesitate owning one because of that. If you don't have airconditioning, you never have the potential of having that fail either. Do you remember the days when airconditioners were not reliable?

    Good Luck
    Drew
  • kiiwiikiiwii Posts: 284
    Drew, thank you for your response. My friend told me about the turbo prob when I was shopping for a car 7-8 yrs ago. That's why I never considered cars w/turbos ever since then.

    I'm currently looking for a car that's reliable, safe, fits my budget, and doesn't have the "generic" style. Saab is one of the few that doesn't give the feeling of "I-look-just-like- everyone-else." =) =)
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Posts: 2,645
    I had an '85 Mitsu Mirage Turbo. I changed oil every 3000 miles and after high speed driving gave the turbo at least a 30 second cool down (which you don't have to do anymore?). I sold the car (regretfully, FUN car!!!) after about three years and 45,000+ miles. The mechanic who inspected it for the (psycho father for his college-bound daughter) buyer commented what great shape it was in, especially for a Turbo. Like anything, if you take good care of it, it should take care of you...
    Looking forward to the next generation 9-3 to maybe replace my wife's 900.

    '13 Jaguar XF, '11 BMW 535xi, '02 Lexus RX300

  • dpaulldpaull Posts: 1
    I have a 99 with a 4 cylinder and a manual transmission (about 24k miles). I get 25 mpg or so in combo type driving. I only use premium fuel.

    Also, I have a question. On my fuel gauge, the top letter is F which I assume means Full. The bottom letter is R. What does that mean, Refill?
  • dskidski Posts: 414
    >I had an '85 Mitsu Mirage Turbo. I changed oil every 3000 miles and after high speed driving gave the turbo at least a 30 second cool down (which you don't have to do anymore?). I sold the car (regretfully, FUN car!!!)<

    Yep, people who treated the "old" turbos like you did, were very happy owners for doing the right thing.

    Unfortunately, it was hard for the dealer sales guy to tell people to allow their engines to cool down by idling after a spirited drive. Thus, Turbos didn't last long. Who wanted to buy a car that needed to sit idling for 30 seconds to a couple minutes everytime they got home? The good news is that the problems resulted in very reliable Turbo designs for the few companies that still sell them. And certainly there is no need to fear owning todays turbo's.

    Drew
  • smu1976smu1976 Posts: 110
    The 9-5 got another "recommended" in the April annual Auto issue that came out this week.
    This is sure a great step for Scab who has not ever tested well with CR prior.
    The Audio A6 dropped out from last year due to reliability problems.

    A quick tip if your service light on the display is driving you crazy. Push the clear button once briefly, then wait a few seconds and push it again and hold it down for 15 seconds. Well, all gone. Don't forget to change the oil though.
  • dysfunct9dysfunct9 Posts: 10
    Hi everyone: I am currently leasing a '00 Saab 9-5 base model (silver 4-cylinder) with the Luxury Package for $364/mo plus tax. It also has the ultra-chic genuine wood steering wheel. It has just reached the 5,000 mile mark. Though I love the car, I need to exchange it for a car with much cheaper payments (though I realize I have an excellent deal) fairly soon in order to meet some financial goals. The current deal on the Saab website for the same car is $439/mo plus around $4000 in drive-off costs. I hear there is a $500 lease transfer fee. Is it reasonable to assume that this car should be an easy sell? Not only is it practically brand-new (in showroom condition), but there would be no down payment (besides the $500 transfer fee) and a shorter than average lease term...29 months left. If it is an easy sell, any suggestions on where I should advertise? I'd appreciate any suggestions/advice. Thanks!
  • boonsboroboonsboro Posts: 22
    To dysfunct9. If you are any where nere Maryland I'd like to talk off list @ minsk@bigfoot.com.
  • I too am interested in possibly assuming your lease. I'm located in California, where are you?

    Please email me directly at- gmtcoving@aol.com

    E-mail me even if you're in another state, I may travel?
    Thanks,
    Gary
  • bretfrazbretfraz Posts: 2,021
    What else is Dysfunc gonna get? One of those "$179/month" Saturns? That Ford Ranger deal that's on TV (what, $169/month)?
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