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BMW 3-Series 2005 and earlier

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 30,545
    Congratulations!! It is that last part that would worry me... the brake line bleed...

    But, I'm just thinking out loud.. The chances of me attempting this are almost zero.. Plus, brake pads are free for another 30K miles, if I need them... Just curious.. thanks for the info.

    regards,
    kyfdx

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  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Hmmm, my brake pads were free for many more miles as well on my 530i, that said, so was the elbow grease (mine) to clean that nasty black stuff off of my beautiful 2-Piece Type 42 wheels. :-/ That made the swap to the PBR/Axxis pads a no-brainer. ;-)

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 30,545
    Yeah.. I've seen your pictures of those wheels.. that might have motivated me, also.. Great looking, but a bear to clean.. Plus, I'm not that picky on how clean I get mine... It is my wife's car, after all...

    Plus, style 96 and M68 are a lot easier to clean than yours... not quite as nice looking, though.. thank goodness they don't fit a 3-series, or I'd be looking for a set.

    regards,
    kyfdx

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  • brave1heartbrave1heart Posts: 2,698
    Who's this Shipo guy everyone's talking about?!? Does he even own a 3-series :o)
  • brave1heartbrave1heart Posts: 2,698
    <<Resetting it is a pain.>>>

    What do you mean? You just turn the electronics on (without starting the engine), leave them on for a minute or so and the light is gone.
  • paulepaule Posts: 382
    You may want to take into account that you would also have to buy a rim for the spare tire if you go with the runflats. I would assume there would be no spare tire\rim on a runflat equipped car.

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  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    I tried that. It didn't work. Another poster on another forum indicated to do it in the full on position w/o the engine running. I tried that and it didn't work either. So I did a combination of both of those. :)

    I eventually did it in each position. I also shot some cleaner into the contacts where the sensors connect. That helped some too.

    Even though my 325xi is a 2002, I have LONG since blown away the mileage portion of the warranty (lots of highway miles). The less dust was a no-brainer for me too. :) My wheels (sport package wheels on the xi) are pretty easy to clean, but I hate having to take that extra time doing it. The new pads make it much faster to clean.

    -Paul
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    ROTFLMAO! ;-)

    Well, it seems that my decision has been made regarding my 530i. As much as I love it, I'm turning it back in at lease end (next spring). Then I'm going to wait for the kinks to get worked out on the E90 and do another ED trip, this time for a 2006 330i 6-Speed (three pedal version). In the meantime, I'm going to drive our old "Green Monster" Dodge Caravan. Yup, once again I'm going to be BMW-less for (hopefully) only about six months or there abouts. So, what am I going to do with the extra dough? Well, assuming that things continue to go as planned, I'm going to finally finish my flying lessons and buy a small 4-place plane (probably a Cessna).

    So, do I even own a 3-Series? Nope, not anymore. I will however most likly rejoin y'alls ranks about this time next year. ;-)

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • brave1heartbrave1heart Posts: 2,698
    You are trading your vehicle for one with half the horsepower?!? Go figure :o)
  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    to having an E60. :)

    -Paul
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 30,545
    Not to be nosy.. okay, I am...

    What is the residual on your 530i?

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  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Hmmm, half the horsepower, not quite. ;-) Assuming that I pickup a C-172 with either the 150 hp O-320 or the 145 hp O-300, I will be dropping 75-80 hp. That said, I am highly likely to do a FireWall Forward upgrade to the new Diesel that will be offered here next year. That mill is only 135 hp however, even a further drop, however, it actually had more static thrust so the Diesel (which is a heavily modified turbocharged MB motor) should perform better pretty much at any altitude. Then when I get the E90 330i and combine the weight of the two and divide that by their combined HP, I should come out just about even. ;-)

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Hmmm, I don't know, I'll check when I get back home and let you know.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
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  • Folks,

    Arrived at dealer with certified cheque in hand ... observed stone chip on hood prior to handing over cheque ... told them this was unacceptable and I would not take delivery with this problem ... they suggested taking delivery and they would do whatever it takes to fix hood to my satisfaction but it was my choice ... ended up taking delivery with their promise to replace chipped hood with a new hood from another vehicle they've found at another dealer ... told them touchup and buff is never the same and I wouldn't accept that ... what a major disappointment to find the stone chip at time of delivery :-(( any thoughts from the experts on this panel???
  • m4d_cowm4d_cow Posts: 1,491
    delivery on US dealers has been quite an issue, saying they'd replace the hood is actually unusual since most american dealers wouldnt even take responsibility for it.
    the same thing happened to my parents when they bought a new mercedes, it had a stone chip on the rear bumper and the dealer wouldnt replace it, saying they assume no responsibility once the car leaves the dealer parkinglot.
    yes its a major major disappointment, but sadly theres nothing we can do about it, its practically the same with almost all dealers here
  • Not sure if you fully understood my situation ... stone chip was noted BEFORE I took delivery while vehicle was still on dealer's lot ... does that change your comments at all?
  • bmw323isbmw323is Posts: 410
    I ordered my car from Germany. During the waiting process, I asked what would happen if the car was damaged during transit. Their answer was that it would be repaired to my satisfaction (repainted). I said I wasn't interested in taking delivery of a "repaired" new car. The only other alternative they gave me was to order another car and wait 2-3 months. Fortunately my car wasn't damaged (but how would anyone know unless you saw it being unloaded?).
  • m4d_cowm4d_cow Posts: 1,491
    yep that changes the whole situation. well things happen during shipping, and sadly all dealers will say the same thing, that they'll offer a repaint service free of charge, or wait another 2 months to get a new one, just like bmw323 said.
    its actually quite unusual for them (dealers) to offer you to replace just the chipped hood, which will be taken from another car (just fyi, some places consider it a crime), heck the color wont be the same though.
    also, like bmw323 said, it "looks" undamaged, but unless we see it unloaded from the ship ourselves, theres no way to know :(
    the only country i know to assure every bmw comes in 1 piece w/o even a tiny scratch is japan, due to their strict customer protection program
  • heck the color wont be the same though.

    Silver gray metallic is not the same from car to car?
  • gordonwdgordonwd Posts: 337
    >Silver gray metallic is not the same
    >from car to car?

    That's correct, and metallics are the worst, especially a light color like silver. You could probably swap a solid black hood from car to car and not see it, but metallics are very sensitive to the particular mix of paint and to the pattern that they are sprayed with. Actually, with today's automated paint systems (my company happens to provide BMW's paint systems), this is much less of a problem than it used to be with hand-sprayed cars, but a really picky person could probably tell the difference.

    That's also why any experienced used-car dealer can take one look at a car and tell that it's had bodywork done on it.
  • div2div2 Posts: 2,580
    I know Woody; I'm surprised that he's selling the car. I haven't seen the car for some time but I would assume that it's in very good condition. You might be able to snag a later Sport for similar money but it won't have the OBDI M42(or the M3 mirrors). Good miles, decent price-all I'd do is pitch the K&N and replace it with an ITG.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 30,545
    Yeah.. he says he is selling because he bought a new one...

    When you say: "snag a later Sport", is that a newer 318ti with the Sport package? Because, '95 was the only year for the Club Sport option, right? Drawbacks or benefits to one or the other (other than the ones you mentioned)?

    Also, what is an ITG? Some kind of cold-air intake?

    regards,
    kyfdx

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  • div2div2 Posts: 2,580
    From 1996-on the Sport Package was essentially the same as the Club Sport package. Here are the major differences:

    No M3 mirrors

    The LSD option was phased out in 1996 when traction control became standard-:p

    More options became available-on the CS you could only get a sunroof, LSD, and Premium Sound(the ten speaker Premium Sound System became standard sometime in the 1996 model year).

    Speaking of sound, the head unit in the 1995 is superior to the unit in the later cars; I got this straight from an engineer at NA. My wife drove a 1998 for a couple of years, and we both agreed that it didn't sound as good as my 1995. FWIW, the 1995 sounds better than the DSP system in our 1997 E39...

    The 1.9 M44 has a bit more torque than the 1.8 M42 in the CS, but the M44 is OBDII and hence harder to tweak. Jim Conforti told me he never offered a Shark Injector for the M44 because he couldn't find enough HP to justify the cost. Dinan begs to differ.

    More color combinations-the CS came in either Bright Red or Jet Black with Black Montana leather/Red Millpoint Cloth interior trim.

    All tis got vented front rotors in early 1998.

    ALL 1999 tis were Sports, and they got the way cool three spoke M steering wheel from the M Roadster/Coupe.

    Some people refer to the later Sports as "Club Sports", but they are dead wrong. I've also seen the Sports package identified as the "M Package" or "M3 Package", but there ain't no such animal...
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 30,545
    div2: thanks..

    Does there seem to be some "collectibility" factor in the prices of the Club Sport? Or was that pretty much tossed out, once they made those options standard in the Sport package the next year?

    I have noticed the "M3 package" ads.. I figured that was BS (but, no BS package, oddly enough).

    Assuming I'm not going to "chip" the car, either way... Any reason to pick a Club Sport over a newer Sport?

    regards,
    kyfdx

    P.S.: Believe it or not, my ten-year-old is the one keeping me interested in this.. the ti is his favorite car... I kind of like the '91 318is a little better.

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  • m4d_cowm4d_cow Posts: 1,491
    Silver gray metallic is not the same from car to car?

    True, even w/ automated painting system, and believe me you dont have to be that picky to be able to tell the difference
  • div2div2 Posts: 2,580
    A Club Sport might be worth a small premium to someone who really, really, wants one. I seriously doubt that they will ever be collectable, even though less than 300 were built. FWIW, mine is especially rare because it is one of no more than than 5 that were built without a sunroof; Prior to SOP BMWAG decided to make the sunroof a "mandatory option" on all Club Sports. My salesperson went to bat for me and had my Club Sport-along with one other-built without a hole in the roof. All I've done to mine is add the BMW CD Changer, front splash guards, M Technic rear spoiler, and a UUC Motorwerks RKII SS shift knob and clutch stop. As for ITG filters, they are low restriction replacement elements which can be cleaned and reused. Unlike K&N elements/filters, they DO filter out abrasive dust and grit.
    Funny you should mention the E30 318is; I've often considered buying a nice one to use as my commuter car. I drove one back in 1990 when they were first introduced. They are great cars, and the E30s have a timeless style.
    BTW my (almost)ten year old son thinks he's getting my ti when he turns sixteen. Yeah, right...
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 30,545
    Thanks again... I think I now know more about 318ti's than I do about my own cars...

    There is an E30 318is that I see at the local high school a lot... I'm thinking maybe belongs to a football player, because it is always there after school hours.. I've thought about dropping a note on it.. I figure..if Daddy bought him a BMW for high school, he's bound to be getting something better to take to college, right?

    Anyway..getting back to ti's... I do like that special interior in the Club Sports... but, it sure does open up more possibilities, if you expand the search to any Sport pkg. equipped ti. And, believe it or not, if I got it, I probably would pass it on in 5-6 years.. But, then.. you buying yours new.. I could understand your reluctance..

    regards,
    kyfdx

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  • div2div2 Posts: 2,580
    Sorry for the confusion, but the black leather/red Millpoint upholstery was still available in later years. Happy hunting! ti or is-you can't make a bad choice...
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