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No, I bought a '05 LS430 before the LS460 was available. Interestingly, I just was talking to a fellow I know who called his CLS "an expensive piece of junk".
I'm still disappointed that no current S550 owners have responded to my inquiry about their experiences with the reliability of their cars.
thats strange that no1 has responded abt the new s class here
he calls it a piece of junk :sick: but why :confuse: he should have test drove it before buying it.
I don't like cars like cls my self because when ur sitting ur head is touching the roof i am not sure but i had also felt like this in the new LS as well.
Also, worth considering the new S is also the highest ranked car in the industry for initial quality by JD Power and considered to be one of the top ten most reliable cars in the world by the European Automotive Press. This has certainly proved true in my case.
I find it kind of funny because I will readily admit that Lexus' have long been more reliable than Mercedes but my friend got a new LS460 a little over a year ago and its back in the shop a fourth time this weekend for the same transmission problem. If you want my opinion, go with the S550. In the long run the Lexus may still prove slightly more reliable, but there is no denying the S will be a vastly more satisfying car to own.
DId u ever drive ur friends LS if you did how do you compare it with ur s class?
Also, worth considering the new S is also the highest ranked car in the industry for initial quality by JD Power and considered to be one of the top ten most reliable cars in the world by the European Automotive Press. This has certainly proved true in my case.
top 10 in the world which are the other 9cars?
May be interested in the RS90 17 lorinser wheels you have. I am looking for spares for my 560SEC. Have a set on the car with et22 wheels. What is the off set of your wheels. thank you in advance.
Jim Houk
Thanx
This is just my opinion, I think the Lexus is a fantastic car, but the S really is in a league of its own.
Lastly, I don't really remember what all ten were. A good majority were cars sold exclusively in Europe. I do remember that along with the S550 were the Porsche 911, Lexus LS, and Honda Accord. Aside from that I don't really remember and I cannot find the article anymore.
I agree on that even sitting in the seat feels that its a huge car to drive and while sitting in the 7seri it felt small and easy to drive.
The LS achieves its supreme refinement by completely removing you from the road,
So ur saying there is no road feeling now this is the second time i heard this about the lexus?
My biggest complaint, however, was that the interior of the LS is filled with hard plastics where the S uses leather. Overall it felt a lot more Toyota than Lexus and I have to say I thought the old LS430 had a better built interior.
But it is a part of toyota so ur bound to feel like its a toyota
This is just my opinion, I think the Lexus is a fantastic car, but the S really is in a league of its own.
Well off course but only a 20 year old company is regularly being compare to a 100+ years old mercedes gotta give some credit to lexus specially for reliability
Anyway thanks for your reply,
I am trying to decide between a SUV currently i favor the X5 but after hearing scary posts about reliability concerns and electronic failures software concerns electronic complicated to use compare to a lexus thats the main reason why i am leaning towards lexus reliability is a big concern to me
to me LX is to big to compare to these 3 and the RX is well something else.
I'd like to own a V12 once in my life. If you could buy one of these things right (ie., for the same price as a comparable S500), how bad would it be? Especially if certified? Or should I just check myself in for a 28 day program at McClean in Boston?
Otherwise nice salesperson didn't have very good answers.
Thanks
Thinking of taking the leap to a MB as I like the look better then the GS and LS.I was toying with a S but the Airmatic issues so I concentrated on the E350 's(both 06 and 07's CPO's) but was very dissapointed to find them with vinyl ("MB tex") unless they have the less common leather option (about 1500).No way I would buy a luxury car with taxi cab seats no matter how the "sell" it("last longer","can't tell the diffence"),so I am back to the S's (05- 06's)
In the 05-06's how bad are the troublesome airmatic issues and what other problems should I expect?
thanks
The first version of air matic had issues. The newer one with with ADS II has been problem free for me in 6 years. It is also the best suspension system I have ever had including a Lexus LS.
The E class gets the Airmatic in the V-8 models at a $10k premium.
I need the 4-Matic as it has saved my [non-permissible content removed] so many times on snow and ice.
I left Lexus for that and other reasons.
If you bye an '05 or newer you will have plenty of warranty left to help with your concerns.
Thanks in advance for your help,
Mike
Hahahaha, thats the funniest thing I've ever heard.
They are lying to your friend, the car was most probably damaged when bringing from the sea port.
Advice your friend to change the car as soon as possible.
You believed them?
Honestly now folks, think about it. Why in the world anyone want to drive ANY car 50, 100, 500 or say over 1000 miles having to constantly compensate for the car pulling to the right every inch of the way. And that is just the way it is, there is nothing you can do about it, that's crazy!!! When you get behind the wheel you ideally want the car to almost drive itself, that's when you know have a nice machine. It always feel like the trip is over before you get started because the machine is just that comfortable to drive.
A car constantly pulling to the right would be a job, not a pleasure to drive. In short, I don't believe anyone would intentionally build a car to do that. I can't tell you the exact number is, but there are an astronomical number of people in this country that die in accidents from tree collisions, and just drifting into the other lane of traffic traveling in the same direction. Yes, I do understand that the chance of taking out less people minimizing the accident to your side of the road, but nevertheless...... Steering and stoping are probably the two most important safety features in an automobil aside from the obvious, the cars construction and air bags. I can not believe an manufactuer would tamper with either of them. In my mind that would just be totally irresponsible to say the very least. I have two Mercedes, an S (97) and a ML 350 (03) (which is a piece junk almost from day one) and I don't have that problem. If there is any truth to this pulling to the right thing, I would be astonished!
Peace
Hi,
Your cars have been a piece of junk from day1, why?
When the first benz was a piece of junk, why did you purchase it for the second time? :confuse:
I've been reading a lot that benzs are pulling to the right side, I am just a bit surprised that most posters here believe what the dealers are saying, how the hell can this be a normal thing. :mad:
Thanks, Mark
Anyone aware of any dealerships offering 0% financing?
thanks
I need advice. I want to buy 2007 S-class with about 30K. How, in general, reliable this car ? I used to lease cars, but in todays market buying makes more sense.
Any suggestions or ideas ? I'm choosing between Lexus LS and MB S-class. Both are nice cars, but MB looks better and LS, according to consumer's reports, more reliable.
Good luck to all.
Do yourself a favor and buy a Pontiac, yes PONTIAC! G8 GXP. Before you laugh research it. Save a ton of money (28,000) and be happy you did. But if you're after status go back to one of your original choices. If you want be smart and look good doing it, with over 400 HP to boot, trust me. You'll have your cake and eat it too.
Peace
Thanks for advice, but if I'd like to buy Pontiac - I'd ask about Pontiac, but unfortunately I wanna buy MB or Lexus )) . I agree that G8 is a nice car, but it does not fit in my vision of luxury car. It's probably very good sport sedan, that losing value like any american car after 2 years almost to zero )
Good luck to you anyway.
The dealer wanted 900 bucks to repair the radio, I've found there are very few people that will come near those radios. I refused to spend any more money on it, I therefore drove around about a year and half without a radio. I finally broke down and bought a KENWOOD touch screen with a DVD/CD play to replace it. The brake situation is kind of weird. When you are not applying the brake you get this loud hissing sound, when you apply the brake it stops. According to the dealer this does not create a dangerous situaion, if you can live with the noise??? Mind you most of these of these problems occurred within the first 3 to four years. Trust me, you are going to recommend them to all of your enemies.
On another note, as if you have nothing else to do, go by a MB dealer's "Service" area and you'll find more ML's there than any of the models, but you'll also find plenty of them on the road, marketing.
PEACE, AND BE WELL.
I wanna go to dealers’ action and buy 2 years old car, that still on warranty for 2 years. Based on what I see - today you can easily buy S with about 25K-30K on it for about 40 grand. I think it's a good price. if you sell it after 2 years of ownership and calculate how much you lost - it will be a lot less than to lease this car brand new. So, you have a car, which is on warranty and you pay almost half of standard lease price. I think it's a good deal. What do you think?
The IRS for tax year 2009 allows a tax deduction of 55 cents per mile for business miles driven. The 55 cents per mile is an estimate of per mile cost of total vehicle usage and therefore in that 55 cents includes gas, insurance, tolls, etc. You're other option is to document your business usage and keep all of your receipts. Because that requires alot of time and being neat and organized the IRS gives the other option of 55 cents per mile. Usually keeping records and finding out the true cost will result in higher deductions, so the IRS punishes the lazy with a much lower rate.
I'm not sure where you are getting an automatic $1,500 write off but logically that doesn't make sense.
If I buy a 100,000 Mercedes, BMW, etc. I pro rate my expenses: gas, insurance, repairs, tolls, etc. & also take a depreciation deduction over the life of the vehicle. Say I drive 15,000 miles a year & 8,500 of those are for business. 56.67% of my costs should be expensed throught the business plus depreciation & the other portion is personal and should be paid out of pocket.
replace the hard foam with something a lot softer and flatter. Any thougths on
the wisdom of this? Thanks in advance.
I am thinking about upgrading (in size) from a 06 E350 4matic to a 2004 S-class, either a S500 or S430, both w/ the 4 matic.
Does anyone out there have any advice on the reliability of the 2004 models? Nervous about the age, but so far, my 06 E has been solid, no issues at 54K miles.
Also, I checked trade in values of both and they appear to be similar. Anyone recently purchase a used 2004 or 2005 S-class and share their price range? I am looking at 2 vehicles in the 50K mile range. Boston area.
Thanks for any input.