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From the German Toyota website:
Motorentechnologie
Anzahl Zylinder 4
Motorbauart Reihenmotor
Ventiltrieb DOHC
Zylinderbohrung 73 mm
Zylinderhub 81,5 mm
tatsächlicher Hubraum in ccm 1364
Verdichtungsverhältnis 18.5:1
Motorleistung in KW bei Umdrehung 55 KW/4000 upm
Motorleistung in PS bei Umdrehung 75 PS/4000 upm
Maximales Drehmoment 170 Nm bei 2000-2800 upm
Höchstgeschwindigkeit 170 km/h
Beschleunigung von 0 - 100 Km/h 12,6 sec
Not even one comment about the front leg room which is most important for us six footers. I am buying the 2 doors any way, it is easier to get in and out, but I wonder how can I drive it with only 40.1 inches at the front leg room. Ofcourse I would not dare to buy anything but automatic!. Accent 2006 is coming with 42.8 inches front leg room, but a Hyundai can not be compare to a Toyota!.
Can any one tell me whether there is enough leg room for a tall driver?. There are tall men in Canada! and in Europe. How can they manage?"> :confuse:
I suspect however having watched other people driving that the testing isnt entirely to blame for the poor results of hybrids mileage. Although I am able to squeeze 40 mpg from my ECHO in local driving, there are very few people who drive as conservativly as I do. I am reminded of rats in a cage when I see drivers in Philly.
that has 25 K miles and is loaded with all of the options [package 1 and 2 as well as rear defrost] as well as alloy wheels for $6000. Car exterior has slight left front body damage and a number of superficial scrapes on doors and bumpers. Mechanically and interior-wise it is fine. Clean CARFAX record.Good deal???
thanks,
Don
Thanks in advance,
Don Gillespie
A standard 5/8 inch sparkplug socket will remove the plugs. Itll have to have a rubber insert to hold the plug. Incidently, if the insert fits the plug too tightly it can pull the socket off the six inch extension youll also need. (and leave the socket with the plug down in the engine) I spray the rubber insert with WD40 and test beforehand to make sure the plug will come out easily.
Also, does this car have a low-fuel warning light?
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
I ended up with 38 mpg on the first tank, using 9 1/2 gallons of gas. Obviously, this is preliminary, and I will be averaging in the future. But 38 seems pretty good for all in-town, suburban driving, even if I WAS hoping for 40. I will try harder with the next tank. :-)
Love this car so far, it is so minimalist! I know it has a lot of hard plastic inside, but they got all the important stuff right - the HVAC and wiper/turn signal controls all move smoothly just as they should in a Toyota, the door handles feel solid and move fluidly when you use them, it has great stereo speakers (6x9 on the back deck, yes!) that really perform if you stick in a decent high-powered stereo, and it rides over bad pavement without tossing you around or jarring everyone and spilling your coffee. It gets up and goes, and it stops quickly.
And I think I can get 40 mpg in my daily driving if I try hard enough! All that, plus comfy front seats that also give rear seat riders plenty of foot room underneath, just the right ride height (it's small, but the roof is high enough that those monster SUVs can still see you), and strong A/C.
I am waiting to see the Yaris in person to decide if I lost out by not waiting, but from everything I have read, there won't be a lot of tangible advantages to the Yaris over the Echo, except better looks and maybe a sprinkling of nicer interior materials.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
The Yaris is also heavier by several hundred pounds so it wont accelerate or get as good mpg as the ECHO. I could wish my ECHO was a hatchbac though.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
No oil consumption at 60K miles, great stereo (Pioneer), comfy seats, strong A/C, and 40 to the gallon. So far I am very pleased with this car, it is performing exactly as I had hoped. :-)
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Oh, and in NorCal we really never get muggy days, although where I am we get plenty of 90-degree days in the late summer.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Filtration effienceny of KN airfilter 95%
By installing a KN airfilter you have just increased the ammount of dirt entering your engine by 400%.
Still want KN airfilter?
Niels
If 100 grams of dirt hits the KN airfilter, being 95% efficient it will pass 5 grams of dirt.
Toyota airfilter 1 gram of dirt.
KN airfilter 5 grams of dirt.
Net gain: 4 grams of dirt. I guess you could look at it like its a 500% percent increase.
Mmm, high-level math - :sick:
the only thing you know is that one filter removes 95% out of 100% and the other filter removes 99% out of 100%.
if 100 particals try to get through one filter and 95 are stopped, you stopped 95%
if 100 particals try to get through the other filter and 99 are stopped you have 99%.
to be technical, one filter allows 4.21% more particals through than the other.
this is an interesting exercise, but the point made by kneisl is correct... why allow more dirt through the filter than is necessary
Niels
Which is not to say I might not buy one in a few years! :-)
Anyone here put on tires wider than the stock 175s? Just wondering if it knocks the fuel economy way down, or just a little. If so, what size tires did you get?
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Putting wider tires on DOES increase the amount of rolling resistance the tires provide, which in turn reduces the fuel economy of the car. When I went from 225s to 265s on my old truck, the mileage dropped more than 10%.
So, I am thinking I might see a 2-point drop if I go from 175s to 185s or perhaps 195s. Just wondering if any owners had actual experience with this sort of thing.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
I just wondering how the pirelli's P3000 are doing?
I am thinking on getting those.
Thanks!!
Here is what I suggest to make the ECHO an even better car:
1) make it lighter. 1700 pounds would be excellent.
2) make it a diesel.
3) if they cant make it a diesel make it a one liter engine. actually that might be better because it wouldnt cost any more money to make the way a diesel engine would.
4) make a mini ECHO with a two cylinder 500cc engine weighing less than 1400 pounds.
I have the same fears as you do for the Yaris, which is the same old Echo all over again but with better looks. I hope it makes it though, we need cars in this class to be available in the U.S.
The Echo may not be a BMW, but it is a Toyota through and through, and that means a lot of good things too. It means a high-tech powertrain with top-notch durability and reliability, few repair needs over the life of the car, and good comfort, ergonomics, etc in an inexpensive car.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)