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Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedans



  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    I just checked out the website, man MB is starting in early with the new car stuff. They usually don't release this much info until at least August. Mercedes-Benz may take back the sales crown for 2003 with all this new product.

  • lhcleunglhcleung Posts: 24
    Jean: Thanks for the info. But I believe that the E320 Benz is quiet enough. I think it has a lot to do with personal bias or preference. I think, those associations or organziations may have their own agenda, at least a small portion.
  • magnetophonemagnetophone Posts: 605
    Gosh, 73K is rather high!
  • Many of BMW's best models, 3 series--(coupe, cab, sedan, &wagon) Z3, and X5 are all made in America. As time progresses more Mercedes models will also be built here. The ML had Major problems for its first few years. The 2002 slight overhaul went a long way to bring the SUV up to Benz standards.

    I think that the 2004 model redesign, and the upcoming GST, redesigned G-wagon will all eventually be produced in Alabama. By that time I think there will be little to no difference in factory quality and vehicle tolerances. I would still take a 2002 ML500 or X5 over any midsize SUV competitor.
  • Kirstie@EdmundsKirstie@Edmunds Posts: 10,676
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  • wbreauxwbreaux Posts: 33
    I just saw on the Mercedes web site that the 2003 E320 will do 0-60 in 7.7 and the E500 5.9. My 2000 E320 was listed my Mercedes as 7.1 seconds. Any idea on how the 2003 could be that much slower to 60 mph?
  • magnetophonemagnetophone Posts: 605
    glamourlife, they don't make the 3-series in America.
  • valueguyvalueguy Posts: 208
    The 3, 5 and 7 series are all built in Germany. (I have a '02 330.)
    The G wagon is built like a tank, albeit a 20 year old one. My friends who own a G wagon appreciate the solid steel construction and detail the OLD M-B is famous for. The new products, IMHO, are using M-B's reputation for quality to sell cars. But, in 20 years time will that reputation remain intact? I seriously doubt it. I envision the day when the LEXUS nameplate is the standard by which quality is measured and that day is almost here.

    As for the best SUV, Lexus/Toyota wins that match easily. As a side note my friend just traded his problem ridden '00ML for a '02 Acura MDX and he can not believe how much better built the Acura is. I would much rather have a Land Cruiser then a ML or X5 in terms of quality.

    My hope is that the new E re-establishes M-B as the leader in quality. My next car will be fast and reliable. The ball is in M-B's court.
  • splitoesplitoe Posts: 19
    I purchased a 2001 E320 last year. It's a great car. However, I did experience a lot of problems and replaced the following items:
    muffler, fuel injector control unit, sun shade, air conditioner fan control unit. Some of the problems were intermittent and required more than one trip to the dealer.
    In addition the dealer replaced cable (twice) and engine mount to curb excessive vibration in idle with little luck. Finally the dealer claimed it was normal. MB sent mechanics to do engine tests and reported it normal, but they didn't (couldn't, maybe?) do vibration test. I even wrote to MB and got the response of everything normal, case closed.
    Anyone know how to pursue from here? Is there any state (CA) office or any consumer agency to report to? I always have much better luch with Toyota's and this is my first MB. I cancelled my C-class order and got back my $2000 deposit after experiencing the first few problems with my E320.
  • polo2928bpolo2928b Posts: 21
    I have a "00" 528 which I love but is a lease and I am buying my next car whihc will be a 5 series or the E class, has anyone driven both cars and has an opinion about it, although I must confess I have never driven a car as a BMW, it is definitely the ultimate driving machine
  • benznutbenznut Posts: 104
    73 is way too much for an E, even a new one.

    "The new products, IMHO, are using M-B's reputation for quality to sell cars. But, in 20 years time will that reputation remain intact? I seriously doubt it" - MB has a hundred-year-old history. It would not have been such had they let things slip, even for a half-car-generation worth of cars. They are already making a noticeable turn. In my opinion, the reputaion will be even better in the future, as well as possessing something that, until a little while ago, belonged exclusively to BMW.
  • rayberg7rayberg7 Posts: 7
    I just returned from a trip to Europe, where I looked at the new E class at the dealer showroom.
    I took some pictures that you won't see at, but I can't figure out how to attach them to this message. Anyway, the trunk of the 2003 seems to be a welcome 6 to 8 inches deeper. I saw one with a ski sleeve, but I didn't see any with fold down rear seatbacks. The cars I looked at had no spare tire. They have eliminated the cup holder, not that what we have in the 2000-2002 was any good. There is a cover in the console that opens to a hole about 2 by 4 inches. Maybe Mercedes will furnish an odd-shaped cup for it. Some of the cars had a cleanable, 5-spoke wheel, but others had a wheel that would be harder to clean than the ones on my 2000 E-320. Since I was traveling to Eastern Europe as well as Germany, I couldn't rent a Mercedes. But I was impressed with the 2-liter Ford Mondeao diesel that I did drive. It had plenty of power and gave great mileage, even though I spent much time driving 90 to 100 mph. The Germans have done a great job on their diesel engines. I hope Mercedes imports the E270 CDI here.
  • magnetophonemagnetophone Posts: 605
    rayberg, according to AutoNews, they are importing the E270 CDI to America in 2003 or 2004, with the next generation E-class.

    And, I agree with you wholeheartedly. The Mondeo is quite an impressive car!
  • mbecmbec Posts: 2
    Have approx. 26k miles on my E320 with normal driving. The pads / rotors need
    replacing. Is this normal? I would expect pad / rotor life to longer on a $50k car.
    I know MB using a softer pad but to me that is not a reason for the life to be short
    versus most other cars and the owner having spend at extra $600 every 25k miles
    to replace.
  • paulchiupaulchiu Posts: 378

    Read you are selling your 2000 S500 for the E500 sports at 73K with distronics.

    I have the 2001 S500 with distronics and ABC. It drives very well. But remember, distronics, ABC, and parktronics are worthless at the time of resale to dealers. Only body kits like "sport packages" which make the exterior look different are worth anything. So bear this in mind.

    As for the E500 sports, wouldn't your S500 be a quicker 0-60mph car? Have more room, and more quiet? (I know I am a little bore with my 2001 S500 now, but....)

    At 73K, you might want to wait another year for the new E55; which will have sub 5 sec 0-60mph and sport body kits and a massive 460bhp.

  • wbreauxwbreaux Posts: 33
    My brake pads had to be replaced at about the same mileage on my 2000 E320. I do a mixture of city / highway driving and was surprised at having to replace so soon.
  • jstylejstyle Posts: 129
    A lot of you thought 73K price for the E500 was high. Well I am getting all available options except for the V60 phone and that price includes delivery and my states sales tax at 9 percent. So unless the dealer has the wrong price list I guess that price is right.
  • e2000e2000 Posts: 5
    Does any one have any experience with after market brake pads/rotors.
  • onlyagirlonlyagirl Posts: 45
    Hello my name implies I am only a girl and I need help from some of you...I have a 2000 E320(31k miles) ...for some time now....for well over a year I have noticed a rubbing noise around the front left tire...I mostly can hear it when I am pulling up to the carport...or turning into the drive....I notice it more now since I have the windows down more....the rubbing is somehow tied to either the tire or something else that is rotating as it is faster when I speed up and slower as I slow has been to 2 different MB service centers....once last May.....was told they couldn't hear it so it must have been a rock in the wheel well...supposedly they checked the entire braking system ...took it back in Jan to another center and was told it was the tire(but no explaination of WHAT the tire is rubbing on or WHY)...he did not say I needed to get new tires at that point but that soon I would really bothers me because I can't believe it is nothing to be concerned about....I am calling my service advisor again either tomorrow or Monday...I would like to know if anyone else has experienced this problem and/or do any of you have any ideas or suggestions...
  • sddlwsddlw Posts: 361
    Your mechanic should take a road test with you until he hears the noise too. It might be wheel bearings. They can make very funny noises when they first start to go.
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