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Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedans

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  • 2ndmb2ndmb Posts: 72
    You should check edmunds on the value of this car. I've seen them on MB dealer sights for as much as 47k. I think a good price is going to be close to 40-42k. Anything more than that, you should consider a new style E320.
  • mbnut1mbnut1 Posts: 403
    Thanks for the response. I hope that you are correct. It doesn't make sense to me that Mercedes would not have included the changes when thet updated model, however I remain a little unsure because the IIHS grouped "1997 to "early" 2000's" and "late" 2000 to 2002's. BTW which 2000 E do you have and how do you like it?
  • joeadpjoeadp Posts: 68
    I have the E320 silver/charcoal interior.

    The car is amazing. Best car I have ever owned.
    Love the feel of quality in the interior and the
    responsive engine.

    I have two other cars but this one is a keeper.
    One option I would add is a 4 matic.

    Good luck
  • khicekhice Posts: 13
    I'm considering my first MB purchase--this will also be my first used car purchase. A 1999 E320 sedan, 46,900 miles, one owner, Starmark Certified. The car is in excellent condition, clean & has every option as far as I can tell, though I am surprised at the lack of steering wheel control buttons. The car performs well though the auto transmission shifts rougher than I expected. The dealer is reputable & has the car priced at the midpoint of the KBB and Edmunds range (upper 20's). Is there anything in particular I should look for before buying & what kind of maintenance investment can I expect down the road. I plan to keep the car at least 2 years.
  • The Stone interior is simply the most elagant and stunning interior I have seen but it does get dirty. The seats are fine. But the cloth interior near the foot wells and the bottom of the door are easily smudged by the shoes... You have to put some effort into cleaning it...I would recommend to MB that the cloth/fabric like interior close to and around the footwells be of some other material..
  • microrepairmicrorepair Eastern MassachusettsPosts: 508
    khice:

    When I bought my first E320 (haven't bought the second yet, may never have to!) it had 38,000 miles and was Starmarked. The dealer had replaced all brake pads and front rotors and all four tires. And also refinished one fender that had a very small scratch. The Starmark goal is to deliver you a car that is virtually new and you should make sure that kind of maintenance is done before you agree to a deal. Maintenance that you might have to do within the two years really depends upon mow many miles you put on it. I had to have the front end suspension and steering rubber bushings replaced around 75,000 under the Starmark warranty ( normal retail around $1000) and I've replaced all the cooling hoses and the ignition wires and plugs, between 85,000 and 95,000 miles. I've also replaced the front pads twice and most recently installed new rotors again. (I did the hoses, ignition, and brake overhaul myself for BIG savings; total parts around $350.)

    You mentioned roughness in the shifting. Beware of that because one thing it should do is shift smoothly with a slight feeling of firmness, not roughness..

    The E class is an awesome auto! Good luck with it if you buy it!
  • 2ndmb2ndmb Posts: 72
    Does anyone have some info on when the E350 4 matic pricing and order info will be available? This is with the new 245hp V-6. I have heard that this is coming in August 2003 as an 04 model. Any insight is appreciated
  • joeadpjoeadp Posts: 68
    Seems too early for change to the new E320.

    An E350 will reduce the resale value of the new E.

    Just my opinion.
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    I also heard this fall for the E350 sedan, with arrival date of Septeber/October. We were in the dealership checking on a possible replacement of our SUV with a new E350 Wagon w/ 4-matic. Still no word on when that will be available.

    joeadp - If you recall, the E420 was replaced with the E430 within one year of the last redesign. The 3.2 liter V-6 has been targeted for replacement for well over a year. It should not come as a surprise and probably won't affect resale on the 2003 that much. What will be more interesting will be what happens with MB's introduction of their new, high performance, diesel engines to the US market. An associate who has one (E270) in Germany claims that it outperforms the 3.2 liter V-6 gas in all categories AND gets 30+ mpg at 100+ mph on the Autobahn. That is probably part of the reason for MB's decision to upgrade the 3.2 to a 3.5 liter V-6.
  • I have a 1994 MB E320. Coolant low level light illuminates, even though coolant level is adequate and I have never had to add coolant. MB service rep mentioned that coolant level and washer fluid level are on the same circuit, so I topped off the washer reservoir (which was low) and the coolant level light hasn't illuminated since.

    Any experience with this? If so, any info on fixes?
  • acco20acco20 Posts: 208
    Seems no fix is needed...If that light comes on, one of those two fluids is low...I think?
  • I have a 2001 E320 with standard 11-spoke wheels. I apparently ran over a container of paint or other chemical and there are numerous ( approx. 1/4 of the rim) places where the original paint is damaged on one wheel. My question is: has anyone had their wheel(s) repainted? The cost of a new wheel was quoted at several prices between $320 and $680. Thanks.
  • 2ndmb2ndmb Posts: 72
    try wheelcollision.com
  • paulchiupaulchiu Posts: 378
    Cannot decide on the color, need help!

    My last 2 Benz had been brilliant silver/charcoal and I wanted to try something new on my 2004 E55 order.

    Thinking :

    1) Pewter
    2) Desert silver
    3) Obsidian Black

    All with Ash interior.

    My main concern is that the blacks seems to show scratches very easily. Am I wrong?

    Thanks for any ideas.
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    Once again, I recommend at least checking out the tectite grey and charcoal combination. My neighbor's has an E500 in that combination and it is beautiful.

    And yes, black shows everything. Just go to your local dealer and try to find a "pristine" 2+ year old black Mercedes and check it out in the sunlight. It will show swirl marks and other imperfections that you never would have noticed in your silver one.

    What are they projecting as a delivery date for a 2004 E55 and what is the price, if I might ask?
  • paulchiupaulchiu Posts: 378
    One dealer said as early as August, the other Sept/Oct. The earlier dealer said no mark ups if I place a deposit for it now, while the other cannot promise on the markups (over list, 74K).

    Funny thing (actually not that funny..) is that the second dealer has sold me 2 previous Benzes.

    So much for loyalty.
  • I just ordered an 03 - E5 and I am trying to add the multicontour seats, yet I have not been able to see one at the dealer, any one has an idea whether this are similar to sport seats found on BMWs?
    I have a 00 528 that I love but I am making the switch to MB, and I just would like to know if any one is owned a BMW in the past and made the switch, what is your overall impression about
  • General consensus on the mbworld.org forums is that the multicountour seats are a waste of money. The money would better be spent on the drive-dynamic seats or the active-ventilated seats. The standard seats are not bad at all though.
  • mbnut1mbnut1 Posts: 403
    I had my brother looked over a 2000 E320 for me today and asked that he look for ID stickers on the body panels like the fenders. He didn't think the car had been wrecked but niether he nor the salesman could find any other than the one on the truck behind the liscense plate. Should they be there on that vintage E class?
  • I had been told in the past that MB does not negotiate prices, but MB in Miami, FL sold me E500 for $2000 over invoice (about $2000 under MSRP) , which it may not be great but is something.
  • My 2003 E500 has a slight shudder when sitting in drive or park. The computer shows no malfunction. It's most noticeable when driving around town and not so much when sitting in the dealers garage.
    When I took it into the dealer, they told me that these engines didn't run that smooth in park. Said something about being due to the liquid filled motor mounts. Are there any other owners experiencing this? I'm wondering if I have bad motor mounts.
  • paulchiupaulchiu Posts: 378
    From time to time, I get some engine shake in my S500. Not all the time, and definitely "never" at the dealership either.

    Maybe it's due to the weather, as I experienced mine after the car was running cold in 10-20 degrees weather.
  • I have an 01E55 and like the multicountour seats alot, primarily for the adjustable side supports and occassional use of the thigh support. I hate lumbar supports, but my wife loves them. The heated seats are of course really nice but the ventilated seats I find of questionable value. They are helpful in really hot weather to keep your seat and back dry, but I find when they get almost cold, with the a.c. on, it's not such a nice feeling. man is not made for a cold [non-permissible content removed].
    The drive dynamic seats seem a bit too expensive, three thousand or so, for the value; I'd much rather have the feeling of the constant push on my side rather than a sudden inflation. I have not tried those seats, though.I did have a 740 isport with the comfort seats, and I could never deflate the lumbar portion enough to be comfortable; in fact the bmw seats in both the most recent5 and seven series just never felt"right" for me.And I've had four bmws starting with the 2002 and bavaria 3.0s. Those were great seats
  • paulchiupaulchiu Posts: 378
    My 2 cents on this issue. I have the ventilated seats on my 2001 S500. They are nice in the summer, yes. But not really necessary, as stewart said well, above. The A/C will do. Only after I played a pick up game and got really sweaty did the cooling/drying feature became an asset.

    The massaging seats are pretty worthless. You will not feel them after a month of use.

    If resell value is important, please note that expensive options are ventilated or massaging seats DOES not add much or any value to the car. Things like distronics and parktronics (other than having cool (or ugly) looking holes on the bumpers) adds maybe $100. ABC is the only thing of some residual value; say $500.

    What adds to the value of your Benz is sports package and designo editions. I found out all this after I sold my 2000 ML430 to the dealer.
  • merrelmerrel Posts: 45
    My 2003 E320 is now 5 months old, 8200 miles. No problems EXCEPT when you stop at a light with car in gear car shakes VIOLENTLY. I left car at MB dealer overnight, no malfunctions,no codes, dealer could not find anything wrong. Got a wash, wax, vacuum cleaned and thank you for coming in. Next day, car shakes all over again. Now what? To stop this 'seizure' you either throw car into neutral, or step on the cgas. Any suggestions, anyone? Could throttle body be clogged in 8200 miles? Could fuel line be clogged?
  • mbnut1mbnut1 Posts: 403
    I take it that you aren't able to reproduce it for the dealer?
  • jim256jim256 Posts: 14
    There is a known problem with '03 E500 and S500 motor mounts, normally exhibiting a slight side-to side engine movement when stopped and a diesel-type sound under hard acceleration. It's a quick and free replacement fix with a tech bulletin. Your dealer should know about it. The 320 engine has no common engine mount problem.
  • Can't decide which interior, ash or charcoal with the Pewter exterior for the 2003 E320. Never owned black interior, how does it hold up?
  • bigrobnhbigrobnh Posts: 114
    backing out this morning I noticed that the wood trim that runs from the instrument cluster to the passenger side vent is cracked completely thru in 3(!) places. Guess this car doesn't like the cold of NH that much. Considering the fact that the car is garaged and driven very few miles I can't believe how many issues I've had with it (2001 E320 4Matic).

    Later,
    BigRob.
  • The motor mounts sound like the likely culprit. The dealers head mechanic did acknowledge that's what causes the slight shudder when in park. I'll pursue that avenue for now.

    Thanks!
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