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Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedans

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  • aeggroupaeggroup Posts: 131
    Hi.
    I used to have BMW 5 series before my Jag S-type and it was the best car I've ever had in my life until I got E350. And I'm talking about old 5 series, not the current one. I started to hate BMW new look as soon as it appeared on a market, but my wife almost convinced me to take this car and I even went to the dealership and my already little desire to get this car disappeared as soon as I got inside of it. I think some competitor got a spy to BMW to destroy the legend of old model completely. This car interior reminds me something which cost 15K, so the case was closed :))
    I went to annual Lexus taste event and had a chance to drive GS300AWD, M35AWD and E-class.
    Lexus is very nice inside, but it still does not hold the road like Mercedes. I have MB already 3 days and every time I drive it - I like it more and more. MB problems ? hmm..you know...after I had Jaguar, which is famous for all kind of problems and I actually did not have any, I don't care what people say. If it brakes - I got SOS button and loaner car.
  • rockypaulrockypaul Posts: 104
    It appears that my dream sleeper E-550 4-Matic Wagon will not be produced; nor will a BlueTec be offered in that config.
    Damn shame.
  • esfesf Posts: 1,020
    The cars that drive most like the 5 Series are the A6 and M35X.

    The A6's interior is one of the industry's best, so I'd recommend it over the M35- and not just because I am an Audi fan, either.

    If you buy the Infiniti, please get the Sport Package! It looks fabulous. Same thing with the A6 and S-Line.

    I'm looking at the E350 4Matic for my wife, if you'd really like to know. She's not a fast driver, and the E is more of a luxury sedan than a sport sedan. However, if we get the E (the updated 2007 model), we will be getting the DC Airmatic suspension and the Sport model.
  • rockypaulrockypaul Posts: 104
    Have the electronic brakes been improved on the latest E models (2006)or are they still trouble prone and being recalled?

    Merc: you mentioned new steering for the '07 E as well as hydraulic brakes.

    Was the steering problematic like the brakes?

    I ask because I'm considering an "06 E-500 Wagon this week.
  • aeggroupaeggroup Posts: 131
    I have my 06 4matic for 3 weeks already. I have no problems with brakes and steering.
  • carnaughtcarnaught Posts: 1,599
    when the new '07's are due in?
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    Was the steering problematic like the brakes?

    The changes to the steering were to make it more direct, sportier, nothing problematic.

    M
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    First week of July.

    M
  • rockypaulrockypaul Posts: 104
    But, are the '06 E-class brakes better than prior years or put another way have the bugs been worked out?

    Thanks, again.
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    As far as I know they have been. You can check out MBworld.org in the E-Class section and see. There doesn't seem to be any complaints about the brakes anymore and people are buying leftover 06' E's left and right.

    M
  • edspider1edspider1 Posts: 195
    I my 06 is 2 months old and I was concerned about all the hoopla about the brakes. I have no complaints. I think they're perfect.
  • pvellozopvellozo Posts: 19
    i got a battery-alternator failure light on my 2002 e320 at 43000 miles. the problem was that the "poly belt' which runs the alternator, power steering etc had broken. the belt was replaced and it runs fine now. i was wondering if there might be some underlying problem with the car that caused the belt to fail so soon. any ideas? anyone with a similar problem? thanks
  • rockypaulrockypaul Posts: 104
    Dear Merc1,

    Your help was very much appreciated.
    Here's how it went down:

    Plenty of '06 E-500 wagons on the M-B locator as well as other E's;

    deal began with a $6600 discount off list and a good trade offer of $20000 on my BMW;

    decided to not take a full year's depreciation hit combined with the out-the-door depreciation;

    bad financially if I trade for the '09 or'10 model;

    Ordered an '07 E-350 4-Matic Wagon with premium pkg at 3.5% off MSRP sticker and $22k for my '02 BMW 330XI.

    Don't know the exact base price. But,since many things are now included in the base the premium pkg was all I needed to get the Nav system. I did have premium pkg price of around $2200, much less than in the past.

    Very happy and of course can't wait.
  • marsha7marsha7 Posts: 3,676
    E-class topic because of the level of activity, as the SL topic is almost dead...

    I am trying to find a website, and I believ one exists, that lists all Mercedes models back for almost 25 years, where they listed each model, and tha various exterior/interior colors it was available, along with the engines and various major option packages...

    I am trying to determine the colors available for 1996-1998 SL500, and any site for the Eclass will also list the SL class, too...

    Thanks for any help...
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    Well it sounds like you got exactly what you wanted, congrats and thanks. I see the 07's E's are how now, especially the E350s, with E550s going on sale 7/24.

    M
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    Hmmmm...that is a good one. Let me see. MBUSA has the past 16 years, but I'll look to see what else is out there.

    For the 1996-1997 SL500 look here. For 1999 MB switched V8s for the SL500. They went from a 5.0L DOHC design to a 5.0L SOHC design with slightly less power and torque. The R129's SL first facelift came in 1996, which is why I guess you picked that year to start? The R129 got another facelift for 1999 also, with both facelifts it was mainly interior and exterior trim changes along with some updated features.

    M
  • marsha7marsha7 Posts: 3,676
    I checked the mbusa site, and they only go back to 2000...unless I absolutely missed something, the CPO program, listing past years, stops at 2000...what did I miss???
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    Oh well the CPO program will only go back 7 model years so 2000 is the cutoff. Now they do have a 16 year model overview for general information.

    See Here

    M
  • pearlpearl Posts: 336
    If so, how do you like it?
  • esfesf Posts: 1,020
    Odd... I had a 2000 A6 2.7T, and didn't face a single problem, except for the headlight washer caps coming off!

    I guess I'm just lucky...

    The E350 4Matic I'm looking to buy for my wife is a similar proposition: sporty, luxurious, adequately quick, packed with features and stylish. However, we're not getting it until January.

    The options I'm considering (it's the '07 model on the MBusa website right now):
    Premium Package II
    Panoramic Sunroof
    Sport Package (which is oddly free of charge)
    Fold-down rear seats
    Built-in Bluetooth phone system with Voice Control
    Wood/Leather Steering Wheel
    Electronic Trunk Closer

    And the total: $63,575

    I'd be haggling... ;)

    '06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet • '04 Lexus RX 330 (soon to be replaced)
  • sfcharliesfcharlie Posts: 402
    We can move this over to appropriate forum, but saw that you have been driving '06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG. My daughter is looking at that and worries about some reports on Edmunds forums (that I've read) about DSG starting-from-stop and at low speeds. Can you say something about your experience. Would you now go for 3.2 quatrro A3 for 2007? Thanks for any feedback.
  • sfcharliesfcharlie Posts: 402
    "The cars that drive most like the 5 Series are the A6 and M35X.

    Why the M35X and not the regular M35, or maybe you weren't emphasizing the X model, since you recommend the Sport Package.

    I'm looking at the E350 4Matic for my wife, if you'd really like to know. She's not a fast driver, and the E is more of a luxury sedan than a sport sedan. However, if we get the E (the updated 2007 model), we will be getting the DC Airmatic suspension and the Sport model.

    Interesting synchronicity. My wife and I visited local MB dealer this morning. They had no literature on 2007s. The young salesman was very pleasant and went to look at inventory. Returned with a sales manager who was being extremely all-business serious: "We have one 2007 E350 sport model on its way this week for Executive Lease. You could see it while it's here. The 350s are few and far between."

    How do the Infiniti, Audi and MB "sport" lines differ/overalp in what they add to base model?
  • sfcharliesfcharlie Posts: 402
    Motor Trend (August, 2006) explained it this way, when describing changes for 2007 in the E-Class: "most noteworthy is the love from brake-by-wire to a hydraulic adaptive braking system borrowed from the S-Class. This simpler system provides most of the same benefits (hill-holding, rain-drying, etc.) at much lower cost. And in response to enthusiast's entreaties fro more road feel, the steering ratio is tightened up about 10 percent and the power assist curve is reshaped."
  • sfcharliesfcharlie Posts: 402
    That's most noteworthy is the MOVE (not,"love", although that might be love to an MB engineer) from brake-by-wire to a hydraulic adaptive braking system borrowed from the S-Class. This simpler system provides most of the same benefits (hill-holding, rain-drying, etc.) at much lower cost. And in response to enthusiast's entreaties for more road feel, the steering ratio is tightened up about 10 percent and the power assist curve is reshaped.
  • My wife just had and accident with our current car, she was hit and I think the car will be totalled by the insurance company. We are looking into buying a 1999 or 2000 E320. Is there enough of a difference or improvement to make the 2000 worth the extra 2 to 3k retail that I am seeing on autotrader? Also is there anywhere I can get .pdf's of old sale material regarding these years?
  • greasykid1greasykid1 Posts: 336
    Get the 2000
  • bgk99bgk99 Posts: 24
    Looking to buy the e-350 with Navi.

    Don't see many lease quotes here or in the lease thread. I also see that dealers are getting 5K back.

    Someone mentioned they were getting this car at $599 per month. I find that impossible. Is it?

    Any help would be appreciated
  • carnaughtcarnaught Posts: 1,599
    Looking to buy the e-350 with Navi.

    Don't see many lease quotes here or in the lease thread. I also see that dealers are getting 5K back.

    Someone mentioned they were getting this car at $599 per month. I find that impossible. Is it?


    I believe this is for the '06's.
  • I have viewed the photos on Edmunds of the 2007 E (550) class interior. I noticed that there is a small video screen extending from the console to the back seat. Is this part of the Navigation package? can it be used for DVD's for backseat passengers?
  • bgk99bgk99 Posts: 24
    This was e-mailed to me and I confirmed them when I went in to the dealership in Santa Monica, CA this evening.

    Also, the dealer "claims" that the 5,000 cash dealer incentive is only for the R-350/500 and that 3,000 applies to the ML - no cash back on the 2007.

    Residuals for the 2007 E-350

    24-27 months

    7,500 = 75%
    10k = 74%
    12k = 73%
    15k = 71%
    20k = 60%

    36-39 months

    7,500 = 63%
    10k = 61%
    12k = 60%
    15k = 58%
    20k = 53%

    Money Factors

    24-27 = .00245 (5.88)
    36-39 = .00210 (5.04)
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