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  • yamadaveyamadave Posts: 7
    I don't know how many 03's are left, but I bought a new 03 for 26K that had everything except nav, Sheer silver, Titanium edition. So it probably comes down to what the value of having a brand new car is to you. I got Nissan 3.9 financing also. I looked at used, but the prices seemed to high to justify it.
  • shaha90shaha90 Posts: 3
    One more thing... Nissan is also offering .9 % for 3 yrs or 1.9% for 5 yr financing.

    --tia
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    I'll echo kennyg5 and yamadave - I think you should be getting a discount to what a new car goes (went) for. At least 8-10%. After all, nearly 20% of the new car warranty is gone. And, unfortunately, you have to assume "demo" cars were not broken in with gentleness, especially if it's an SE 6-speed.

    So my "TMV" for this car would be about $3,500 under the new car invoice, since I believe $1,000 to $1,500 under invoice deals were pretty commonplace. Use Edmund's to price it up; I think they still have the 2003 invoice pricing on the "new car" tab above.

    On the other hand, if you love the car and there are no more new 2003's to choose from, you may not have a lot of bargaining power other than to walk away. But still try to get a fair deal - and that is not a 6,000 mile demo for marginally less than a brand new car, in my book.

    Good luck and report back.
  • shaha90shaha90 Posts: 3
    Thanks you all for the advice... I went ahead and bought it... Bascially I got it for about $3200 below invoice plus .9% financing... As Habitat eluded to, I really didn't have much to choose from..This was the only loaded SE avail. everything else was the basic stripped down version. I'm upgrading for a '95 SE. Now, I have to wait 'til Friday to get it (The dealer is having a person airbrush some of the scratched I found.

    One additional question -- This car has black leather. I've always had tan leather and I've heard that black leather gets hotted quicker. Is this true?

    thank you all
  • blh7068blh7068 Posts: 376
    FWIW,
    I bought an 02 demo,1700 mile Majestic Blue, frost leather about a year ago for 26500
    2.9%/60 mos.)- stickered for 29800. I thought that was a pretty good deal at the time. Likewise, also did not have much to choose from either.

    Regarding your leather question-

    Dark surfaces absorb more heat than lighter ones. In this case since it is leather- its going to get hot, regardless of color. I really think the sensible differences will be negligible.

    Kinda like being able to differentiate between an air temperature of 99 and 102...
    Just my .02 cents.

    Enjoy your ride!
  • Hello, I was quoted a price for and 04 maxima se w/auto, driver perferred package, and sunroof. MSRP is 31,940. TMV is 30,936. quoted price was 30,000. plus tax and tags. seems to be slightly over 3% of msrp. does this seem like a fair price.
    Thanks
  • berbelberbel Posts: 167
    My fellow posters.........

    Looks like I opened a "can of worms" with my post
    about "leaving the flock" to buy the Accord V-6.

    It appears that a lot of you agree with me about
    Nissan's corporate decision making.

    This was a really difficult decision for me to make. I look at my '00 SE and think what a great
    ride this has been and it still looks so appealing
    because (and I admit it) I'm anal about its care,
    both mechanically and cosmetically.

    I believe the Accord is a finely made automobile
    and my recent research has punctuated that thought
    with numerous extremely positive reviews and road
    tests......BUT, it's still not a Maxima.

    Re the complaint on option packages. What I meant
    was that no other manufacturer (of which I'm aware)
    makes you purchase four other packages in order to
    get the items in the fifth package that you want.
    Yes, others do group items into packages and you
    have the choice to purchase an individual option
    package but Nissan requires you to purchase, e.g.,
    package #1, #2 and #3 if you only want the items
    that are in package #4. Sorry to ramble on about
    this..........This policy is one of the primary
    factors that has increased the cost of the '04
    Max beyond what I'm willing to pay for this par-
    ticular car AND it appears that quite a few of you
    have very aptly said the same thing in different
    words!

    berbel
  • mirthmirth Posts: 1,212
    FYI - The '02-03 GXE's turning radius is 36' as opposed to the SE/GLE's 40' due to the smaller tires.
  • ocuihsocuihs Posts: 138
    the 6th generation (2004) Maximas are being built the first time in USA (Tennessee). we're thinking of getting the extended warranty for insurance/peace of mind.

    does anyone know a good source? the costs to the dealer?

    this is not neccessarily from your purchasing dealer as long as before the standard warranty expires. any nationwide Nissan dealer will do.
  • aggiedogaggiedog Posts: 238
    Just some more real world experience. I own an 02 Gray Lustre with black leather. I also own a Toyota 4Runner with oak(tan) leather. If you are not parked outside long there won't be much difference but if your car is in the sun all day, it will be a furnace for a while in the black leather. My 4Runner cools off in half the time that the Max does. Also someone earlier mentioned (search back) that after they removed the in cabin air filter, the ac worked much better. If possible, try to keep it out of the sun for long periods of time.
  • vu2000vu2000 Posts: 58
    The Maxima has gotten too expensive. A loaded maxima is costing $34,000+. This is ridiculous. I also think the new Maxima is not as nice looking inside compare to the previous generation Maximas(2000 - 2003). I just helped a friend buy a new car two months ago, she was asking about the 2004 Maxima. After going to the dealership and seeing the price of $34,000+ MSRP for the model she wanted, she immediately asked about the Honda Accord, and Toyota Camry. We went to Honda and was able to get her a new 2003 Honda Accord EX V6 for $23,650. The interior of the 2003 Accord EX V6 is beautiful. Exterior wise, the front is decent, but the tail lamps could be much better. The Accord coupe does have a nicer rear end compare to the sedan. I have owned Nissan Maxima, V6 Camry, and V6 Accord, these are all very reliable vehicles(no Gm/Ford/Chrysler junk). I think the way Nissan is going with pricing on the Maxima will further reduce the amount of people who will buy Maximas. The Altima is a very beautiful car from the outside, but the interior is too cheap to look at on a daily basis. I prefer my 98 Altima interior to the 2002-2003 Altima. Resale value on the 98 - 01 Altima stink however.
  • kyleknickskyleknicks Posts: 433
    first off, i want to say... i love my 00 maxima gle.... for what i paid for it...26k, it was alot of car for the money... now, you're looking at 32k (real world amt that someone would have to pay) for a similar equip 04 max?

    someone mentioned that they were offered 25K for a C320 base model... 32k for a max vs ..even if i had to pay 27k for a benz... i would pick the benz anyday of the week even if it's the base model... I'm a big fan of nissan, but the new maxima definitely turned me off.... the only nice product out of the nissan camp nowadays is the Z.. not to mention the G .... i might look into a 3series or a C230 or C320 when it time to replace my 2000 maxima in a few yrs...
  • prayerforprayerfor Posts: 161
    I wonder why more folks that are turned off by the '04 Maxima aren't mentioning the Mazda 6s as an alternative... both cars seem to have the same sort of sporting intentions, although the Mazda execution is more biased toward handling than power. This would seem to me to be a better option than many of the others mentioned here (Accord, Camry even Benz).
  • berbelberbel Posts: 167
    VU: You made some very good points. Incidentally,
    suggest to your lady friend that she add the lighted spoiler to her car. It changes the whole
    "character" of the rear end, which incidentally,
    looks like the backside of an Alpha Romeo 164.

    PRAYERFOR: The interior of the Accord, if you add
    the wood trim kit like I did, is much more refined
    than the 6s altho I subjectively think the 6s
    sheetmetal has the Accord beat. The Accord interior
    reminds me more of the refined interior of the
    00-03 Maximas and with the exception of the '04's,
    it will remain a car near and dear to my heart!!!

    berbel
  • '03 Maxima is a real bargain right now if you can find one. I bought mine, an '03 Maxima SE Sheer Silver automatic with moonroof for $22,400 back in April.

    I agree though, $34k is too much for a Maxima.
  • ybtybt Posts: 5
    Couple of month ago I bought 03 maxima gle. When I bought the car I test drove back to back both SE and GLE and didn't notice that much of a difference in a ride quality. Recently I started to notice weird behavior on a part of suspension, like some bumps it absorb well but some not a big ones the entire car bounces several times, or it hit the bump and car kind of dives and you have this noxious feeling. Is this normal? What tire pressure should I keep? The manual recommends 32psi, but I find it too soft, so I made it close to 40psi. It didn't make much of a difference.
    Also what I noticed recently slight transmission hesitation before switching to the 2nd or may be 3rd gear, it let engine rpm pass 3000 Is that normal? Any suggestions would be appreciated.
  • norbert444norbert444 Posts: 195
    Some time ago, we had a discussion about which gas grade to use. Since I went for a 4730-mile trip in the last two weeks, I had a chance to get some good data. On 14 refills of 10 to 14 gallons each and almost exclusively highway driving in mountain states with AC on, I have the following mpg observations:

    85-octane: 30.1, 27.6, 29.1, 26.7, 28.6. Average: 28.4 mpg.

    85.5 octane (in Great Falls, MT): 29.4 mpg.

    87-octane: 25.2, 27.1, 27.7, 28.3. Average: 27.1 mpg.

    88-octane: 31.6, 28.1. Average 29.85 mpg.

    91-octane: 27.2 mpg.

    The car performed flawlessly. I certainly did not notice any appreciable change in torque nor any pinging. Therefore it seems that any gasoline will do but I intend to refill with the premium once in a while anyway.
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    Is that a different octane rating system? Here in the DC area, premium is 93 octane (or 94 "ultra"), mid-grade is either 89 or 91 and regular is 87.

    I've never seen less than an 87 rating anywhere I've driven, including both coasts.
  • Its pretty clear from many forums (in comparison to other cars) that most Maxima owners (new and old versions) find the new model too expensive and with cheap interiors. In a nutshell DISSAPOINTMENT

    I think its a no-brainer...this car is not a smart purchase as it competes with others in its class. The hype of the new vehcle will wear off and at the end you will have a few fools who jumped to quick and ended up with a 34K dolar car that sucks in comparison to a G35, Bimmer and others.

    Nissan will have no option but to make serious changes, rebates, and initiatives to make this model a success in the long run. just an opinion from an opinionated fool! Who knows...will see.
  • cheerioboy26cheerioboy26 Posts: 412
    Octane ratings are lower in higher elevations. when I lived in west Texas (3000+ ft elev.) the levels were generally 86/88/90 (or 92) and I recall in Denver it was 85 IIRC.
  • kyleknickskyleknicks Posts: 433
    what hype? there wasn't any hype or excitement for the new maxima like there is when a redone of a model. i saw a new silver maxima on the road yesterday..what an ugly car... i laughed at the driver and wondered 'what a fool'
  • You are right...the only hype is when u walk into a dealership...sales hype. A salesman had the nerve to tell me that most people like the new maxima's interior better thatn the Z..

    If you evr see the interior of the Z you may agree that it is superior to the maxima's...almoust any interior is.
  • fastdriverfastdriver Posts: 2,273
    Long time TH member, but not in this forum. Seeking some help from 2004 Maxima owners. I can't seem to find an answer here. A friend of mine bought one a little over a month ago. He only has 400 miles on it. It has developed a clicking/ticking sound that seems to be coming from the screen area at the top of the console. The dealer has had it for weeks now and cannot find the source. They hear it, but can't locate/stop it.

    Has anyone else experienced this?

    Thanks.

    fastdriver
  • berbelberbel Posts: 167
    ybt: I'm not an expert but I know a few things and
    I respectfully suggest that you let some air out of your tires if you're running 40 pounds as you posted you are.

    If you think 32 is too "soft" then you can "safely"
    inflate to no more than 2-3 pounds over recommended
    tire pressure. Carrying 40 is going to wear the
    center tread off your tires very prematurely. More
    importantly, when you inflated to 40, you significantly DECREASED the tires "contact patch"
    What exacerbates this is the fact that the faster
    you drive, the more the contact patch is decreased.
    The more the contact patch is decreased, the more
    your "stopping distance" is increased. NOW, let's
    make this scenario WORSE. Let's ADD rainfall to the
    highway surface and let's watch what your car does
    when when you try an emergency stop or try to
    execute an emergency avoidance procedure. Let's
    speculate about how much more than normal your car
    will hydroplane with 40 pounds instead of 32. I
    don't want to be anywhere near you when this plays
    out 'cause it ain't going to be a pretty picture.

    Please drop your air pressure and NO, I don't sell
    tires for a living. I do however have some background in technical accident investigation and
    accident reconstruction.

    sailoverfuel/post 7012/For the reasons you mentioned and others as
    well, I'm now driving a different make vehicle. I'll be very surprised
    if Nissan doesn't have a bad sales report on the Max by the end of
    12 months.

    Take care/berbel
  • We will see the results soon. maybe it has a possible impact on the prices
  • m4d_cowm4d_cow Posts: 1,491
    Hi again,
    just an update i got from the local Nissan dealer. They now sell the '04 maxima for $100 over invoice +tax no matter what the invoice price is. Does that sound like a good deal?
    I know Maxima has completely cheap interior, but I think it looks cool (exterior, personal taste).
    The price is the only reason Im still considering this car. Cos if they're still selling it for MSRP i would go to the Audi dealer instead, which offered me '03 A6 quattro almost fully loaded for $40k+, that price includes WA tax, lisence and other fees, and delivery to home ( about 70 miles from dealer)
    Let me know if the Maxima's price is pretty decent. Thanx
  • norbert444norbert444 Posts: 195
    85-octane gas is sold all over the mountain states (WY, CO, UT, MT, SD) which I just visited. There, the grades are typically 85/88/91 octane. As you go into lower elevations, the mix changes to 87/89/91. Only once I have seen an 85.5/88/91 combination.

    The manual actually talks about the 85-octane being OK for you Maxima in mountain states. The caution, of course, is not to gas up on 85-octane for a trip to a lower elevation. Otherwise, 85-octane works just fine.
  • morphx22morphx22 Posts: 5
    http://www.getauto.com/autolinks_cardetail.html?x_dealer_id=AADK9- - &vinNum=JN1CA31D3YT506271

    it costs 15k and my dad and i got it down to 13700 or something around there (not including taxes or anything). What do you all think?

    I would rather have a smaller car, but I dont know what else is out there that isnt very expensive with a sunroof/spoiler on it. And is the non-bose speakers good? (compared to my 1985 oldsmobile regency 98 and I have a JVC mp3 player to replace their cd-player)

    Or there is a Jetta with like 24k miles on it and i got them to add a sunroof for a total of 14k (not including taxes and stuff)

    Thanks
  • boneslvboneslv Posts: 8
    That sounds like a great deal for a 04. I talked about the price of our 04 in post 6972.

    Fastdriver I have not experienced any clicking/ticking at the top of console, that sucks I hope they fix it.

    Wow, sailoverfuel and kyleknick what a generalization of intellect of us 04 buyers. I had looked at all the other cars people have been talking about on this board and the new Maxima filled my needs. Obviously, I believe the car is great inside and out and believe that the model you both drive is one of the most boring and bland styled cars out there and could question your intellect :). However, that is my opinion and you have yours and neither of us are going to convince the other. If it was not for this model change I would have not bought another Maxima.

    I believe Nissan has finally designed some excitement into the Maxima (look at the discussion it has generated) and of course others will disagree. The previous models were so bland people would not notice them at least now the car is turning heads if you like it our not. Perhaps it is because it is so new and has nothing to do with the design. Hopefully it will help increase the declining Maxima sales. However, sailoverfuel you are right and we will see soon what type of change this will bring.
  • maxamillion1maxamillion1 Posts: 1,467
    But the pricing is outrageous...I mean the base prices don't seem so bad...but when you think about all the stuff that is now optional that was ONCE standard...the new Maxima ain't a bargin no more.

    Think about it...in order to get Xenons (which USED to be standard on the BASE GXE)you have to get the VERY expensive Driver Preferred Pkg...no not the Sensory pkg...but the Driver Preferred pkg.

    That is RIDICULOUS...you can get a darn Altima 3.5SE with the Sports Plus Pkg. and get Xenons.

    Also, I don't see the benefit of the Skyview...it might look nice inside the car, but on the outside it's extremely ugly and takes away from the looks of the car...Nissan should have not offered it AT ALL...

    Futhermore...the interior materials (which are WAY WAY WAY better than the Altima) still look cheap looking...and the gauges inside the car aren't as good as the ones from the previous Maxima

    For Nissan to try and move the Maxima upscale...interior material should have been BETTER than the previous generation...but it is worse.

    The cloth on the doors is nice...but really...leather SHOULD have been used on models with leather.

    I like the rear of the car, and the sides look nice to but the front is UGLY...not just the grille...the lights are ugly and the lower panel looks retarded to...it looks like a smiling dog

    While I would consider a basic SE 6spd with Cloth and sunroof or a Basic SL with the Sunroof...the optional pkgs. make the price OUTRAGEOUS...and not worthy of the cost.

    What should have happened is simple...

    The Altima should have came out (like it did) and it should have had a better interior to compete with the class....

    Later the Maxima should have come out, looking like it looks...but without the toothy grille and the dorky headlights...the interior should have been on Audi/Lexus level and the price for a fully loaded model should have not gotten any higher than $32K with every option....Xenons should be standard and the skyview needs to go IMO...but some may like it.

    The car is wonderful, style-wise...especially in Liquid Silver or the white color...but the car needs REFINEMENT big time.
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