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Happy New Year
I plan to buy 2009 Toyota Sienna LE FWD 7-Passenger Minivan, with only option: LE Extra Value Package #1, Includes right-hand power sliding door, left-hand door closer, rear hatch closer, 8-way power driver's seat, Homelink universal transceiver and overhead multi-information display.
The price before TTL is $ 23,300 which I got so far, is it good deal? if not, what the price should be for a good deal?
Great forum! any feedback is highly appreciated...
Happy New Year!
I picked up my new 09 XLE Sienna from the dealer on the new year's eve. Although, the car looks great the experience with the dealership was one of my worst.
I had several offers from my local dealers. The lowest offer was $32500 OTD. I took this offer and prsented to Tom Wood Toyota in Indianapolis, IN. I went Tom Wood hoping to be treated well as a repeat customer (I bought my 05 Highlander from them). The manager look at the offer and came back telling me that he can not beat this price and the lowest he can go is $32650 (OTD). However, he said that he going to make up for the $150 by giving me two free services and an extra headset. I agreed. Ofcourse, he got my signiture for the price and did not mentioned anything on the paper regarding 2 free services and a headset.
The day that I was picking up the car (he did not have the car and had to bring it from another dealer 170 miles away), instead of giving me the two coupons for free services, he gave me two coupons for free oil change. When I said no to the oil change, he got very nasty and acted like a jerk. Anyways, I got the car and the two free services in " I owe you form". Now looking at his I owe you form, which has my signiture I find there is a statement which says the service has to be done in 30 days of the date of purchase.
So discusted with the experience, that I decided not to call him and talk to him.
I will never go to Tom Wood Toyota again!
Tariq
Do you mind if I ask what you expected for the promise of "free services"? Two free oil changes sound like "free services" to me.
Thank you.
We were looking at the same car with a quote of $36,400 but got cold feet on the AWD due to all of the bad reviews. If you can forego the AWD, consider a loaded XLE. You can get virtually all of the same features in FWD for about $6,000 less.
The only things the XLE lacks compared to the Limited is memory seats, automatic wipers and laser cruise control. We didn't think that those were worth $4,000. We bought this car for $30,800.
In addition to the memory seats, automatic wipers and laser control as you have rightly mentioned
some of the standard featues on Limited in comparision to XLE are:
int day/night automatic rearview mirror
ext day/night automatic electrochromatic mirror, fold them with push of a button.
heated front seats
parking distance sensors
power sunroof
front fog lights
stability control ( not available on XLE)
High intensity discharge lights
daytime running lights
power folding third row (only in FWD)
17 inches alloy wheel.
If you are getting these features as a package with XLE then you can cut a great deal.
For people currently in the market, I think dynamic laser cruise control is a great feature mostly offered in new luxury cars. This is in addition to your regular cruise control. This feature is very helpful on the highways where the laser keeps the safe distance between you and the front car by matching the speed.
Good luck to all the future owners.
heated front seats
parking distance sensors
power sunroof
stability control (where did you see it isn't available? Mine has it)
daytime running lights
17 inches alloy wheels
You can double check on Edmunds, but with EVP#4, I believe that only the wheels were an additional option.
IMO, the day/night mirrors aren't necessary with the tinted rear window. The HID lights were available in an additional package, I think.
It's totally a matter of preference as to whether the missing tech features are worth the money. I have most of them on our other car, and think most are either a pain in the [non-permissible content removed] or gimmicky. But like I said, it's just my opinion.
I still would advise potential buyers to compare and contrast the Limited with the XLE before they buy, however. In the end, the "Limited" tag on the rear is the most expensive option of all.
With AWD all you have to do is take off the stock run flats and swap on regular tires, that's what we did. Carry a spare in the rear well of the van on long trips.
AW 17" Aluminum Wheels
LF Fog lamps w/Day Time Running Lights and Windshield Wiper De-icer
CF Floor Mats/Door Sill Protector
TO Tow Prep Package
Best offer so far is $31,000 + TTL
I guess I felt pretty good about the offer until I reviewed the dealer invoice and noticed all these additional fees. When added up they total just under $2,000. It seems to me that that is an awful big profit. I feel like there should be more give on the dealer's part.
Destination Charge $745
Gasoline $16
Dealer Holdback $595
Dealer Advertising $ 345
Financial Reserve $297
The advertising fee apparently is charged by Toyota corporate (during Toyotathons) and not kept by the dealer.
I believe their profit margin is represented by the holdback and financial reserve only. Of course, this is gross profit and does not take into account the overhead of operating the dealership and keeping dozens or hundreds of cars in stock.
If you can get a quote of a few hundred below invoice, I think you are doing extremely well. Any lower and they wouldn't be making anything.
I paid 30,800 for the exact car you're referring to, but w/o the LF package, so it looks like a good deal.
I am usually able to get another hundred or two off just by telling the sales manager directly that I will by the car right now for my final price. Their biggest fear is that you'll take their best cost and walk to use it as leverage against another dealer.
Struggling with the offers I've been receiving to date. It seems that either I'n getting a fair, not great, deal or I'm getting a very bad one depending on what the actual dealer invoice is for the Sienna I'm looking at. Any input would be very appreciated. This what I'm considering:
2009 Toyota Sienna 2WD
Trim XLE
Manufacturer Code 5346
Base Invoice $25,563
Options
AW 17" Aluminum Wheels $104
LF Fog lamps w/Day Time Running Lights and Windshield Wiper De-icer $144
CF Floor Mats/Door Sill Protector $163
TO Tow Prep Package $176
Equipment Packages
QN XLE Extra Value Package #4 $3,312
Total Options and Packages $3,899
Total Invoice Including Options and Packages $29,462
Fees:
Destination Charge $745
Gasoline $16
Dealer Holdback $595
Dealer Advertising $345
Financial Reserve $297
Total Fees $1,998
Total Invoice Including Fees $31,460
Dealer's Best Offer so far: $31,000 + TTL
Depending on what you read all the fees seem to be everything from BS to negotiable to legit. Again, thanks for any insight you could provide.
Southern Califorina
I paid in cash and got 1500 cash back
Is it worthwhile to keep the 885 Money back warranty?
Also, found a deal at frys for 599 + 150 install for a clariion in-dash receiver with navigation gps and hook up for camera (200 with install). Is this something that I
should consider or are there any toyoya warranty issues with this?
-jumroo
Remember its a buyer market. You got the money, they want the money. Many have the cars!! Keep the pressure on!!!
when you buy 09 Sienna, do you consider the shippind data, which indictes when the dealer received this car from Toyota.
there are two options for the exact same car , the first one is: ~ 20 mi mileage, but dealer received it on 07/2008, second is: ~ 90 mi mileage, dealer received on 10/2008.
which one should I choose? if the shipping data should not be considered when buying a new car? thanks a lot!
I have the option to take additional incentives from Toyota if they become available in January 2009 (without giving up the 0% or $1500 rebate from "Toyotathon").
2009 XLE AWD Limited EVP #2
Dynamic Laser Cruise Control
High Intensity Discharge (HID) Headlamps
Daytime Running Lights
Towing Prep Option: 3,500-lb Towing
Carpet Floor Mats/Door Sill Protector
I had a lower quote of $36,000 from Wilde Toyota in Wisconsin, which I rejected in favor of working with a local salesperson.
In hindsight, I might have focused harder on an XLE AWD EVP#4. . . .
Thanks for all your help and posts/feedback. Good luck out there!
I thought the Ltd only had 2 pkg choices.
I made my purchase from San Jose, for XLE + EVP4, out of door price 33900 everything included. Since CA charge 8.25% tax, your price probably will be lower than mine. Good luck.
I have been searching for this car for several weeks, and the best offer I received was for MSRP $34,950, with a purchase price of $30,800 + TTL, with special financing (2.9% over 5 years).
I did not bite, because I still have two months remaining on my existing lease, and feel I can afford the gamble. If needed, I an open to extending my lease by a few months.
Does anyone know what the current incentives are? Or, if anyone followed the numbers in the past couple of years, and can predict what the numbers might look like, in Mar-Apr timeframe?
Any thoughts, suggestions??? Thanks.
We are trying to buy a 2009 LE with option #1 in Buffalo, NY area. Went to see 2 dealerships, both gave MSRP $27404. The final price for the first dealership was $25200 (excluding TTL and rebates). The second one (Fuccillo toyota) insisted on the MSRP price and when we offered $23000 and waited for a counter offer the salesman told us no deal and asked us to leave. How rude!!! I saw some posts on this forum mentioned they got the same model for around $23000 so I don't think that it was unreasonable for me to start from.
Any thoughts, suggestions? Thank you!
Palm Beach County, FL
$26,275+TT
So heres the deal:
XLE with: 17" alloy wheels, Fog lights w/daytime running lights, XVP #1, Carpet/Floor mats, + Dest = $28,897.00 price
The dealer added CA sales tax, $199 for "Cash price vehicle" which I didnt catch until later-(watch out for this trick if you are paying cash), and $83 for document prep. Total cash price of $31,224. Adding CA state lic, reg and tire fees of $282, the total was $31,506, before the $1500 rebate, for a real, final total of $30,006 out the door.
Now, what you need to know is that until 2/2/2008, in addition to the customer rebates on select models, Toyota is offering cash incentives to dealers, at least in the N Cal area in the following amounts:
Avalon $500, Solara, $500, RAV4 $1500, Sienna $2000, Tacoma $2000. The later two are called out as being in the "Final Month" on the paperwork I saw at the dealership. This presumable explains the large "Dealership savings" numbers shown in recent newspaper ads for the teaser vehicles. So, if you have the time to bargain, below invoice is definitely doable before 2/2/2009!
Good luck.!!!
w/$1000 rebate: $35,400.00
How did I do?
I live in Nor California. Best price have been able to get so far is 30090 + tax
Is that a good price.
Any shopping tips appreciated.
I am negotiating for an XLE Limited AWD with package 2 and HID lights/laser
cruise control. Essentially, everything. Without pushing hard, I have two
offers, one at invoice + 200 and the other at invoice + 1000.
(By invoice I mean published invoice price, minus the current $1500 rebate.)
Is this good enough or should I persist?
Thanks!
Luigi
P.S. The current offers are from Toyota in Oakland (the new one,
near the airport) and in Davis.
I will most likely be purchasing the Sienna Limited with AWD and all options this weekend. The MSRP is 41,500 for this car at two dealerships. Do you think 36,000 after the $1500 off incentive is a reasonable price to expect to pay? It's right around the TMV on Edmund's. Also can you negotiate with the financing department over the interest rate? I have good credit. Thanks for the help, I feel like I'm preparing for battle.
However, we decided to go with a loaded XLE, since it was $6,000 less. We didn't think that the AWD was worth an extra 6K, especially with the poor reviews of the run-flat tires and lack of a spare.
The only other features that the Limited has are laser cruise (we have this on our Infiniti and both my wife and I dislike it), memory seats, and automatic wipers. Again, not worth $6K to us.
If saving money is really your goal, my advice is to weigh the options between the two and decide if the Limited is really worth it to you.
I looking for a 2009 toyota Sienna LE AWD w/package #2 with seven or eight seater, but I dont know how much would it be the cheapest. I dont understand all these car companies complain about sales plunges but they are not doing to induce customers buy a bit cheaper.
Any of you guys have any idea how much would be the fair price for this cofiguration?
I looking for a 2009 toyota Sienna LE FWD w/package #2 with seven or eight seater, but I dont know how much would it be the cheapest. I dont understand all these car companies complain about sales plunges but they are not doing to induce customers buy a bit cheaper.
Any of you guys have any idea how much would be the fair price for this cofiguration?
thanks for the recommendation, I am in new jersey,cherry hill.Is there any good dealers over here?