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What do you think about 2011 model? Is it worth to wait?
Thanks
Thanks a lot
What model are you buying? Price range?
The 2011 LE will get a standard backup cam plus a power liftgate. To me that makes it worth waiting for. You'll get XLE features at an LE price.
Of course let's see about pricing, you may end up paying XLE money. That makes it a tough call.
If 3rd gen features are very good, then the chances of dropping onn 2nd gen prices may be more.........I would wait until next month and decide.
That's a mid $25k van now. Not sure but the new LE may cost $27k (*guesstimate*), but if you're getting the backup cam and the power hatch, it is arguably worth it.
You may even recover most of that $2000 when you sell it.
I think I'd wait.
I waited back in 2007 to get the 3.5l engine. 2006 models had the 3.3l engine and $2000 cash back. I waited until the 2007 got a $750 rebate.
So I paid $1250 more, but I got the engine I wanted, with a lot more HP, plus down the road the resale should be better, so I'll get some of it back.
To me the engine was worth it.
I'm certain about a backup cam and 3-zone climate control on the LE.
Let me Google it...
Not much luck there either. Maybe it was just wishful thinking, because it's something I wish mine had?
Can anyone else help? Is a power tailgate an option on the 2011 LE (options packages may not even be finalized yet).
The LE V6 model is upgraded with even more features including dual power-sliding
doors and power rear door, a power driver seat with power lumbar support, electrochromatic
rearview mirror with Homelink™, backup camera, rear window sunshades, AM/FM/MP3 CD
player, integrated XM® satellite radio (subscription required), auxiliary audio jack, USB port with
iPod® connectivity, and hands-free phone capability and music streaming via Bluetooth®
wireless technology, and steering wheel audio controls. These features can be added to the
four-cylinder model as a package.
Just found this at Toyota.com, I guess they decided to take away the power rear door feature from the LE. :mad:
I hope they do.
OTOH, they may not sell many XLEs if the LE has all those goodies.
> 2010..No comparison really atleast in MHO. Maybe it will be 2k more expensive
> but definitely worth it--newer model,more features,better resale value,more
> standard safety options...
I cannot agree.
http://pressroom.toyota.com/pr/tms/toyota/toyota-announces-pricing-for-all-15016- 0.aspx?ncid=12068
2011 LE V6 8-passenger 5 Van 6AT MSRP = $ 28,900
2010 LE 8-passenger EVP#2 + CF MSRP = $26,980
2010 is selling at ot under invoice right now, 2011 most likely will be selling closer to MSRP if not over MSRP.
I was able to get in Dec 2010 LE EVP#2 + CF for $25200 minus incentives (0% APR for 36 months and $500 bonus cash). Invoice price is $25257 according to Edmunds, $25742 at carsdirect and I saw something like $25863 at dealer's computer. Lower price also means lower insurance and taxes. We are talking about at least $4-5K difference here. Well, there are no incentives in my region anymore for 2010.
True, there are a few nice additions and changes to 2011 - backup camera, power rear door, 6 speed transmission, knee airbag, active headrests. There are also a few things a don't like in 2011 - small Odyssey-like middle seat (the main reason why I did not buy Odyssey), new climate controls, etc
Interior dimensions also don't look really good, especially leg room:
http://pressroom.toyota.com/pr/tms/toyota/document/2011_Sienna_Prelim_Product_In- fo.pdf?ncid=12068
We have yet to see new Sianna's crash test results. I would expect it to be safer, but not too much.
Then we should see a realistic $2-3,000 price difference, which is fair given the extra content.
The outgoing model will be a bargain when the 2011s arrive.
His response was simple, wait for the 2011.
> prices will drop $2-3 grand or so (just a guess).
Economy is improving, at least from car maker's standpoint.
6-7 months ago I could buy the same Sienna as I bought in Dec for $1-2K less.
I was just too late when I was ready to buy, there were no 2009 in stock left.
I bet we see $700 off MSRP in the first week. There's just not enough customers willing to pay full price.
> recession. Plus there are no jobs.
No, not just from stimulus.
First half of 2009 car makers were trimming inventories and cutting production.
They really cut supply to match weak demand so now they don't have to discount prices that much. Many people (like me) were postponing their purchases waiting for better deals.
> I bet we see $700 off MSRP in the first week. There's just not enough customers
> willing to pay full price.
This really depends on supply. More popular trims (LE) might see smaller discounts to MSRP.
I also got a quote from a dealership 200 miles away in the atlanta area that was 23311, otd 24800, but decided not to make the drive for the $300 bucks.
I got the 23900 price by using autobrag, the 23311 price by using the american express service through zag.
My dealer offered 23800 as a base price, but when I include every thing it is close to 26K.
They did not have any issues using one of their production slots to order one of these for me at the discounted price. My only complaint is that Toyota doesn't allow you to add any options to the vehicle like BMW or other manufacturers allow you to do before the vehicle is built. The dealer must find one in production queue that has the options (or close enough to it) that you want and then can change the color, but that's it. We wanted the laser or radar controlled cruise control option, but there were no Limited AWD models for the next 6 weeks in the production queue for any Midwest dealerships that had that option. So you have to settle.
There are two Costco Toyota Auto Program Dealers in my area. I used Jay Wolfe Toyota of West County since they are closer to my house. I'm not sure what the markup is from the other Costco dealer.
As an FYI, The dealership is also a Zag.com dealership (American Express/USAA/Overstock.com) auto buying program dealer. The sales manager said that his Costco auto buying program price is lower than the other programs because Costco doesn't really allow any dealership to go much over $500-$700 over the invoice or they start balking or threatening to remove them as a preferred dealer.
Cosrtco price:
2010 LE with EVP#2 - $24750 (direct from other delaer quote $23700)
2011 - $29320
Looks like is costco is NOT competetive at all the places
Also, the posts for 2010 pricing is below invoice, is that right? I tried the AmEx from Zag.com and I did not come anywhere near that price (in KC area).
Any suggestions on how to get the best price and what pricing will be? I am in Southern California. Please post your prices quoted/paid as info becomes available! Thanks in advance for any help. I really want and need this van
I'm guessing I need the XLE, but I can't find the options and pricing anywhere online (anyone know where I can). I really don't want the big screen entertainment stuff, but I'm afraid it will get bundled with nav.
Also does anyone know anything about the suppossed new easy to clean surface on the LE. My reason for leather is that it takes less of a beating with young kids.
Anyone pre-ordering in the bay area know what sort of deal I can get? I'm hoping for about 500-1K over invoice but am guessing that might be optimistic.
$46k is pushing it, though. Was it one of those cars that dealers load up with every accessory in the book just to show off what's available?
Those Costco prices seem good, BTW. $500 over invoice already?
I also have another quote for LE 8 passenger with package #2 for 24,678 which I need to add DVD. Please tell me what you would do. :confuse:
It all depends on whether you're comfortable going to an aftermarket shop to perform the install.
I think Best Buy sells and installs these.
I am looking at 2007 limited AWD's and trying to see what a realistic price is for them. KBB list certified pre-owned at $29K, and private party at $26K.
Can I get a dealer to go 3-4K under asking price on CPO? I am not sure what the normal markup is.
Just kidding. :shades:
A few Lexus models have it, not sure if any other Yodas do, though.
But must say I love these comfy plushy boats-- Camry and GX
Some of the competitors drove better, but Lexus knows their customers want pampering, and you can't blame 'em for it.
I want to test drive a '10 Sienna to make sure it is what I want (obviously) and maybe compare it to an '11 if they have one. But, if I go to the closest dealership to do that, won't I have to give the salesman my name, license, first born, etc? If so, then if I decide I want a Sienna and want to deal with that dealership, can I still go thru the internet manager using e-mail? Won't that original salesman claim me as his customer?
Sorry, I am just confused. I completely loathe having to go into the dealership and deal with the salesmen face to face, but I need to drive the car before I buy it. How do I then make it an internet transaction?
Thanks for looking!