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If you drive the LS version with all the goodies, 3800 Series II engine, sport suspension, better tires and quick ratio steering, I am sure your overall impressions would quckly change about this car.
A rental is not a 100% accurate picture about a car. The transmission on my new '01 Impala LS (Same exact unit as Regal LS) is one of the smoothest ever, period!. So that rental probably had some tranny problems in need of immediate attention.
I really like the Regal specially the GS model, But I enjoy my Impala LS even more.
Cheers!
Wanna race? GS VS CL-S!!! LOL................
fastdriver
LOL.................. Me either!
fastdriver
LOL... The CL-S has a 5-speed Sport Shift transmission.
fastdriver
Take Care
Who cares anyway. As long as they run ok and aren't at the dealer for repairs every 2 weeks. I don't race anyway- never did, even when I had that 1963 Chrysler 300 with 360HP many moons ago!
fastdriver
Enjoy your machine!
I DOUBT it! I don't treat my cars that way. Besides, I hate to spend ANY money on them during the lease for things like tires, brakes etc.- just normal maintenance items only.
fastdriver
Weight: Even
HP: TL has 20 more but at 1000 rpm higher
Torque: GS has 50 more ft lbs at about same RPM
Transmission: TL has 5 speed, GS 4.
Which one should be faster? I would guess that it is close, depending a lot on the individual car.
Of course, one could change the SC pulley on the Buick :-). Not recommended at sea level of course, but at 5000 ft above sea level....
Why can't these cars be had with a manual shift? If only the current gen Maxima looked nicer. If they do offer it next year with the 260 HP 3.5 liter with a stick, I might say bye bye to the Regal at the end of the lease.
Tell ya though a Maxima with the 260HP engine, stick would be tempting.....
I'm considering taking it to a dealer, but would be interested in hearing if anyone knows the cause/fix for the problem.
Thanks
The solution is an auto with performance manual override, but too costly. Therefore, the only solution for the Regal is a shift kit. A tuned shift kit would negate any advantage of a competitor's stick, but would definitely change the character of drivability.
Leo
As well as I remember what was reported, dealers are replacing the whole climate control unit under warranty. Very expensive solution: the unit costs $600(?). After warranty is expired, some dealers are replacing only the display itself. Less expensive: $100(?) or so.
Concerning maintenance, I assume you are refering to the supercharger. The only maintenance required is the periodic checking of the lubrication fluid. All other maintenance as a normal aspirated 3800.
As well as I remember the manual, no unusual maintenance requirements. The supercharger oil level must checked and, if necessary, the special oil added every 30,000 miles (the usual time of big service). Preferably by a skilled mechanic, at dealership.
There is talk in the acura-cl topic that there will be a 6-speed manual for the CL-S next year. Don't know how true it is. Give me an automatic anyday. Who wants to keep shifting unless you're 16 years old? Not me!
fastdriver
hehehe
BTW, I think you should race fastdriver, but you should switch cars. That would really make it interesting!
Looks like a sweet car - pleasant styling that won't grate on anyone but may be accused of still being too conservative to bring in additional 'young' buyers. I wonder if the wheelbase is stretched - could be if it is placed on the new 'midluxe' platform.
Ken
The supercharged Regal GS is electronically limited to a top speed of 108 m.p.h., a function of the speed rating of its tires.
But with Oldsmobile's Autobahn package, which includes tires with a higher speed rating, the Intrigue (no supercharged engine available) is capable of 124 m.p.h. before the electronic governor shuts you down.
Do they not think people buying a supercharged car would be the ones prefering the higher speed governer? and whats with the tires anyway, I hope they get with the program.
thanks.
I had a 56 Buick Special with the portholes, don't need them in 2004!
How about most Europeans?
FWIW, its nice having an automatic after a long day at the office, but sometimes I just wish my GS had a stick. My previous car (Mustang GT) had a stick, and it was more fun to drive than the GS.
Granted, where I live we don't have any traffic jams. If I lived in a typical metropolis a stick would be an unlikely choice.
Unfortunately, this is not the case. I can't speak for Buick mechanics because I haven't had to visit them, but as far as Dodge mechanics are concerned, most owners in the Durango club have more knowledge. There are repeated stories about owners telling the service depts. what the problem is, how to fix it, and the TSB that reports it because the mechanics have no idea.
I had this same experience with Mitsubishi mechanics when I had many problems with a Conquest. They did sloppy work, forgot basic principles, and always overcharged. I wouldn't even let them change my oil now.
I do all my own work that my tool set supports, and for everything else I use a private mechanic that has always done excellent work at a reasonable price.
I didn't know we were talking about Europeans. Besides, if I had to pay $3-4.00 for a gallon of gas like they do in Europe, then I'd probably want stick shift too.
rcarboni-
It's MOST "5-STAR" Chrysler dealers who don't know what they're doing. At least that's the game they try to play.
fastdriver
Leo
... just thought it was interesting frank - my previous car was also a Mustang GT! Makes me wonder if there's a pattern here, or at least some common rationale(?). For me, the availability of the supercharger was a significant part of why I went with the GS - very reassuring that I wouldn't have to get TOO far away from the power I was used to in the ole 'stang!
Of course other factors including safety, comfort, and cost (I bought used), were the big factors intellectually, but only the power generates that emotional tie.
By the way, you wouldn't happen to own an '88 New Yorker too, would you?
BMW: I was amazed how dirty the cabin air filter was after only 15,000 miles.
http://www.alldata.com/TSB/07/000708FD.html
I didn't see anything about the S/C oil, then again, I don't have an overactive imagination either.
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I don't mind so much if Buick wants to be boring, so long as they improve the performance. If the power doesn't blow away most of the import sedans (as it does now), then the lower price loses all appeal.
Give me $100 + Million and a free Buick and you would have the first dog house on wheels.
Not to knock my Buick but I can tell you with Tigers money there are many more rides I would be in before my GS!
"There's no way these things should be wearing out so fast."
Mine wore out fairly fast too, at about 26K miles. Granted, I bought the car used and past warranty, but it was frustrating since this was only a month or so after purchase. The battery was worse though - it died on me just 2 DAYS after purchase - now that was disconcerting!