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2005 and Earlier Chevrolet Impala

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  • atbearatbear Posts: 322
    "They should offer the L67 or supercharger as an option on the Impala. That would make a world of difference especially above 40mph... on the highway."

    The Impala will get the L67 in 2004. And it'll make the most difference off the line, not on the highway. It's a roots blower which means instant torque, not highway breathing. The M90's a wall!
  • drivinisfundrivinisfun Posts: 372
    I see an interesting trend here as of late.....current Impala owners that like their cars but are looking to move on to something else...

    HVAN3: A Mercedes MB320 (Pretty lousy truck in my honest opinion, but that's another topic)

    B4Z: an used late 1990's Lexus LS400 (Lexus are good cars but they are far from being the best luxury cars on the road today...they are mainly isolating cushy mobiles).

    COOKIE01: (Remember her?) She is going towards a new Nissan Murano

    Me? I am getting a new 2004 MINI Cooper S for October '03 delivery!

    So GM, the writting is clearly on the wall...you are losing customers because you have failed to keep the Impala refreshed and interesting in the face of such formidable import competition...and...the 2004 Impala SS is a nice try but TOO LATE!!!!

    Why buy a 2004 Impala SS with the "old" 240HP Supercharged Series II engine, when you can get a new 2004 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP (Nicer looks, much superior interior design and materials, better handling, suspension, etc) with the 260HP Series III 3800 Supercharged engine for almost the same money???

    Chevy we love ya, but you need to wake up!!!!!!!
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Posts: 2,287
    Cookie bought a Mazda6.

    As for me, I am looking at either a Mazda6 or a 2004 Grand Prix GTP. I am NOT considering the 04 SS AT ALL. Less hp and torque for more money than the GTP? Why?
  • b4zb4z Posts: 3,372
    Can't think of another luxury car that is as reliable as the Lexus. Certainly not BMW or Mercedes.
  • b4zb4z Posts: 3,372
    Got the new Instrument panel and the caliper pin and shim kit installed today.

    The tachometer no longer makes noise. They set the
    odometer to 35,962 miles on the new gauge cluster. so I had 600 miles magically disappear.

    The pin kit has completely eliminated the rattling sound so I can now drive down the street without people on the sidewalk turning around an looking at me as I pass by.
    My dealer has a large service department and this is the first caliper pin kit that they have installed.
    I still have a little movement in the suspension parts on bumpy roads but no real noise.

    Thanks "sunsession."

    I guess GM has replaced a lot of ISS's and cradles unecessarily.
  • drivinisfundrivinisfun Posts: 372
    B4Z::: The Lexus is a great car, but I think they are aimed at a different market base than BMW's and MB's. I prefer the driver involvement and superior driving experience of a German car over the isolating driving experience of a more appliance like Japanese luxo sedan.

    But you can't go wrong with a LS400, that's for sure. I personally find the current LS430 sedan garish and repulsive looking. the LS400 was and continues to be what Lexus is all about.

    John:: So Cookie bought a Mazda 6...wow! good for her. Still this proves my point that GM fell asleep with the 'immediate' sucess of the Impala during its first years and let the car run stale with very little substantial upgrades, et al.

    I am sure you will be a happy camper on either GP or Mazda 6....how about the '04 GTO? Do you have to have 4 doors?
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Posts: 2,287
    Yep, I got to have four doors. Both my business needs and the fact I sometimes carry my elderly parents dictate that I have a four door sedan. Otherwise, I WOULD be interested in a GTO. I have had my eye on Holden for many, many years.
  • b4zb4z Posts: 3,372
    My parents are in their late 70's, my dad has had polio since he was 14 and has been on a walker for 8 years.
     
    I am also a Realtor so the type of car that I buy has to meet certain criteria.

    Plus there is no one in my family under 6' tall.

    There are not many vehicles out there that cover all those bases for 21K.

    In fact the Impala may be the only car with the amount of passenger and trunk space that I need.
  • The LS went out of warranty last week with only 8,000 miles on her. As you can see, my wife does not drive the LS that often. The other day when she returned I noticed something leaking. It was water and it looked like it was coming from the drivers side corner of the cradle. I jacked it up and traced it to the bottom of power brake booster where the 2 halves fit together. I think it is condensation caused by going from the warm garage into cold (northeast) weather.
    Has anyone else had this happen. The brakes work fine. I just wonder if this is a problem.
  • hobasilhobasil Posts: 7
    Hello everybody,

    I came across a 1999 ex-opp white Lumina for 5 thousand Canadian. It has the 3800II, 4t65e transmission, recaro seats, stiff suspension, H rated tires(max speed 130mph) and the odometer says 147k km (92k miles). After taking it for a drive last week I found no apparent flaws such as pulling to one side, engine whine or rough shift points. To my surprise when I check the dipstick for the automatic transmission fluid, it is showing bright pink fluids which indicates the fluid is fairly new.

    What advice would you have for this situation? The price is right and the car is in relatively good shape, I know it would be hard pressed to find a late model vehicle in the 5000 dollar (CDN) price range, and this one has the 3800II in it which is a big plus. I have always enjoy the power the 3800II outputs, and its smoothness and reliability. Anyways, I would like to take the car home next week unless somebody comes with a convincing reason for me not to.

    This is my first time car shopping, I would appreciate any suggestions and comments. Thanks in advance.

    Basil
  • b4zb4z Posts: 3,372
    bleed them. your car is not getting enough use and moisture is building up.
  • charts2charts2 Posts: 618
    And you still have 00038 miles left on your warranty!!
  • b4zb4z Posts: 3,372
    I wish. LOL.
    36,000 miles in 21 months!

    My next trip to the dealerwill be to have the roof strips painted and replaced and then all of the warranty work will be done.

    It's on my nickel from now on.
  • otto42otto42 Posts: 33
    I was quite satisfied with it up until the point that a Ford F150 stopped at an intersection directly in front of me. My front left hit his front right at about 40 mph and it crumpled the front end on that side just completely. His insurance paid for it, but the car was never the same, so I traded it for my 2002 Impala LS.

    The Lumina is a good car, never had any problems with it of any kind for 60k miles. Ran good, drove well, took the impact very well. Funny thing though, the passenger airbag inflated with nobody in the seat, and the force blew out the front windshield. Not totally out, but it basically destroyed that sucker. The driver airbag inflated as well, and that was no fun at all. Saved my [non-permissible content removed], admittedly, but still not pleasant.

    Some of the dash board bits were kind of cheap though.. the slide out plastic cup holder, while very cool, broke after extended usage (but I had it replaced it free of charge) and was also impossible to clean. The ashtray was poorly designed, the rails were sticky, and when I hit that Ford they broke entirely and the ashtray went flying off. The glove box door is kind of heavy for the mounts they used on it, and while it didn't break, it always looked like it was going to. The cloth seating seemed to be inferior cloth somehow, as it didn't clean properly using anything I've tried. Removing the dash to replace the radio was easy enough, but the speaker mount holes in the trunk were non-standard, so mounting new identically sized speakers took ingenuity. The factory speakers themselves are total garbage, I've still got them, and they are utterly worthless. The radio is fine, and had a fairly decent amp built into it, actually, as it gave good crisp sound once you replaced the crappy speakers. The trunk has those annoying L shaped curve mount things, so when you filled the trunk to the max you find that you cannot actually close it that way because they fold down into the trunk space itself.

    Other than these minor petty annoyance type of things, it worked fine. Drove very well. Handled good. A slight bit soft on cornering, but very good acceleration for such a heavy car.

    If you want to see what a Lumina hitting a Ford F150 looks like, go here. This is on my laptop on a cable modem, so if it's slow or not there at times, that's why.
  • The moisture is in the booster itself not the fluid so bleeding them would not help.(no brake fluid enters the booster) The brakes work fine.
  • colie74colie74 Posts: 42
    My impala is leaking in the trunk. Just had it's 3rd repair last weekend. It's from water coming up from underneath. My warrenty is up in June. If I can get it to leak twice more with one repair attempt in between, I can use the lemon law and get rid of it. Otherwise, I will be getting rid of it by June. Now I have the coolant leak!

    No brake problems since the steering shaft has been lube. Had vibration in steering wheel all the way down to the brakes.

    I also won't be buying another chevy period. Although my husbands 2001 camaro ss hasn't been in the shop yet!! Very happy with that car.

    As far as luxury vehicles go and what I can affored, I will go Infiniti G35, if I can't afford that, I'll go with the sister car, the altima. Very nice cars.

    BMW is just tooo small for the money. Going to miss that big back seat that was soo appealing with the impala in the first place. One of the only cars (in my price range) that can fit a car seat in the middle and two adults on each side comfortably. It's a great ride until I have to shell out my own money for all these problems after the warrenty is up.

    Sure has been interesting reading here. Hope there aren't as many problems with the imports!!!

    BTW, the Mazda 6 is a GREAT alternative. Neat car!!!
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Posts: 2,287
    You might want to check with an attorney on your state's lemon law. In no state that I am aware of would a leaky trunk invoke the lemon law. Usually defects have to be safety related in order for the lemon law to apply.

    You also may be stuck with arbitration in any event.
  • b4zb4z Posts: 3,372
    The older the car is the less likely they will buy it back.
    Usually once you get past the 2 year point you are out of luck.
  • rbb2rbb2 Posts: 70
    Has anyone noticed the engine sounds a bit noisy at startup? Ususally lasts for a few minutes and goes away. It appears to be on the drivers side and sounds like a grinding/growling type noise.
  • colie74colie74 Posts: 42
    Well the lemon law attorny said that it didn't have to be safety related. A safety related issue is a one repair attempt. Others like mine, are 4. So ya, they do get more leadway as far as trying to fix it. IMO, it may not be safty, but it surely is serious. I have MOLD growing back in the trunk now. Things that were back there have mold growing on them. The LL attorney just said he settled a case just like mine. Isn't rust going to be an issue as well?

    So at any rate, I am in contact with a LL attorney who said it is absolutely possible to use the lemon law. He seems pretty confident. Hey if it doesn't pan out, no biggy, but it is a least worth a try.

    And no it does not have to be only safety related. But no, you can't complain about bad radio reception and invoke the LL that way. :)

    We aren't talking about a little wetness back there either folks, we are talking about flooding!!!

    Nicole
  • drivinisfundrivinisfun Posts: 372
    Did they check your tailight rubber seals???

    Before filing for "Lemon Law" make sure that this has been verified to be OK. You could be in for a rough ride if you are not familiar with your State's lemon laws.

    Remember, attorneys can lie so be informed before allowing yourself to get lured into a costly uphill battle.

    What state are you in? Do you know what is the statue of limitations in terms of ownership months/mileage (Whichever comes first) to be able to seek relief under Lemon Law?

    In Florida, a leaking trunk does not qualify for Lemon Law.

    Do some research, that's all I am suggesting....
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    It might help to use the keyword search on the left side of the page to check out some of the TH discussions on lemon laws. I think most of them are archived, but they still contain lots of good information as well as useful links.
  • b4zb4z Posts: 3,372
    Mine has always been noisy when cold. Last for 30-45 seconds then idles down and noise goes away.
  • drivinisfundrivinisfun Posts: 372
    Man, this topic is really dead as of late!
  • colie74colie74 Posts: 42
    I am in California by the way. The attorney said I had until the warrenty is up. Which is in June. We did a pressure hose test over the weekend and it is leaking EVERYWHERE, the tail lights, the trunk plugs under the spare tire, toward the back opening of the trunk, all over. It's going for it's fourth repair attempt next weekend, then I will contact the LL attorney and see if we can go forward. The info I am reading said it doesn't have to ONLY be a safety issue. A leak in the trunk does grow mold and is unsafe in MY opinion, but doesn't mean it will fly. At least I got chevy to order me a new carpet kit and spare tire cover.

    I don't think this is fair at all. I can see in your posts, that you are coming across like I am being petty or that this won't fly with the lemon law, but why should I have to deal with a trunk full of water? It smells and grows mold, I have to take the spare tire out and get the water out every rain. I HATE this car. And now the coolant leak.

    Anyway, thanks for the words of cuation. I will read over the contract from the attorney and if I have to pay a truck load of money even if I don't win, well can't afford that anyways.

    But I am stuck, have you tried to trade in you Impala yet? I have, guess what they are offering for a 2000 (not even 3 years old yet) loaded LS with only 21K miles on it....7K. Yup, that's it. Wouldn't even pay off my loan of 9K. They don't want my car either!!! I am in tears that I got ripped off on this piece of crap. I will never buy chevy again, especially if they fight over taking my lemon back. Just pay off the loan is all I care about at this point. Just take it off my hands.

    Anyway, thanks again
    Nicole
  • drivinisfundrivinisfun Posts: 372
    On a trade at Carmax, I am being offered $13K for my 2001 Impala LS with 20K miles. The car is in pristine condition in and out...not a single ding, scratch, nothing...just perfect.

    I sincerely think that your trunk leaks are caused by 2 very serious problems:

    1) Car was involved in an accident prior to delivery (Yes there are dealers that still sell new cars with body repair damage)

    2) The car has some kind of fatal flaw in the structure welds or rubber seals.

    Have you run a Carfax.com VIN check on your own car? It is a $20K pop but I think if I were you I would take a closer look at the history of this car. If this car was ever in an accident, there is the likehood of a police report filed online, etc.

    I have never had any problems with the trunk of my car. Other family acquintances also own Impalas with absolutely no problems on them whatsoever either.

    You need to have a factory rep go over your car with a fine tooth comb.

    I am sorry to hear about all your problems and believe me, if I were in your shoes, I would also be very dissapointed about the car as well.

    Have you try taking it to a different Chevy dealer? As part of your Lemon Law process I think the manufacturer needs to fly someone from the factory to take a look at your car. That way they can determine whether the car has been in an accident or if this is indeed a fatal manufacturing defect. Either outcome calls for different legal actions.

    Best of luck and keep us posted.
  • b4zb4z Posts: 3,372
    Your problem is a new one on me. Historically any car that I own will have pretty much every problem reported on these internet threads. That is just my luck. I am hoping I never get the leaking trunk.
    I would think your car is worth more than 7K. is it an LS or a base?
    i would definiterly take it to another dealer.
  • colie74colie74 Posts: 42
    Thanks for the info, I am wondering at this point as well. I am leaning toward the defects in the structure welds and rubber seals. They tried re-weld a pinch weld that showed rust during one service trip and this time I made it leak with a hose and got water squirting up through the plugs under the spare tire, as well as other places. I called the attorney again and told them the law states 18K or 18 months limit, she said she checked and said, no we can still help. She said after the 4th attempt that I will have to meet with a factory rep and recreate the leaks for him and then we will go from there. So yes, a factory rep will be involved and it may shed light as to some info I don't already know, like you mentioned a defect or accident. I bought the car in June of 2000 and the sticker said it was built in May, so I can't imagine an accident unless it was from the factory to truck to bring it down to the dealer. I will run a check on carfax though, thanks.

    It is being purchased, no lease. So I was also stunned at 7K offer. I was at least thinking 10K trade in, 13K maybe on the street.

    So the lawyer knows all about this and still says she can help. I'll know in 2 weeks. I'm going on vacation next week, so it's going in the shop as soon as I get back. I'm wondering if I should even bother having them do the coolant leak at the same time. Don't want them to come back and say they didn't have time to deal with both. So I should stick with the water leak and not confuse them anymore.

    I'll keep you all posted, it sure does sound like a defect to me.

    Thanks
    Nicole
  • txguytxguy Posts: 57
    CarFax only reports those things required by law and public record. It does not report any information from insurance claims (a common belief). So a car involved in a serious wreck but not totalled and re titled as salvage will not show up on a CarFax report. If the insurance company totaled/bought the car, it would be re titled (if playing by the rules) as salvage. That would show up on the CarFax report. I have heard of insurance companies selling totalled cars to rebuilders with clean titles. That would only show up as an ownership change.

    A good body man can tell you by looking at wrench marks on body panel and hinge bolts if a car has had repairs.
  • drivinisfundrivinisfun Posts: 372
    Also keep in mind that if the car has sustained damage during transportation from the factory to the dealership, these incidents will also fail to show up in a complete Carfax report.

    It is not uncommon for brand new spanking and unregistered cars to receive damage during transportation or at the dealership. Some dealers are masters at covering up transport or dealer induced damage to the vehicle and then sell it as 'new' to unsuspecting customers. A good rule of thumb is to always inspect a new car prior to taking delivery with a fine tooth comb as much as feasible possible. Also a new vehicle should also be delivered and inspected under daylight conditions to make spotting imperfections, bad repairs and other potential coverups before signing on the dotted line.

    I suspect that Coleen's Impala must have sustained severe damage during transporation or at the dealer, resulting in a badly repaired trunk area and consequently a bad smelling and leaky trunk compartment. But there is also a chance that her car has a very unsual and rather bizarre manufacturing defect with the body welds. Remember that these cars are welded by robots, so the spot weld quality is precise to the milimeter and pretty consistent on each car being built.

    I wish the best of luck to Collen on her leaky trunk saga.
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