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I believe there is also a seperate forum for women's issues in town hall but it
rather bored me (more people arguing about the importance or non of colors
when looking for a car)
I would whole heartedly agree with mediumfry's assessment with a caveat. We also have Grand Am's with the 3.4L V6. They run real nice with that car/drivetrain combo. But if I were to extrapolate that to an Impala it would come up short. First and foremost I think some power ratings for the 3.4L V6 (GM) aren't accurate at 180hp with 205lbs torque. I believe the true rating for the engine is probably 175hp with around 180lbs of torque. In the 3,000lb Grand Am that is adequate for good performance. But in the larger 400 lbs heavier Impala I have reservations. The 3800 V6 is rated at a true 200hp with 220lbs of torque. This translates two ways. Better performance and longer drivetrain life because it moves the vehicle easier at lower rpms over the life of the engine. Accordingly if you are not one to occasionally push it a bit and if your driving needs are not particularly heavy then perhaps the 3.4L engine will suffice. But if you have the choice do yourself a favor and go with the 3800 V6 its more then worth the extra money.
My suggestion is spend the extra money for the 3800 V6 and you will have a car you can enjoy for a long time. I believe the 3400 has been improved for durability in 2001, but the 3800 is tried and true.
(for the base) but also smaller (car size and seating) I also really liked the
inside layout of the Imapala as well as the drive. The 1 year of OnStar with the
LS is nothing to sneeze at if your alone or need assist either. Do your shopping
and I think you'll soon be telling us you picked out a great new Impala!
BTW - in Canada the Impala has already replaced the Lumina. You can't buy a 2001 Lumina in Canada.
Nick01 - Welcome to the list! I bet your car and mine will travel down the production line together. They're built in Oshawa, Ontario. I'm trying to get a plant tour. You'll partially regret joining this list - the waiting is going to drive you nuts with all the positive input you'll get from the other listers! Don't start doubting your colour choice. I'm sure you went through a complicated (mostly emotional) process to come up with the colour choice. I know I did!
Brad
We have a driftwood metallic 2k. I would prefer white but it's the wifes car so it was her color choice.
A little over 34k miles on the car and 6k miles on the shim amterial TSB repair. No noise from the cradle mounts....yet (fingers crossed)
We are seeing many more Impalas out in our area south east Gilbert AZ area. A neighbor has a black LS. Their daughters drive like freaking mainiacs, theres gonna be a chat with mom & dad soon I think....... ((-;
crosley4 - where I live, the parents are the fast drivers in residential areas. And they all have small children. You'd think they'd know better! It's just a couple of people actually. My father has a lot of friends that moved to Prescott upon retirement. Is Prescott as hot as the rest of Arizona? Prescott seems to be a popular place to retire.
bdime - I've sat in a Taurus and Impala and the Impala was more comfortable. The Taurus seat felt a little strange - I think it may have had the lumbar support. If that's their regular seat, that may be a deciding factor.
I have never ever seen a Bronze Mist Metallic Impala. According to the brochure, the Bronze Mist is a 'late Availability' color. Has it been released? I would have loved to get this color but no one has it in South Florida and no one knows when it will be available...too bad.
Last year, the Impala had a funky color named Nightmist Aurburn Metallic which was 'rare' in the lineup. During the day it looked like a crossover between purplish (Under direct sunlight) and copper tones. At night it looked bright copper, really nice. During the day it looked aweful. Strange color. It was axed together with the light Driftwood Metallic and the Regal medium Blue which also was a somewhat unsual color scheme for 2001.
Remember this:: If your dealer sells you a Light Driftwood, Nightmist Auburn Metallic or Medium Regal Blue Impala, it is a 2000 model, not a 2001.
Teo - still don't have your 2001? I hope you're fully recovered by now from your unfortunate illness. Have you checked out the Bonneville column lately? It rocks! I was jealous of you guys over here but we seem to have our forum in the top 3 or 4 these days - great discussions. We'd love any inputs from you Impala cousins anytime you wish to cross the street to our side.
Jeffreyw1 - Hope you're feeling well too these days. Keep looking up, brother.
Best wishes to all
Ken
This should do it for stones - I have passed 23 kidney stones - have a collection too! Dairy products are the problem - too much calcium. Cranberry juice is good but not for diabetics like me - too much sugar in the juice. So I carry RX Tylenol 3 with me at all times for pain management. Treatment =lithotripsy: sound waves [not laser] blast stone in kidney - fragments pass within six months, mostly small enough without pain. I have had 5 lithotripsies - drugs put you out - but sometimes tou wake up and they give you more drugs. HOW DOES THIS RELATE TO IMPALAS? = I have had a few attacks while driving - very dangerous- the pain is excruciating - but you have to get to a hospital - the hard part is trying to find a parking spot! Thanks for reading.
For the past couple of weeks, I have been dealing with both GM and the Better Business Bureau regarding a repurchase of the car. It had been in for repair five times for the hesitation problem since Oct 2000.
One thing that I would like to do is commend both the GM and BBB workers for their courtesy and professionalism in handling this case. Everyone has been just great.
GM has agreed to repurchase the car with no obligation on my part to purchase a new car. I live in California so the lemon law requirements may be different than other states. Without any argument or offers back and forth, GM will give me the original purchase price, the sales tax, the license fees, the setup fees, and the finance charges that I have paid.
I will use the money to purchase a 2001 Impala LS. It would be nice if this were completed by April 2, 2001 because the new Impala has a $1000.00 rebate that ends on April 2nd. I guess that I should not be greedy.
With the repurchase, the new car will cost me about $4000.00 more than what I am getting back. This is mostly because of upgrade options that I want.
Check this page and you will be flabergasted.
I just wish this Impala wasn't so close to home!!!!!!!
http://www.torontopolice.on.ca/aroundtheservice/stories/stealthcar/index.html
Let me know what you think.
I'm new to the boards, but have been reading up on what everybody's had to say thus far. I've got a question about colors, which I'll get to, but I wanted to first ask about seating.
Does anyone know whether the bucket seats ride any higher or lower than bench seats? I realize that they're both adjustable in the up/down direction, but do either of them go lower than the other? I ask because I'm a tall guy, and I had a slight line-of-sight problem with the base Impala I test drove this weekend (bench seating). The sunroof control panel prevented me from moving the rear view mirror all the way up to the windshield line, effectively cutting off a large chunk of what I could see through. (When I usually get in a car, even with the seat fully down, my eyeballs are even with the mirror -- I sit really tall.)
My other question is about the two champagne-ish colors. My last 3 cars were Dark Blue, Black, and Dark Green, and all of them were difficult to keep clean. So, my Impala will be one of the light shades. I've ruled out white, and I'm leaning away from silver. Does anyone actually *have* a Bronzemist car who can relate their opinion regarding keeping it looking good? It looks very nice in the brochure, but it looks just dark enough to be troublesome, which would push me to the Sandrift.
I expect to be ordering in the next week or two, does anyone know the cutoff date for factory orders for the 01 model year?
Love these boards, and I hope to be a more frequent poster.
kenbuzz - I have the overhead console in my Impala which blocks a part of the upper view of the mirror but I can raise the mirror pretty much to the top. At first it was bothersome, but I have gotten used to it and don't really notice it anymore. I have only seen 2 Impalas in my area in the bronzemist (from a distance) and both were fairly clean-looking although the roads I was on were wet and sanded. The colour is a bit dark but I don't think it will be nearly as bad as say black or navy blue. Btw, they looked pretty good. Personally, I don't know if I could live with the colour for a long time. My Sandrift on the other hand is great as far as dirt goes. It's still terrible looking when dirty up close, but harder to tell from a distance.
jeffreyw1 - glad they've improved the kidney test using iodine. They give people that are allergic to iodine antihistamines before the test but I still declined.
I noticed that too that you seat higher in the Impala, and that,s a good thing.
00Impala, younger I did something similar, I sat down in my new car with a screwdriver in my back pocket. Ok that was only a Volare, with vinyl seat ...but the car was new, 3 days old, the screwdriver went through the backrest and come out from the side...... I damaged the seat,and I was lets say jammed on the seat ;-) couldn't move,this adventure cost me a pair of jeans too !!!
I never bought a Chrysler product after that !!!
Question: Did GM on their Buyback offer, deducted any offset mileage fees? If so, how much did they charge per mile?
If they didn't deduct the mileage costs, consider yourself extremely lucky!
I think you did magnificently and I am glad that GM/BBB responded to your claim quickly and efficiently.
Hope you have better luck with the new 2001 Impala LS. What colors/options do you have in mind?
Also, how is your old '00 Impala configured?
Again, congratulations!
PS: Don't let your guard down just yet. Follow up with GM until they make good on their buyback offer.
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Can you take some pics of the area that was damaged...I am sure most would be interested on seeing how the car performs in situations like this.
Again sorry for the mishap. Think about it, if it had been the Corvette it could have been worse (I think).
Teo: Regal blue color unusual? I'm biased of course but I think it's the best looking color of all. Sweetpolly would probably agree with me...
Male and female persuasion? I don't know about the rest of you but I didn't have to be persuaded to be male. I mean I wasn't really cognizant of my surroundings way back then but I'm sure there was no persuading to do.
I am very happy since GM decided to go ahead and do the trade-buyback deal. They demonstrated their commitment to keep me a happy customer, something that I strongly value. Scotsman is another prime example of such renewed attitude in part of GM to step up to the plate and make things right for its customers.
Sorry to hear about your seat covering mishap...ouch!
There was no damage. No split in the plastic, no break in the paint. So the car performed well. I felt a nasty bump from the rear. Not the whip-lash type but it did make me take up and notice, believe me. As I stated it was at low speed: 4-5mph. The Topaz hit my rear bumper on the graphite/black strip and the bumper appeared to react as it was designed to do in 5mph collisions. That is, not incur low-speed damage. There is a scuff on the graphite trim that I took out with a polishing compound. That's it, that's all. Minor event, thank goodness.
By the way, where are Night_owl and LRCobra?
hunter39 - With so many people moving to Prescott, I couldn't imagine retiring to a very hot climate but those temps don't sound bad. My dad had another friend retire to a town to the northeast of Prescott but don't remember the name. Once enough people retire there, it'll probably lose some of it's charm--no longer being a small town!
What have you decided in regards to the Impala vs. Taurus dilemma.
My last word of advice: Go with the Base 3.4L Impala, it is a far superior car to the Taurus.
I had a very bad share of past Ford ownership experiences. If you have had good luck with GM why go with the Blue Oval people?
The Taurus depreciates like a rock, has a very tainted reliability history and its mix of powertrains simply can't match what the General puts under the hood of the Impala.
You'll be happier with the Impala in the long run.
Also...lumbar support. My LS with bucket seats has it on the driver's side...I rarely use it, maybe only on long drives. I fold it out of the way and it never bothers me.
With that $1,000 rebate on some parts of the country, the Impala is even more tempting.
Ford, I don't think so.
Good luck anyway.
If I get a choice on colors, I like that Navy Blue. The Chevy place in the town where I live only had Sandrift and Bronzemist. I was in Mississippi today and that's where I saw the Navy Blue. It would be a hot color but I've been driving white cars for 20 years!
and as for like a rock that's the motto for my truck parts continue to fall onto the rocks...
stnel has to make up her own mind.
Stnel: you shouldn't go wrong with either.
sorry for jumping on Teo like this, but sometimes I think he earns a commission on every Impala sold! :>
I gotta throw in my two cents.
I got the sex comment 30 or 40 posts back. Pretty speechless on that one, and I never stop talking. ((-:
On O2 sensors, my experience is that O2 sensors do not fail. That is, there are bad ones everywhere, but something else failed first causing grossly wrong mixture and therefore fouling the sensor and rendering it useless. I traded a '86 Grand Am with 266,000 miles for my '01 Impala, and it NEVER needed an O2 sensor. I know, that's only one example, but I do believe it's rare to have an O2 sensor fail without provocation.
I've never seen so much talk about colors! I have a white minivan and I love the functionality of the color. Believe it or not, it doesn't look all that dirty until it's REALLY FILTHY. Anyway I went out intending to get a white Impala but when I saw my Torch Red LS, I never looked back. They say lookout for the cops. Well I don't speed so I guess I don't care. BTW that Toronto stealth car is AWESOME. I gotta get me one of those.
I am not sure if very basic 3.4L Impalas with manual front bench seats still have lumbar support added.
Okay, according to the 2001 Impala sales brochure that I have in front of me (page #34) the most basic seating arragement in the 3.4L Impala (manual front bench seats) DOESN'T HAVE ANY SORT OF LUMBAR SUPPORT!!."Seating: Cloth 60/40 split front bench seat with adjuster and manual recliner, plus fixed-back rear seat, standard on the Base 3.4L Impala sedan". So if the salesman tells you that ALL Impalas have lumbar support, he is simply lying as he is trying to sell you a car equipped with power seats and the lumbar support. You can only get the lumbar support if you purchase the power front seat on either bench or bucket arragements. Show to him page #34 in the sales brochure under "Standard features and Optional Equipment".
While you are at it, look me up on page #16 of the 2001 catalog.
Cheers!